Shahanga Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I haven't given up on Williams. Given his form for the Fury we were all expecting more, granted, but he's obviously found the move difficult. With strong competition for places in the forwards he has to work hard from here on in to get a run, which is a good thing. (Still suspect cutting his hair was the main problem though, ala Samson). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Cain Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Played well on Wednesday, give him some time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpy Posted January 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Played well on Wednesday, give him some time He has got 3 years, we'll see how that goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myki Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 was my favourite player for nqf... exciting to watch... was excited when heard we signed him... appears to have lost his touch looks out of favour and from what i saw wed looks out of shape also and at times sluggish and lazy. that said... hopefully he can return to some form soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scouser Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 (edited) was my favourite player for nqf... exciting to watch... was excited when heard we signed him... appears to have lost his touch looks out of favour and from what i saw wed looks out of shape also and at times sluggish and lazy. that said... hopefully he can return to some form soon Also have to agree with you here Myki Edited January 21, 2012 by Scouser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart Fanatic Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 This thread gained momentum tonight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulhollanddrive Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Have no confidence in him or Hoffman on the ball. Terra/Worm/Dugandzic/Babalj have a lot more quality in our front third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Sad but he played the worst game tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huzie Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 He will have all of feb to prove himself at right wing, duganzic has looked a bit sluggish in recent weeks so maybe it's not that bad a timing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthheart Posted January 21, 2012 Report Share Posted January 21, 2012 Shit thread, is shit. Barely given a chance since arriving here. Admittedly disappointing so far this season but Feb will be his month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Willing to give him time Edit: got no choice because he's here for 3 years ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 He has got 3 years, we'll see how that goes. Hes only got 3 if he performs whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy do you believe in throwing good money after bad that is why they laugh at our league overseas.So will he get moved after that and the new club can throw $130 000 at him and after he doesnt produce someone on the next forum will say we'll see how it goes.You seriously want to sink the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cammo Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I reckon he is an 80% better player when he starts on the pitch. Looks lost when coming on at the 79th minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theresonlyonebzamora Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 this mario guy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tachycardia Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Played well on Wednesday, give him some time Agreed. I think players low on form/confidence often play a bit better when some of the bigger names (i.e. Fred/Dugandzic) are out. Perhaps they aren't as intimidated, perhaps it is as simple as he had more to do, so he stepped up and got it done. Form is temporary, class is permanent. Did he have class at NQF or was it just form? That's another debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpy Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Hes only got 3 if he performs whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy do you believe in throwing good money after bad that is why they laugh at our league overseas.So will he get moved after that and the new club can throw $130 000 at him and after he doesnt produce someone on the next forum will say we'll see how it goes.You seriously want to sink the league Considering I started the thread mate, I thought my comment of 'he has got 3 years, we'll see how he goes' was pretty obvious that I was being sarcastic. 3 years is way too long. Just relax bra! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpy Posted January 23, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 this mario guy... He's your mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theresonlyonebzamora Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 steady on fella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario Posted February 2, 2012 Report Share Posted February 2, 2012 steady on fella Oh shit I'm not desperate! This guy needs to get out more.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axwell Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 His run, touch & layoff for Sarkies miss was f*ckin ace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 His run, touch & layoff for Sarkies miss was f*ckin ace! I told all these kents he'll get better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephaniexo Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 I reckon he is an 80% better player when he starts on the pitch. Looks lost when coming on at the 79th minute. Aren't most players the same way though when thrown into the deep end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 His run, touch & layoff for Sarkies miss was f*ckin ace! You serious? He was past the last man yet slowed down to let him track back... Like he has done all year. His meant to be a fast foward, he had space and a one on one and should of scored the goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 You serious? He was past the last man yet slowed down to let him track back... Like he has done all year. His meant to be a fast foward, he had space and a one on one and should of scored the goal. Wasn't a one on one, one of their Centre half's got back hence why he squared it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 I told all these kents he'll get better. he did what was the only logical thing to do, and most players would have done the same in that position. Doesn't necessarily mean he suddenly improved into a quality player. Will have to do a lot more than just that to convince me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 he did what was the only logical thing to do, and most players would have done the same in that position. Doesn't necessarily mean he suddenly improved into a quality player. Will have to do a lot more than just that to convince me Wasn't directed at that one moment, had a pretty good game & has shown glimpses of the Williams when he was at NQF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiranovic Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 hate people slagging williams while srhoj is in the team still Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brushy8 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 I know Williams has been very average and his confidence is absolutely shot but can anyone explain why he was playing on the left wing when he came on? He has no left foot that I can tell so everyone time he got possession his first reaction was to come back inside rather than hit the bi-line like Goodwin was doing. Willing to give him a preseason to work his ass off and get fit after the wake-up call this season has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mg91 Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 Shroj at least serves a purpose, even if it is an archaic one. David Williams is being exposed for his lack of technique in a team that demands it in the final third. His Heart career to date has been riddled with poor crosses, poor passes and poor touches that have resulted in turnovers all over the pitch. In the dying stages last week, his attempt to switch the play evaded everyone in Red and White and found the touchline, killing what was our final chance on goal. I don't want to be overtly negative, but his technical deficiencies are going to make life very hard for him at the Heart, particularly when he can't seem to use the gifts he does have, which are mostly in the athletic category, to their full potential. Fingers crossed he'll find his feet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted February 6, 2012 Report Share Posted February 6, 2012 This my point, his speed is meant be one of his strongest abilities so he should of pushed on... I can’t help thinking that the NQF Williams version would of pushed on and scored the goal. He also IMO seems a lot a more unfit now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toogood18 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Shroj at least serves a purpose, even if it is an archaic one. David Williams is being exposed for his lack of technique in a team that demands it in the final third. His Heart career to date has been riddled with poor crosses, poor passes and poor touches that have resulted in turnovers all over the pitch. In the dying stages last week, his attempt to switch the play evaded everyone in Red and White and found the touchline, killing what was our final chance on goal. I don't want to be overtly negative, but his technical deficiencies are going to make life very hard for him at the Heart, particularly when he can't seem to use the gifts he does have, which are mostly in the athletic category, to their full potential. Fingers crossed he'll find his feet. Completely agree, Shroj serves a purpose in the side, brings some grunt, but Williams, although his performance was 5% better in the derby, has been terrible all year. How did this bloke play for the Socceroos? There are better players in our NYL than him who don't get game time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharpy Posted February 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) He should have chipped the keeper with his first touch from 35 metres out. Was the obvious choice. Hack. Edited February 7, 2012 by sharpy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo_Melb_Warrior Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Sarkies scores that simple put away, and David Williams looks a lot better. I agree with mg91, his technical ability makes it doubtful he would ever succeed and whilst when he arrived I was over the moon, looking deeper at it, was he a good fit in our system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markn Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 David is carrying a few too many kg's. Once he drops weight, he will be back to his Queensland Roar days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 David is carrying a few too many kg's. Once he drops weight, he will be back to his Queensland Roar days. From my years of watching professional sport – Once players put on the weight they tend to usually put more weight than go the other way and lose it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Unfortunately he was not impressive in the NYL match on Sunday either. Any senior player worth his salt should be a stand-out in the NYL if he's required to play there. Agree with those comments by MG and Brushy - DW needs a really tough off-season to get his body into shape again and regain his speed if he can - then his technical deficiencies might be tolerable. Otherwise we're just going to carry him as dead wood for another two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 After this guy was dumped in Denmark, I think he got an offer of a trial in south africa. While he takes a spot in the league there are better that arent playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clay52 Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 why do all you flogs keep rippin into Shroj....we are a better side with him in!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axwell Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 why do all you flogs keep rippin into Shroj....we are a better side with him in!!!! Were you watching saturday night? He looked way out of his depth, you flog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo_Melb_Warrior Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 I'm a flog either way then but I thought Shroj was good on Saturday night. Not our best player but very good depth player for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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