LR9 Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Just read the Newy forum, cunts don't even want him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Just read the Newy forum, cunts don't even want him... Typical: Those Kurri Kurri Krew guys would walk past a 99% Off Clearance sale at Barbour for a rack of cheap Rusty Singlets... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Good defenders are so hard to come by, especially ones that are so versatile. The club should give him some reassurance and they can do that this Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 Newcastle cunts are too busy checking out each others Monster energy drink hats and skate shoes 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 If he's not off contract we should be able to get a transfer fee. It's absolute bullshit the FFA not allowing transfer fees between A League clubs. why the fuck not. never realized this. what is their reason? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 why the fuck not. never realized this. what is their reason? Because they dont want one or two big teams taking all the best players. TBH, transfer fees are retarded anyway when there is a salary cap. Against salary cap. Against no transfer fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Because they dont want one or two big teams taking all the best players. TBH, transfer fees are retarded anyway when there is a salary cap. Against salary cap. Against no transfer fees. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranerz21 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 hope goodwin stays but i have the feeling because of the more money that will probably be offered by the jets, he will go there sadly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 hope goodwin stays but i have the feeling because of the more money that will probably be offered by the jets, he will go there sadly surely they haven't offered him too much more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 (edited) surely they haven't offered him too much more? Considering Nathan Tinkler out bid Peter Moody for Black Caviar's Brother for a bit of fun... I doubt providing a more alluring contract to Goodwin will be anything more than spare change. Edited March 21, 2012 by cadete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 Because they dont want one or two big teams taking all the best players. TBH, transfer fees are retarded anyway when there is a salary cap. Against salary cap. Against no transfer fees. dont they understand a club can say no to selling a player if hes under contract? against a salary cap too ...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 any body know how long his timeline is to make his decision I tried asking yesterday but he wanted to drop the subject ? where did you see him? if he didnt give you an answer then i dont like our chances of him staying on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 (edited) dont they understand a club can say no to selling a player if hes under contract? against a salary cap too ...... He does not have a senior contract. Edited March 21, 2012 by cadete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVR04 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 I went to thwart training on Tuesday ancona a little on facebook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 (edited) He does not have a senior contract. In other countries, where transfer fees apply, usually some compensation is still due. Eg in England they have a tribunal that determines it AFAIK. And even under FIFA laws I believe compensation is owed, but that might apply to the club that trained him from youth and not us. Eg I remembered when I played form Sydenham Park, and PSV had signed Spase Dilevski, they were entitled to compensation. Edited March 21, 2012 by Tesla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peted27 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 might be a stupid question, but aren't youth team players under contract aswel? assuming that yes they are and his is about to finish. are youth team players paid a wage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 (edited) Most youth team players are currently no longer under contract. All our Senior players contracts run until April 30 on any given year. Edited March 21, 2012 by LR9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted March 21, 2012 Report Share Posted March 21, 2012 He does not have a senior contract. yeaah but this was about transfer fees between A-League clubs, need to sign him up! might be a stupid question, but aren't youth team players under contract aswel? assuming that yes they are and his is about to finish. are youth team players paid a wage? youth team players are paid. youth team players are under contract as well, but goodwin's ran out this year.... thats why jets are chasing him and thats why heart need to give him a contract... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 Not in the squad for what is esentially a dead rubber. Good luck chap... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 As far as I'm aware, ALL youth team players were only signed to 1 year contracts. Good if they turn out to be duds. Potentially very bad if they turn out a future star like Goodwin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11v11 Posted March 22, 2012 Report Share Posted March 22, 2012 The thing that pisses me off is that if he does go, Heart get nothing for him. It would have been good if he did show promise early they could sign a two year contract, then at least get his contract bought out by the next club. There are too many youngsters that get snatched from their original A-League clubs and they get no compensation for them. Then the next club gets to sell them on to an overseas club for good money. If he does go to Newcastle, Heart should get something if he gets sold on from Newcastle. All nice in a real world, but it will be a shame to see a promising lad leave when he could have been ours. I bet if Papas was still at Heart he would have stayed. :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexandro Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 I will contribute $100 to signing Goodwin. Who's with me? If he goes I'll be majorly pissed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Gut feeling tells me, hes gawn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 IMO the club has done the right thing in this case. Goodwin's a good player, and they've offered him a contract for next season (possibly two), but they're not going to enter a bidding war. It would be irresponsible to sign up every young player who bobs up to the surface. Nick Kalmar is a good example. We signed him, then a couple of clubs came knocking, and we rushed in and signed him for two more years - and he hasn't really been in contention for a first-team place ever since. But he's on our books, taking up a valuable spot in the senior squad. Doesn't only apply to young players coming through the NYL either - Williams being the classic example. Most important thing at this stage is to get the new manager right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11v11 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Gut feeling tells me, hes gawn. I think you might be right. :-( Most would have thought that he would have been given a game against Adelaide pissants so he could have stuck the knife into them for rejecting him. I just hope that club did their best to keep him. I still think that the Papas influence was the factor why he would go. Still a major loss if so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 IMO the club has done the right thing in this case. Goodwin's a good player, and they've offered him a contract for next season (possibly two), but they're not going to enter a bidding war. It would be irresponsible to sign up every young player who bobs up to the surface. Nick Kalmar is a good example. We signed him, then a couple of clubs came knocking, and we rushed in and signed him for two more years - and he hasn't really been in contention for a first-team place ever since. But he's on our books, taking up a valuable spot in the senior squad. Doesn't only apply to young players coming through the NYL either - Williams being the classic example. Most important thing at this stage is to get the new manager right. i don't mind kalmar, we've seen he has the potential to be good it's just unfortunate he got injured otherwise we would have seen him feature more this season. What annoys me about this situation is that we've got Williams and Hoffman sitting on 2-3 year contracts (i would imagine fairly good pay) who have been fit pretty much all year and yet have contributed absolutely NOTHING. Where as when Goodwin is fully fit, he would at least be featuring most games, contribute something to the team and give us cover and some extra options/formations to play against teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11v11 Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 I find it puzzling the amount of game time Goodwin has got since Aziz came back. Nothing against Aziz, but Goodwin can play many roles and the way he played on his debut and next two games, you think that he would have featured more. He must have an injury or something because it does not make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downbylaw Posted March 23, 2012 Report Share Posted March 23, 2012 Your not the only one who is puzzled 11v. Thought he may have got a run tonight or last week (in fact when did he last play?) off the bench to give Behich a breather before finals after his hectic season. His game performance was on par and acceptable. Something must have gone on behind the scenes, disciplinary perhaps or a falling out somewhere along the lines....pure speculation but what else is one to think. Just hope they're not juvenile morons and not playing him in the knowledge that his leaving as our offer is miles apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 I find it puzzling the amount of game time Goodwin has got since Aziz came back. It is hard to understand the logic behind playing Rutger Worm ahead of him, thats for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 It is hard to understand the logic behind playing Rutger Worm ahead of him, thats for sure. i would've played him instead of hamill, even though i have nothing at all agianst hammil. just give him a little bit of an incentive to stay on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 i would've played him instead of hamill Good call. Not just for an incentive, he gives more options off the bench too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dRoy Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 The rumor I heard (Im starting) is that he has already told MHFC that he is leaving at seasons end. so they said thanks we won't play you now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 If Heart sticks to its philosophy of finding and developing young players then suggest we all get used to to seeing this sort of thing happen regularly in the future. While there is a squad cap on numbers we cannot sign all our NYL players once their NYL days are over, even if we wanted to. It just isn't going to happen. Other clubs are always going to be able to poach our boys, just as we will be foolish not to poach theirs. Craig may be good, but there's plenty more where he came from. It would be irresponsible to offer him more than the basic package in his first year. Good luck to the lad if he goes to Newcastle, and I hope it works out well for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Good luck to the lad if he goes to Newcastle, and I hope it works out well for him. nup fuck that. we took him out of a vpl team and raised him to A-League quality. no loyalty these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caganer Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 (edited) nup fuck that. we took him out of a vpl team and raised him to A-League quality. no loyalty these days. "we"? I think Papas probably had a lot to do with that. Edited March 24, 2012 by Caganer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 (edited) nup fuck that. we took him out of a vpl team and raised him to A-League quality. no loyalty these days. Roff. Life lesson : Probs not the greatest option to comment on something, when you know fuck all... EDIT: So, if McDonalds came to you offering you $7.50p/h, you tell me you would stay at your current job at KFC earning $4.50p/h coz your 'loyal'? Edited March 24, 2012 by LR9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dRoy Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 More like going from $15 to $17 with more hours. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 EDIT: So, if McDonalds came to you offering you $7.50p/h, you tell me you would stay at your current job at KFC earning $4.50p/h coz your 'loyal'? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Yes. Wasn't talking to you Busboy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 Wasn't talking to you Busboy! wtf is busboy? You work for the franchise mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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