Bozza Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 we should re-sign Shroj as another DM Another top post! Not only do we not need another CB but we also need a 3rd DM.. Sounds like a plan worthy of Aloisi's attention! Gerhardt looks like a wonderful selection! I hope he lives up to his video. He looks physical, quick, skillful and intelligent, I will at least admit Srhoj was 1 of those 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ando Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 The Graceful One was all four and more. He was our most underrated player and clearly the club did not value him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Refer to thread, leave this thread for talk-rumours tbh, too much clutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 Now that Kewell is gone, best case scenario: - Adelaide offload SVD and sign Flores. - Melbourne Heart sign SVD. - Victory get fuck all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huzie Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Wouldn't you rather Flores then SVD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drcolossus1 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Wouldn't you rather Flores then SVD? Under the hope that Fred can play out the season uninjured, I'd go SVD. We need that finishing. Not saying that Flores isn't class, but I find it strange that he could not command a starting spot in a Chinese side that is fighting relegation??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 JD has tweeted 'Hopefully will finalise a couple more signings next week and the search continues for a high quality striker.' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huzie Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Hope we get Nate Foster or even promote Zac Walker, need a few options this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Nate foster is no chance now, we only have one visa spot left and that will be used on a striker. I'd much rather Foster and Honos, over Gray and Gol Gol or anyother hack FFS. Only thing that JDs ever done which I don't agree with. Edited June 24, 2012 by LR9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Nate foster is no chance now, we only have one visa spot left and that will be used on a striker. Why is that? Are you saying Gray is a done deal as well? Can't see why we need Gray as well as Gerhardt. Edited June 24, 2012 by jw1739 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sash Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Not sure if Gol Gol's a done deal yet. JD said he's had some injury issues that they wanted to make sure he'd overcome before signing him. I don't know why, but he wasn't training on Friday and I don't think he was in any of the photos from Thursday. With Gol Gol, Gray, and Honos, at least they've had a good look at them before making a decision. With Gray in particular, they've watched him in the VPL, taken him to Hawai, and have had him at training. So they know what they're getting. Which probably can't always be said for players brought into the league. Edited June 24, 2012 by Sash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulhollanddrive Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) Best team atm. 5 places left in the squad. Bolton Marrone Colosimo Hamill Behich Fred Gerhardt Thompson Dugandzic Hoffman Germano Compared to MV. 2 places left in squad. Velaphi Franjic Foschini Leijer Traore Ferreira Bru Celeski Rojas Allsop Thompson We are so much better placed than MV, but it's up to Aloisi and JD to take advantage of it. Edited June 24, 2012 by mulhollanddrive 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 please don't put hoffman anywhere near the squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 As I see it ATM, if we include Gerhardt as a done deal, we have 15 players contracted for next season. Three visa spots are taken (Germano, Fred and Gerhardt) leaving two vacant plus one more if we want to sign an AFC player. We want to go into the season with 20 players in the senior squad, so we have five more to sign. 48 hours ago basically no-one had heard of Gerhardt. Frustrating though it is, it's best not to assume anything until it's officially announced by the club. I can't see any reason to sign Gray now, unless we intend to play him as well as Gerhardt, because it's a waste of a visa spot one way or the other. As for Gol Gol, we've had a look at him,, so wait for the verdict. On paper he doesn't seem to add a lot to the squad. If we do sign either of these players I for one would hope it's for one year only. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downbylaw Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 We are so much better placed than MV, but it's up to Aloisi and JD to take advantage of it. Never count your chickens before they hatch, it would be naive to think they won't show a large improvement this coming season, in fact the whole league should for that matter. We need to go above and beyond par in improvement and consistency to catch Roar, Glory and CCM. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huzie Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Need someone who can put a decent cross in from the left, also need someone for set peices, I love Dugaznic but he's not good enough to be taking our free kicks and corners. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 That happy we've finally signed someone, hope all our signings are this good. Keen as for round 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 love Dugandzic but he sucks balls at corners TBH. gets soooo frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Need someone who can put a decent cross in from the left, also need someone for set peices, I love Dugaznic but he's not good enough to be taking our free kicks and corners. One of my pet rants...strikers should be in and around the box for the chances, not taking the kick. Just hope JA and the new coaching team take some action on these things because Jv$ never seemed to do a thing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I can't see any reason to sign Gray now, unless we intend to play him as well as Gerhardt, because it's a waste of a visa spot one way or the other. i'd guess they intend Gerhardt to be the new midfield enforcer they've talked about. Where as Gray is a central defender, presumably cover for colosimo, good or hamil. If it's not Gray, then we clearly need another defender, needless to say, particularly if good leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 One of my pet rants...strikers should be in and around the box for the chances, not taking the kick. unless they hit them like sibon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulhollanddrive Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 I'm sure JA and JD have a template of the team they are after to contend this season. Bolton Marrone Behich Gerhardt Fred Thompson Dugandzic Germano All those players are capable of being top players in their position in the league. This leaves CB x 2, Striker, which if you were wanting to take our club to the next level these would be the exact positions we've underachieved in our 2 years. We leak goals and aren't ruthless in front of them. I think top level signings in these areas make us a contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toogood18 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 Look JD said a few weeks ago that we would only decide on Mebrathu in August sometime as he has come to the club injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 The more I think about it, the more it fucking enrages me. I still can't justify how Gray gets a VISA spot, there AT LEAST 10 better quality Aussie CBs who could be signed on minimum wage, as 'depth'! Fuck sake, Even Konstatanidis and Traloer are playing better football in the VPL currently. Dandenong have only conceded 4 goals in 11 games since Gray left, coincidence? If we sign this cunt we would deprive a good young International like Foster, Del Solar, Sherbon, Steven Weir, etc. a chance in the HAL. I'd even rather Roddy Vargas, as he could waste away on the bench or in the NYL, rather then this imposter 'Stevie G' taking up a foreigner spot. ... Yes, I'm mad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huzie Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 JD will have his reasons, still, he hasn't signed yet so there is still a chance he might only be getting looked at incase another target they have approached declines... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 totally agree with you LR9 there's no logic with using a visa spot on a player who is essentially going to be our 4th choice CB. IMO, by the looks of things we have made a pretty much perfect signing with Gerhardt in that he is an experienced DM (that is at the prime of his career) who has also played a lot of his football as a CB. It's perfect in that IF colosimo is to get injured, it would make sense to shift Gerhardt into the centre of defense to provide the experience next to Hamill/Good and Germano would just be the sole DM. That way, that visa spot could be used to sign a high quality AM for extra creativity and to help out Fred , so regardless if Fred or colosimo were injured, we'd still be sending out a very dangerous squad that is capable of beating any team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted June 24, 2012 Report Share Posted June 24, 2012 The more I think about it, the more it fucking enrages me. I still can't justify how Gray gets a VISA spot, there AT LEAST 10 better quality Aussie CBs who could be signed on minimum wage, as 'depth'! Fuck sake, Even Konstatanidis and Traloer are playing better football in the VPL currently. Dandenong have only conceded 4 goals in 11 games since Gray left, coincidence? If we sign this cunt we would deprive a good young International like Foster, Del Solar, Sherbon, Steven Weir, etc. a chance in the HAL. I'd even rather Roddy Vargas, as he could waste away on the bench or in the NYL, rather then this imposter 'Stevie G' taking up a foreigner spot. ... Yes, I'm mad. I thought Steven Weir had been deported... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I watched the highlights from our game away to Adelaide in our first season the other night and was reminded of the confidence I had in both JA and Gerald Sibon to score chances when the came. This was lacking this season although Eli did hit form this year. Let's hope we get one or two high quality strikers soon who can star. If this happens and Hoffman (more a striker than midfielder in my opinion as he showed playing for Australia) and Williams deliver consistently, we have a great arsenal (inc. Mate, Germano when used as attacker) who can win this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitzo_1805 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 If i can recall, GolGol was signed by Gold Coast as an australian player, not a VISA spot ... I may be wrong tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I watched the highlights from our game away to Adelaide in our first season the other night and was reminded of the confidence I had in both JA and Gerald Sibon to score chances when the came. This was lacking this season although Eli did hit form this year. Let's hope we get one or two high quality strikers soon who can star. If this happens and Hoffman (more a striker than midfielder in my opinion as he showed playing for Australia) and Williams deliver consistently, we have a great arsenal (inc. Mate, Germano when used as attacker) who can win this league. Hoff has never delivered and never will. Williams has never delivered for Heart - and I have strong doubts that he ever will. The only way we will have a "Great Arsenal" is if the recruited Striker is the find of the season: As I very much doubt that they will be a big name. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jw1739 Posted June 25, 2012 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 I'm sure JA and JD have a template of the team they are after to contend this season. IMO this is the key point. I'm quite sure that this is why JA got the nod from the Board. He was able to articulate a vision for the team. The previous coaching team had done that for our inaugural season - remember, it was play with width down the wings? - and then for the second season we threw that away for some reason. It's fine to criticise players for not performing, but if you sign them based on certain strengths and then don't play them where they can use those strengths, then it's not surprising that they don't perform. No point in playing Terra at 5 foot 4 inches and then pumping long high balls over his head. No point in playing Worm or Dugandzic as wingers and then not feeding the ball to them where they can run on to it. Williams made it clear when he signed that he wanted to play as a central striker, so JvS played him on the wing. Hoffman - yes, I hear all the arguments, but the guy scored a bagful of goals in last pre-season and has a good scoring record in internationals - and how many times have we played him as a striker? I think we should let JA and JD get their squad together and see what happens in the pre-season games before forming too many opinions. It's not that I disagree with a lot of what's being said, but with at least 5 more signings to be made to the seniors (and the potential for 3 more after that) and the NYL squad to back them up...let's wait and see for a bit. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulhollanddrive Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Yeah, the biggest thing that struck me was JD saying we're after an elite striker or words to that effect. We won't make finals with Hoffman and Williams up front. Then after that it's probably looking for a starting 11 CB, and some added attacking depth. We're well placed at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huzie Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Let's hope we can get it right this season because next season we lose the bulk of our players again with 90% of the team signed until 2012-13, hope we resign a few players this year! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) IMO, the ideal squad this season would have been: GK's: Bolton, Redmayne RB: Marrone CB: Madaschi, Colosimo, Hamill, Good LB: Behich, Goodwin DM: Gerhardt, Germano, Thompson AM: Fred, new AM, Kalmar RW: Dugandzic, Williams CF: Babalj, new visa* LW: new visa*, Gol Gol 21 players heading into the season, pretty much perfect squad with right balance of experience and youth to win the league imo Edited June 25, 2012 by heart_fan10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 That's 6 VISAs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 yeah just realised. But our AM could have been someone like Vidosic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 No point in playing Terra at 5 foot 4 inches and then pumping long high balls over his head. No point in playing Worm or Dugandzic as wingers and then not feeding the ball to them where they can run on to it. Williams made it clear when he signed that he wanted to play as a central striker, so JvS played him on the wing. Hoffman - yes, I hear all the arguments, but the guy scored a bagful of goals in last pre-season and has a good scoring record in internationals - and how many times have we played him as a striker? Hoff has never delivered and never will. Williams has never delivered for Heart - and I have strong doubts that he ever will. Last season Hoff came on against Sydney up front and scored. The rest of the time he, Williams and Terra were all played out of positon, on their weaker side etc. They all have the ability and hopefully JA will bring the best out of Hoffman and Williams. Coupled with a new striker and Mate, I still maintain that we will have a strong offensive line. Time will tell how effective it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godfather Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 Last season Hoff came on against Sydney up front and scored. I remember this well. He had 90% of the net wide open, keeper wrong footed and shot it at the keeper and somehow it went in (i think maybe via deflection). It was during this moment that i finally lost all hope in the Hoff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) A couple more points. We were seemingly caught unawares when Red Star moved for Babalj, and we had no contingency plans in place. IMO it's inevitable that someone will make a move for Curtis Good sooner or later - so we need to have a Plan B ready there. Are we looking sufficiently hard at the possibilities of picking up someone for the AFC visa spot available to us? Edited June 25, 2012 by jw1739 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted June 25, 2012 Report Share Posted June 25, 2012 (edited) I remember this well. He had 90% of the net wide open, keeper wrong footed and shot it at the keeper and somehow it went in (i think maybe via deflection). It was during this moment that i finally lost all hope in the Hoff. It was def a deflection - I remember checking the replay to see for sure at the game. And I cannot even bother explaining how pointless a season would be if our CF options consisted of Williams and Hoff. Of couse JA and JD know this - I just hope their solution is one that works. Edited June 25, 2012 by cadete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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