jw1739 Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Mate copped a 5 year ban for allegedly lighting a flare in the round 25 game against Wellington Phoenix... a flare he DID NOT LIGHT... In fact I don't think he's ever even touched a flare. Does anyone know who can be contacted in regards to the issue, either at the club or the FFA, and or how to fight it? Cheers Would suggest that if the notice of ban states a specific reason for the ban and your mate is truthfully not guilty then he sign a Statutory Declaration to that effect and have it properly witnessed and send off to the FFA with covering letter requesting that the ban be rescinded. Keep copies of everything of course. Shifts the onus of proof. Worth a go, at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Also been brought up, only issue would be that he would most likely have to sit in GA (by himself) because they would recognize him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Also been brought up, only issue would be that he would most likely have to sit in GA (by himself) Why though? Not like ACG have a picture of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzatron Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 plenty of CCTV around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 I just can't imagine anyone actively looking for people with bans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 rofl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 if he was found to be in breach of the banning order, pretty sure he would end up in court very quickly then regardless of if the ban he was given was fair or not he would be in a bit of trouble. still worth fighting it, but can't see the FFA giving a fuck they will prob just ignore your friends attempts at getting the ban rescinded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FB. Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) Don't mean to step on any toes here, but to say "send a tweet to Scott Munn" is a pretty poor answer to a kid who's just had his innocent mate unfairly and unjustly banned from being able to watch his club play matches for 5 years. What if it had been a main lad that got banned under similar circumstances? Would the answer still be the same? As a collective, this is where terrace leaders must lead and fight for a just outcome for the kid and involve the wider active community if they have to. TBH this is probably one of the more worse stories I have heard come out of the terrace in a while. Hopefully the right people are ontop of it who realise the seriousness of this and can do whatever is nessecary to get the kid's ban overturned. Edited June 18, 2012 by FB. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Don't mean to step on any toes here, but to say "send a tweet to Scott Munn" is a pretty poor answer to a kid who's just had his innocent mate unfairly and unjustly banned from being able to watch his club play matches for 5 years. What if it had been a main lad that got banned under similar circumstances? Would the answer still be the same? As a collective, this is where terrace leaders must lead and fight for a just outcome for the kid and involve the wider active community if they have to. TBH this is probably one of the more worse stories I have heard come out of the terrace in a while. Hopefully the right people are ontop of it who realise the seriousness of this and can do whatever is nessecary to get the kid's ban overturned. If you reread my post, I did suggest that as a starting point, obviously if that doesnt lead to to an acceptable outcome it will be pursued further. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FB. Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Good to hear. Justice must be served. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argentinez Posted June 18, 2012 Report Share Posted June 18, 2012 Rip more pyro in protest lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marteaux Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 This is the same guy who was also evicted along with MTP - for something neither of them did? ACG where more of a joke than usual that day - randomly pulling people out for no reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seannist047 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 This is the same guy who was also evicted along with MTP - for something neither of them did? ACG where more of a joke than usual that day - randomly pulling people out for no reason. Yeh pretty sure it was that day... if not it was the week after Had mates evicted two weeks in a row for shit all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baresi Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Whatever happened to Stacey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seannist047 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 Whatever happened to Stacey? 5 year ban and a fine im pretty sure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 We will follow this up for you through the appropriate channels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seannist047 Posted June 19, 2012 Report Share Posted June 19, 2012 cheers We will follow this up for you through the appropriate channels. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTP Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 Going to cost the lad $2000 just to appeal the charge. Still might not get off it after paying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD. Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 Going to cost the lad $2000 just to appeal the charge. Still might not get off it after paying it. What a joke, that's the FFA for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 get the kid who got banned on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 (edited) Can I suggest that anyone who hasnt renewed their membership yet, and cares about this issue, refrain from renewing their membership till there is some progress on this issue. Edited June 27, 2012 by Tesla 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 Can I suggest that anyone who hasnt renewed their membership yet, and cares about this issue, refrain from renewing their membership till there is some progress on this issue. Also if you do this please send an email to the club detailing why you are refraining from from renewing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 would someone be kind enough to make a template? of course will be renewing, but lets see how the club handles this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 would someone be kind enough to make a template? of course will be renewing, but lets see how the club handles this. in the process of doing it, will get it critiqued and then will post 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dRoy Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 I haven't renewed yet. Tell me what to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 If I'd seen this thread a couple of days ago, I would have joined. Gotta stick up for our own, and the innocent in particular. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilsonMHFC Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 Whatever happened to Stacey? 5 year ban + $360 fine and lets just say her mum wasn't too happy either... In regards to the Pyro, people know the harsh penalties, security cameras at Aami can zoom into a single seat and clearly view one's face so the chances of getting away with it are pretty slim. Also down for all things regarding any form of protest, even though I personally have not been victimized by ACG, this would be a top-notch way of making the pricks earn there money and would be a good laugh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX7zMG0XNIE[/media 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 Dear Scott Munn I have decided to indefinitely suspend the renewal of my membership due to the unjust and unfair banning of a fellow Melbourne Heart supporter. I find it utterly outrageous that the FFA have decided to ban the aforementioned person without evidence to prove that the alleged incident did actually occur and are relying upon the words of the ACG security, whom on many occasions have evicted innocent bystanders. It is for this reason that I will not be renewing my membership until evidence that the alleged incident did occur by the banned individual or the ban is rightfully rescinded. Regards, A concerned Supporter adjust/tweak to your liking or you can write you own if you prefer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 I like it, but will he know exactly what is being referred to..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 I like it, but will he know exactly what is being referred to..? well written, but i also agree with this ^ could we add the name of the victim? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 A senior terrace member will be/already has been in contact with Scott Munn over the issue. If Scott Munn is actually serious about his job he will make sure he knows what it refers to. I would leave the individuals name out of the email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 Yep sweet mate, that's great then! Definitely would leave the name out too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seannist047 Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 (edited) If you want to add the name of the victim its 'Christian Russo' and he doesnt have an account on here which is why i am always speaking however if needs be he can make an account... Cheers Edited June 27, 2012 by Seannist047 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dRoy Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 What email do we send to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted June 27, 2012 Report Share Posted June 27, 2012 Anything I can do as a member who has already renewed? Should I just send my own letter outlining my disappointment? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) I just noticed there seems to be a typo in malloy's letter template It is for this reason that I will not be renewing my membership until there is evidence that the alleged incident did occur by the banned individual or the ban is rightfully rescinded. or It is for this reason that I will not be renewing my membership until evidence that the alleged incident did occur by the banned individual is demonstrated or the ban is rightfully rescinded. or something like that, doesnt really make sense otherwise. Anything I can do as a member who has already renewed? Should I just send my own letter outlining my disappointment? Yeah just edit it to something like (remove 'foundation' and just leave it as 'member' if you arent a foundation member) Dear Scott Munn As a foundation member of Melbourne Heart I am writing to you to inform you of my disappointment at the unjust and unfair banning of a fellow Melbourne Heart member. I find it utterly outrageous that the FFA have decided to ban the aforementioned person without evidence to prove that the alleged incident did actually occur and are relying upon the words of the ACG security, whom on many occasions have evicted innocent bystanders. I will reconsider renewing my membership next season unless evidence that the alleged incident did occur by the banned individual is demonstrated or the ban is rightfully rescinded. Regards, A concerned member Edited June 28, 2012 by Tesla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I require Munn's email address Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusso_heart Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) Hey guys, I'm the guy who got wrongfully banned. In case you were wondering, I was told I got the ban because I never denied lighting the flare to the police officer, even though I explicitly stated to him twice that I did not do it. EDIT: Also, thanks for all the helps guys! It really is appreciated Edited June 28, 2012 by crusso_heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I require Munn's email address scott.munn@melbourneheartfc.com.au Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downbylaw Posted June 28, 2012 Report Share Posted June 28, 2012 I just noticed there seems to be a typo in Tesla's letter template / I will (not?) re(consider?) renewing my membership next season unless evidence that the alleged incident did occur by the banned individual (and?) is (evidently?) demonstrated or the ban is rightfully rescinded (upon further investigation?). Regards, A concerned member Sorry dude, not being a nitpicking wanker but that last sentence somewhat confuses me. From a Y12 drop out so I may well be wrong! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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