The Aloisi/Didulica Appreciation Society

[Libero]

Also ITT: Aloisi > Milicic

We dont just get the better players WSW.

I know the season hasn't started and all, but cant fault their signings or who we've been rumored with.

[marteaux]

Shut up mate. We haven't even kicked a ball yet and we're appreciating JA?

Didiluca has done a good job with the resources he has been allowed, but neither of them deserve an appreciation thread.

[Jimmy]

Didulica is very good at what he does.

Still would of preferred Milicic, but I agree that JA hasn't really done or said anything wrong as of yet.

[cadete]

Shut up mate. We haven't even kicked a ball yet and we're appreciating JA?

Didiluca has done a good job with the resources he has been allowed, but neither of them deserve an appreciation thread.

Then again prob more worthy than this guy:

http://mhfcsupporters.com/topic/25-the-jason-hoffman-appreciation-thread/

[jw1739]

A bit premature? We don't yet have a coaching team (surely no club has moved slower than us on this?) or even the minimum number of players for the senior squad, nor have we played a pre-season match. I don't have a problem with the signings so far, but I don't think we've sorted out the midfield or the front line yet - no obvious first choice at LW, or AM to partner Fred, nor, indeed, a replacement for Fred when he's unavailable.

[Peter]

A bit premature? We don't yet have a coaching team (surely no club has moved slower than us on this?) or even the minimum number of players for the senior squad, nor have we played a pre-season match. I don't have a problem with the signings so far, but I don't think we've sorted out the midfield or the front line yet - no obvious first choice at LW, or AM to partner Fred, nor, indeed, a replacement for Fred when he's unavailable.

I get the feeling Gol Gol, Williams or Germano are our choices on the left, depending on which formation we line up with.

[jw1739]

I get the feeling Gol Gol, Williams or Germano are our choices on the left, depending on which formation we line up with.

Which really is my point. Germano is a midfielder, Williams has shown that he just doesn't want to play there, and so by default we get to Golgol. And I don't think the default choice is the way to build a successful team.

Let's assume that Fred doesn't make it for the first few games of the season - who would you select as his replacement?

[belaguttman]

Fred's position is the crucial position where we need depth. If we can sign Grella this will cover him to an extent as even though he plays in a different position and with a different role, he's such a good ditributor of the ball that he'll be the player to link defence with attack. Of course he's also had his own fitness issues...

[cadete]

Fred's position is the crucial position where we need depth. If we can sign Grella this will cover him to an extent as even though he plays in a different position and with a different role, he's such a good ditributor of the ball that he'll be the player to link defence with attack. Of course he's also had his own fitness issues...

This is what I have been thinking, such is the quality of Grella his sheer ability could make up for our problem of not having an out and out injury free Number 10.

[Peter]

Which really is my point. Germano is a midfielder, Williams has shown that he just doesn't want to play there, and so by default we get to Golgol. And I don't think the default choice is the way to build a successful team.

Let's assume that Fred doesn't make it for the first few games of the season - who would you select as his replacement?

For left wing I think it is going to be Gol Gol.

If Fred is injured I am hoping for Kalmar to stay injury free and to play the role of attacking MF. Otherwise the next logical step is Hoffman.

If we go for a dimond shape midfield with Gerhardt (or maybe Grella?) as the defensive midfielder, Thompson and Germano as central MF and play Tadic and Mate up front, then I also think Williams could play the role of playmaker if needed.

Because of the salary/squad cap leaving us short of specialists, the players we have are flexible enough to play a number of roles.

Let's pray Fred doesn't get injured.

[heart_fan10]

Thompson will probably be the 'backup' for Fred, but i'm hoping Kalmar gets a shot there. I think he's a more creative player than thompson imo

[cadete]

Thompson will probably be the 'backup' for Fred, but i'm hoping Kalmar gets a shot there. I think he's a more creative player than thompson imo

Kalmar has never even shown the slightest indication to be able to run out a game,

Yet you think his more creative than the guy that’s played more A League games than any other player?

A guy who buy himself only last season won a Derby in 2 minutes with 2 goals?

Just a tad bit harsh IMO.

Matt Thompson was the League's premium Box to Box Midfielder for years and years for a reason, cannot wait for JA to use his talents properly - manage his body properly and for Matty Tee to put his knockers back in their box - Again.

Edited July 25, 2012 by cadete

[FB.]

Far too early for any sort of thread like this. I reckon there is still some serious doubts over wether Aloisi has the expiernce to manage a top flgiht football side.

Thought this was a somewhat interesting interview from Jesper Olsen on mfootball.com.

When asked to comment about Aloisi and Ante's as managers he had this to say;

“I spoke to Ante [Milicic, Heart’s ex-assistant coach] and Aloisi when the new coaching job was decided. It’s a very interesting time to start something new.

“Ante would have been a great choice, but I also got to know John…and they were both very capable.

“Unfortunately with this sort of decision, you only find out after if the right choice was made, but the club is in good hands with Aloisi.”

Which is more or less the diplomatic way of saying Ante would have been the better choice as coach. A pretty telling comment from someone who worked alongside both as an assitant for a while.

So far, I reckon the signings have been excellent from JD who has had to work with limited resources and a limited network overseas, but I'm still feeling pretty uneasy with Aloisi as coach. Having an experinced and senior ass. manager at the club who can assist and mentor Aloisi as the season progresses would probably help to alay some of those concerns.

[heart_fan10]

Kalmar has never even shown the slightest indication to be able to run out a game,

Yet you think his more creative than the guy that’s played more A League games than any other player?

A guy who buy himself only last season won a Derby in 2 minutes with 2 goals?

Just a tad bit harsh IMO.

Matt Thompson was the League's premium Box to Box Midfielder for years and years for a reason, cannot wait for JA to use his talents properly - manage his body properly and for Matty Tee to put his knockers back in their box - Again.

Firstly, what does running out a game have to do with creativity?

Secondly, how does playing more games relate with being more creative than another player who has played less games?

I'm not doubting that he won the derby with his 2 goals, but just because he won 1 game doesn't have anything to do with kalmar being more creative. Thompson has lost more games for us by himself, than he has won.

I'm just saying that i believe Kalmar has a smarter football brain than thompson, and has the ability to bring something out of the ordinary and different to the team where as thompson can at times be a very predictable player. There's no wrong or right here, everyone has a different opinion when it comes to these things.

[yelawolf]

i'll appreciate them when we win the fookin league

[marteaux]

i'll appreciate them when we win the fookin league

This.

Just like we gave JvS a bye-bye tifo and a winners sending off after 8th and 6th finishes. I've always thought it but never said it - this club and its supporters are desperate for icons and legends. Ffs, nearly every first team player has an 'appreciation thread'.

The closest we ever have come to having such a person was Sibon - and he was here for barely 12 months. Says a lot really.

[marteaux]

Firstly, what does running out a game have to do with creativity?

Secondly, how does playing more games relate with being more creative than another player who has played less games?

I'm not doubting that he won the derby with his 2 goals, but just because he won 1 game doesn't have anything to do with kalmar being more creative. Thompson has lost more games for us by himself, than he has won.

I'm just saying that i believe Kalmar has a smarter football brain than thompson, and has the ability to bring something out of the ordinary and different to the team where as thompson can at times be a very predictable player. There's no wrong or right here, everyone has a different opinion when it comes to these things.

This is pretty much all incorrect apart from when you agree with cadete.

Thompson > Kalmar any day of the week you fool. Don't you remember 3 years ago how he always used to dominate your old team?

[Murfy1]

This.

Just like we gave JvS a bye-bye tifo and a winners sending off after 8th and 6th finishes. I've always thought it but never said it - this club and its supporters are desperate for icons and legends. Ffs, nearly every first team player has an 'appreciation thread'.

The closest we ever have come to having such a person was Sibon - and he was here for barely 12 months. Says a lot really.

Yeah, let's just hate all the players and staff and only create treads demanding that each and every one of them be sacked.

So much fucking bitterness on this forum. It's pathetic. Supporters supporting a club and talking up its positives? No, not unless they win the league.

Pathetic. Cheer the fuck up.

Edited July 25, 2012 by Murfy1

[Jimmy]

Marteaux wins that one. Sorry Murf.

Expectations from supporters are too low.

[heart_fan10]

This is pretty much all incorrect apart from when you agree with cadete.

Thompson > Kalmar any day of the week you fool. Don't you remember 3 years ago how he always used to dominate your old team?

since when did i say kalmar was a better player than thompson?? i'm talking about in terms of creativity, from what i've seen from kalmar when he was in good form compared to thompson, i was very impressed

thompson has been absolutely woeful since that victory game, which was a long time ago now. I'm not sure if you chose to turn a blind eye every time he gave the ball away since that game last season? Because 2/3 of the time he touched the ball he'd lose possession. All i was originally saying is that there's no use playing thompson while he's been terrible for us lately, and i'd rather have kalmar to give us something different instead watching the same shit that thompsons been serving up as of late. That goes for any player.

[Braveheart]

This.

Just like we gave JvS a bye-bye tifo and a winners sending off after 8th and 6th finishes. I've always thought it but never said it - this club and its supporters are desperate for icons and legends. Ffs, nearly every first team player has an 'appreciation thread'.

The closest we ever have come to having such a person was Sibon - and he was here for barely 12 months. Says a lot really.

Hoffman. Hush now little chap.

[cadete]

Firstly, what does running out a game have to do with creativity?

Secondly, how does playing more games relate with being more creative than another player who has played less games?

I'm not doubting that he won the derby with his 2 goals, but just because he won 1 game doesn't have anything to do with kalmar being more creative. Thompson has lost more games for us by himself, than he has won.

I'm just saying that i believe Kalmar has a smarter football brain than thompson, and has the ability to bring something out of the ordinary and different to the team where as thompson can at times be a very predictable player. There's no wrong or right here, everyone has a different opinion when it comes to these things.

Mate u really got to be joking...

The fact Thompson has played as a Forward, Mid and Defender for such a large amount of games just shows how great a football brain he has...

Most A League supporters would say one of the best.

Yet u think a bloke who would be most playing VPL right now if his contract had ended at the end of last season not this end of season is a better creative option???

[heart_fan10]

you obviously rate thompson highly, i'm not a big fan of him tbh.

[Peter]

I rate Thompson highly as a midfielder (rather than a CB). We havn't seen much of Kalmar for awhile and so it will be good to see how he goes this year.

The fact that they were both injured for a large part of last season (Kalmar made a suprise comeback in the last game of the season) makes a comparison a little hard. Hopefully they will both do well this season as we challenge for honours.

[perthheart]

I hope kalmar does well this season. However I have a nagging feeling he will struggle for game time and be released come seasons end.

[jw1739]

I hope kalmar does well this season. However I have a nagging feeling he will struggle for game time and be released come seasons end.

I predict that he will be released.

[cadete]

you obviously rate thompson highly, i'm not a big fan of him tbh.

Not to harp on but I just think the guy has a fantastic track record since the League started and most of all really puts his all in for our club...

The guy did reasonable at CB in S1, but I am sure more than anyone he knew he was being played out of position but he did it for the side anyway.

He also played on at the end of last season despite being very obviously injured and in some great discomfort for the teams sake.

[Peter]

Roar build towards A-League dynasty

Laine Clark

Published: July 25, 2012 - 7:34PM

The pre-season might be just two weeks old but Brisbane have already begun long-term contract talks with players in a bold bid to ensure an A-League dynasty.

New Roar coach Rado Vidosic has wasted no time after taking over the reins from Ange Postecoglou, tweaking their championship-winning style with a more direct, attacking twist for 2012-13.

But the Brisbane mentor hopes to make the biggest difference off the field as he bids to lock in as many players as he can to build on their remarkable success.

"We want to keep as many as possible so we have decided to negotiate with them right away, even though it is just a couple of weeks into the pre-season," he told AAP.

"These players have been part of our culture for the last couple of years and we don't want to change that.

"We want to keep the core group - not for just one more year but two or three.

"We want to reward players for their achievements and their loyalty.

"If we do that, we can develop a very good culture at the club. We want to build toward a dynasty."

Vidosic said they would start by locking in long-term deals for their leadership group of captain Matt Smith, Shane Stefanutto, Michael Theoklitos and Erik Paartalu.

"They dictate everything. You can train all you want but, if you don't have a good leadership group to show the way, you may not be successful," Vidosic said.

"We need those players. Hopefully, we can get all of them."

Finally handed the reins after assisting previous head coaches Miron Bleiberg, Frank Farina and the championship-winning Postecoglou, Vidosic is not afraid to finetune the Roar style.

The arrival of South Korean under-20 international Do Dong-Hyun alongside the likes of Ben Halloran and Henrique has Vidosic confident that fans can see a more aggressive Brisbane on show in 2012-13.

"We have a lot of speed down the flanks so we can use that," he said.

"We want to be as dominant as ever but we will try and play a more smarter game.

"We want to be as patient as we have been in the past two seasons but, sometimes, we will want to get the ball down as fast and as hard as we can - it will be exciting to watch."

Asked if he felt pressure stepping into Postecoglou's big shoes, Vidosic said: "There is always pressure but, at the moment, I don't feel any.

"We are taking steps toward how we want to play (but) it will be up to the players.

"If our preparation is right, I am sure we will be one of the contenders for the championship."

This story was found at: http://news.theage.c...0725-22qmj.html

I like the attitude of Brisbane in securing players in order to build a solid base and culture in their club.

After our chop/change this off season, it would be good for JA and JD to do something similar with the core of our squad.

Whilst I understand there will aways be some players moving on, I don't believe we should try and replicate the turnover of a caravan park. That is not the way to build a solid club with a loyal support.

Edited July 26, 2012 by Peter

[Caganer]

After our chop/change this off season, it would be good for JA and JD to do something similar with the core of our squad.

Whilst I understand there will aways be some players moving on, I don't believe we should try and replicate the turnover of a caravan park. That is not the way to build a solid club with a loyal support.

This was what Heart was doing when they signed Babalj, Hamill, Behich and Hoffman to longer term contracts. It's no guarantee they will stick around though.

[Libero]

This was what Heart was doing when they signed Babalj, Hamill, Behich and Hoffman to longer term contracts. It's no guarantee they will stick around though.

i think Hoffman will be with us for a while yet!

hahaha, agree with you though.

[marteaux]

Can't wait till Hoffman has his break out season this year. You'll see.

[Deviant]

Not one thing on this page resembles the appreciation of J.A and J.D. Although you all have valid points... but just to dilute the debating and get a little on track... I truly appreciate both these guys and trust there judgement, dedication and direction that they want to take the club.

carry on...

[Dylan]

JD to brisbane

[Luke]

JD to brisbane

 

seriously ?