Unpopular Opinions That You Have.

[Jun]

 

Haha nah it's a little spot called China Red tucked away on Bourke St. In the mall thingy near JB Hifi.

You order everything on touch screens and its out almost instantly. Perfect for lunch or in a hurry

 

Been here a few times with work.. never had dumplings anywhere else so cant compare but my dumpling connoisseur boss enjoys it

 

Dishes at China Red are very hard to top. Didn't know they do yum cha.

TTIM: Happy Kath's review of the "lemon chicken and traditionalness of the sweet and sour pork" http://www.urbanspoon.com/r/71/1541228/restaurant/CBD/China-Red-Melbourne

Edited June 11, 2014 by Jun

[Tesla]

UOTYH:

Soccer is the #1 sport in Australia.

Edited June 13, 2014 by Tesla

[MaliMate]

UOTYH:

Soccer is the #1 sport in Australia.

That's why SEN spent this whole morning talking about ASADA (y)

Edit - you could be right if talking nationwide but no way in Victoria.

Edited June 13, 2014 by MaliMate

[AyeCee]

UOTYH:

Soccer is the #1 sport in Australia.

Certainly becoming that way fast. Still a long way to go though.

[Tesla]

UOTYH:

Soccer is the #1 sport in Australia.

That's why SEN spent this whole morning talking about ASADA (y)

Edit - you could be right if talking nationwide but no way in Victoria.

Well I did say Australia.

What other sporting event has this much interest?

The problem is no one gives a fuck about the socceroos because there is a perception they are shit (which is a correct perception at the moment, but maybe in the past it was incorrect to an extent), and no one gives a fuck about the A-League because there is a perception it's shit (which was probably fair in early years, but now it's a pretty decent league).

But when it comes to EPL, CL, WC, the general population love it, and that's with the shit times games are played.

I've always said if someone invested the money to bring in a well known EPL or CL player to the A-League, it would blow up. Now that's happening with Villa, too bad it's only for a short time, but I'm sure there will still be a surge in A-League interest next season.

The main challenge really is to remove the perception that the A-League is much worse than it really is.

[bazzatron]

The World Cup is popular due to our strong multi-culturalism. So I think football is quietly popular by default, just overshadowed in the media by other sports.

[carlings]

It's popular due to Shakira, J-Lo ect.

[cadete]

The World Cup is popular due to our strong multi-culturalism. So I think football is quietly popular by default, just overshadowed in the media by other sports.

I have said this before but if Soccer was really the most popular sport in Australia it would then take a matter of weeks before the Press started reporting about it more than other sports like AFL in the Southern States and Rugby and NRL in the North.

 

Its simple Supply and Demand - PPL like Rupert Murdoch aren't not going to let there papers report less newsworthy sports for reasons of tradition and bias.

 

You can see it in process from how when I first started seriously following Soccer around 1995 that papers would only devote an article to Soccer here and there (I used to be over the moon as a kid for a photo of a Toons match) as opposed to the Two Page Spread (Often more) the game started to get from the mid 2000's onwards.

 

I think the World Cup is probably Australia's favourite Sports Tournament and I agree with AC that the game is getting there but if/once it becames the nation's favourite sport we certaintly see the Mainstream Press treating it as such...

Edited June 13, 2014 by cadete

[Tesla]

The World Cup is popular due to our strong multi-culturalism.

Also probably makes my opinion biased as the demographics of the people I know and also the people who fill my social media would probably be more multi-cultural than AC, Cad and the general population.

 

The World Cup is popular due to our strong multi-culturalism. So I think football is quietly popular by default, just overshadowed in the media by other sports.

I have said this before but if Soccer was really the most popular sport in Australia it would then take a matter of weeks before the Press started reporting about it more than other sports like AFL in the Southern States and Rugby and NRL in the North.

 

Its simple Supply and Demand - PPL like Rupert Murdoch aren't not going to let there papers report less newsworthy sports for reasons of tradition and bias.

 

You can see it in process from how when I first started seriously following Soccer around 1995 that papers would only devote an article to Soccer here and there (I used to be over the moon as a kid for a photo of a Toons match) as opposed to the Two Page Spread (Often more) the game started to get from the mid 2000's onwards.

 

I think the World Cup is probably Australia's favourite Sports Tournament and I agree with AC that the game is getting there but if/once it becames the nation's favourite sport we certaintly see the Mainstream Press treating it as such...

I agree with you that their decisions will be primarily motivated by economic factors. But you don't factor in that the media in general would prefer for the status quo to remain as that will profit them the most. Obviously as soccer grows they have no option but to give it more attention for the reasons you mention, they will give attention to things that there is demand for hence the massive attention the WC is getting, but their best interests would be better served to give soccer less attention than it deserves due to the more significant investments the media has in other sports and I think that is what happens as a result.

Edited June 13, 2014 by Tesla

[Tesla]

Maybe I should restate my comment.

Soccer is the #1 sport in Australia when the Australian public are provided with moderately easy access to a soccer spicule of sufficient quality.

What would be interesting is if the EPL and CL where on at prime times and available on FTA, I wonder how their TV ratings would compare to AFL (nationwide).

Edited June 13, 2014 by Tesla

[cadete]

 

The World Cup is popular due to our strong multi-culturalism.

Also probably makes my opinion biased as the demographics of the people I know and also the people who fill my social media would probably be more multi-cultural than AC, Cad and the general population.

 

 

The World Cup is popular due to our strong multi-culturalism. So I think football is quietly popular by default, just overshadowed in the media by other sports.

I have said this before but if Soccer was really the most popular sport in Australia it would then take a matter of weeks before the Press started reporting about it more than other sports like AFL in the Southern States and Rugby and NRL in the North.

 

Its simple Supply and Demand - PPL like Rupert Murdoch aren't not going to let there papers report less newsworthy sports for reasons of tradition and bias.

 

You can see it in process from how when I first started seriously following Soccer around 1995 that papers would only devote an article to Soccer here and there (I used to be over the moon as a kid for a photo of a Toons match) as opposed to the Two Page Spread (Often more) the game started to get from the mid 2000's onwards.

 

I think the World Cup is probably Australia's favourite Sports Tournament and I agree with AC that the game is getting there but if/once it becames the nation's favourite sport we certaintly see the Mainstream Press treating it as such...

 

I agree with you that their decisions will be primarily motivated by economic factors. But you don't factor in that the media in general would prefer for the status quo to remain as that will profit them the most. Obviously as soccer grows they have no option but to give it more attention for the reasons you mention, they will give attention to things that there is demand for hence the massive attention the WC is getting, but their best interests would be better served to give soccer less attention than it deserves due to the more significant investments the media has in other sports and I think that is what happens as a result.

 

Yeah - The amount of migrants in The West is incompareable to the rest of Melbourne so it would def distort your views.

 

One indication of how many migrants there are in The West is that the region is almost 50% Catholic compared to rest of Melbourne which sit arounds 25-30%.

[Tesla]

The World Cup is popular due to our strong multi-culturalism.

Also probably makes my opinion biased as the demographics of the people I know and also the people who fill my social media would probably be more multi-cultural than AC, Cad and the general population.

 

The World Cup is popular due to our strong multi-culturalism. So I think football is quietly popular by default, just overshadowed in the media by other sports.

I have said this before but if Soccer was really the most popular sport in Australia it would then take a matter of weeks before the Press started reporting about it more than other sports like AFL in the Southern States and Rugby and NRL in the North.

 

Its simple Supply and Demand - PPL like Rupert Murdoch aren't not going to let there papers report less newsworthy sports for reasons of tradition and bias.

 

You can see it in process from how when I first started seriously following Soccer around 1995 that papers would only devote an article to Soccer here and there (I used to be over the moon as a kid for a photo of a Toons match) as opposed to the Two Page Spread (Often more) the game started to get from the mid 2000's onwards.

 

I think the World Cup is probably Australia's favourite Sports Tournament and I agree with AC that the game is getting there but if/once it becames the nation's favourite sport we certaintly see the Mainstream Press treating it as such...

I agree with you that their decisions will be primarily motivated by economic factors. But you don't factor in that the media in general would prefer for the status quo to remain as that will profit them the most. Obviously as soccer grows they have no option but to give it more attention for the reasons you mention, they will give attention to things that there is demand for hence the massive attention the WC is getting, but their best interests would be better served to give soccer less attention than it deserves due to the more significant investments the media has in other sports and I think that is what happens as a result.

Yeah - The amount of migrants in The West is incompareable to the rest of Melbourne so it would def distort your views.

 

One indication of how many migrants there are in The West is that the region is almost 50% Catholic compared to rest of Melbourne which sit arounds 25-30%.

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or serious?

[cadete]

 

 

 

The World Cup is popular due to our strong multi-culturalism.

Also probably makes my opinion biased as the demographics of the people I know and also the people who fill my social media would probably be more multi-cultural than AC, Cad and the general population.

 

 

The World Cup is popular due to our strong multi-culturalism. So I think football is quietly popular by default, just overshadowed in the media by other sports.

I have said this before but if Soccer was really the most popular sport in Australia it would then take a matter of weeks before the Press started reporting about it more than other sports like AFL in the Southern States and Rugby and NRL in the North.

 

Its simple Supply and Demand - PPL like Rupert Murdoch aren't not going to let there papers report less newsworthy sports for reasons of tradition and bias.

 

You can see it in process from how when I first started seriously following Soccer around 1995 that papers would only devote an article to Soccer here and there (I used to be over the moon as a kid for a photo of a Toons match) as opposed to the Two Page Spread (Often more) the game started to get from the mid 2000's onwards.

 

I think the World Cup is probably Australia's favourite Sports Tournament and I agree with AC that the game is getting there but if/once it becames the nation's favourite sport we certaintly see the Mainstream Press treating it as such...

 

I agree with you that their decisions will be primarily motivated by economic factors. But you don't factor in that the media in general would prefer for the status quo to remain as that will profit them the most. Obviously as soccer grows they have no option but to give it more attention for the reasons you mention, they will give attention to things that there is demand for hence the massive attention the WC is getting, but their best interests would be better served to give soccer less attention than it deserves due to the more significant investments the media has in other sports and I think that is what happens as a result.

 

Yeah - The amount of migrants in The West is incompareable to the rest of Melbourne so it would def distort your views.

 

One indication of how many migrants there are in The West is that the region is almost 50% Catholic compared to rest of Melbourne which sit arounds 25-30%.

 

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or serious?

 

LOL - I am being serious...

 

I deal with the Census at work and the large amount of migrants from Southern/Eastern Europe (And even places in Africa and the Middle East) mean that The West is much more heavily populated with Catholics than elsewhere in Melbourne.

 

FWIW the most Anglo part of Melbourne (And Non Catholic) remains the South...

Edited June 13, 2014 by cadete

[kingofhearts]

UOTYH:

Soccer is the #1 sport in Australia.

Strongly disagree, when talking about any sport that isn't AFL or rugby you need people performing in the best leagues internationally to generate interest in it. Outside of Tim cahill, how many players would an average Australian be able to name in the current socceroos squad?

 

Basketball will be the number 1 sport in Australian in the next 5 years due to all the elite level talent we are now producing. There have always been big numbers playing domestically, but a lot of those basketballers get picked up by one of the footy codes instead of being encouraged to apply their trade overseas. That attitude is slowly changing and we now have more Australian basketball players in the American college system then ever before.

 

Would also like to say theirs been a big change in attitude towards the sport especially in the baby boomer generation. The sport was seen 20 or so years ago as soft and girly but now is something regular talked about in footy clubs where this would've never happened 20 years ago. Soccer gets talked about too but is nowhere near as popular as basketball talk

Edited June 13, 2014 by kingofhearts

[HeartFc]

Look at the sensis stats and you'll see the s.e has a massive number of poms and scots.

[Tesla]

The World Cup is popular due to our strong multi-culturalism.

Also probably makes my opinion biased as the demographics of the people I know and also the people who fill my social media would probably be more multi-cultural than AC, Cad and the general population.

 

The World Cup is popular due to our strong multi-culturalism. So I think football is quietly popular by default, just overshadowed in the media by other sports.

I have said this before but if Soccer was really the most popular sport in Australia it would then take a matter of weeks before the Press started reporting about it more than other sports like AFL in the Southern States and Rugby and NRL in the North.

 

Its simple Supply and Demand - PPL like Rupert Murdoch aren't not going to let there papers report less newsworthy sports for reasons of tradition and bias.

 

You can see it in process from how when I first started seriously following Soccer around 1995 that papers would only devote an article to Soccer here and there (I used to be over the moon as a kid for a photo of a Toons match) as opposed to the Two Page Spread (Often more) the game started to get from the mid 2000's onwards.

 

I think the World Cup is probably Australia's favourite Sports Tournament and I agree with AC that the game is getting there but if/once it becames the nation's favourite sport we certaintly see the Mainstream Press treating it as such...

I agree with you that their decisions will be primarily motivated by economic factors. But you don't factor in that the media in general would prefer for the status quo to remain as that will profit them the most. Obviously as soccer grows they have no option but to give it more attention for the reasons you mention, they will give attention to things that there is demand for hence the massive attention the WC is getting, but their best interests would be better served to give soccer less attention than it deserves due to the more significant investments the media has in other sports and I think that is what happens as a result.

Yeah - The amount of migrants in The West is incompareable to the rest of Melbourne so it would def distort your views.

 

One indication of how many migrants there are in The West is that the region is almost 50% Catholic compared to rest of Melbourne which sit arounds 25-30%.

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or serious?

LOL - I am being serious...

 

I deal with the Census at work and the large amount of migrants from Southern/Eastern Europe (And even places in Africa and the Middle East) mean that The West is much more heavily populated with Catholics than elsewhere in Melbourne.

 

FWIW the most Anglo part of Melbourne (And Non Catholic) remains the South...

The part of the west I refer to is probably even more migrant based than the west in general TBH, I'd say there are a lot more anglos in places like Point Cook, hoppers crossing, etc. than the northern part of the western suburbs (not to be confused with the North West which is a term the western part of the northern suburbs has claimed successful)

Edited June 13, 2014 by Tesla

[Tesla]

Strongly disagree, when talking about any sport that isn't AFL or rugby you need people performing in the best leagues internationally to generate interest in it. Outside of Tim cahill, how many players would an average Australian be able to name in the current socceroos squad?

Probably not many, but I'm sure they could name many players from Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atletico, Bayern Munich, Dortmund, Juventus, PSG, etc.

Which was part of my point, the challenge for the FFA is turning these soccer fans into fans of the Socceroos and the A-League.

 

Basketball will be the number 1 sport in Australian in the next 5 years

Nope.

No doubt a sport that hasn't hit it's potential in Australia yet, but 5 years is too soon for such a dramatic change.

Even though it has broad appeal to our US dominated culture and all the Balkanites who fire up whenever their national basketball team goes on a good run (mainly Serbs).

Edited June 13, 2014 by Tesla

[MaliMate]

Strongly disagree, when talking about any sport that isn't AFL or rugby you need people performing in the best leagues internationally to generate interest in it. Outside of Tim cahill, how many players would an average Australian be able to name in the current socceroos squad?

Probably not many, but I'm sure they could name many players from Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atletico, Bayern Munich, Dortmund, Juventus, PSG, etc.

Which was part of my point, the challenge for the FFA is turning these soccer fans into fans of the Socceroos and the A-League.

Basketball will be the number 1 sport in Australian in the next 5 years

Nope.

No doubt a sport that hasn't hit it's potential in Australia yet, but 5 years is too soon for such a dramatic change.

Even though it has broad appeal to our US dominated culture and all the Balkanites who fire up whenever their national basketball team goes on a good run (mainly Serbs).

I remember faintly that Basketball was massive in the MJ-era (I was only like 5). Died down heaps when I followed it from the late 90's to mid 00's but has resurged. Only have to look at how many flogs wear Derrick Rose/Durant jerseys outside of their house.

[xXJawsaXx]

Basketball is relatively popular, but it goes through highs and lows, there are times where it is a niche sport and times where it is relatively 'mainstream'. At the moment it is on a high, I just have to look at my Social Media to see that. Soccer is a funny sport to talk about in regards to popularity. The A-League is still a young competition and it is far off from reaching it's full potential, however, overseas Soccer is ridiculously popular.

[Tesla]

Strongly disagree, when talking about any sport that isn't AFL or rugby you need people performing in the best leagues internationally to generate interest in it. Outside of Tim cahill, how many players would an average Australian be able to name in the current socceroos squad?

Probably not many, but I'm sure they could name many players from Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atletico, Bayern Munich, Dortmund, Juventus, PSG, etc.

Which was part of my point, the challenge for the FFA is turning these soccer fans into fans of the Socceroos and the A-League.

Basketball will be the number 1 sport in Australian in the next 5 years

Nope.

No doubt a sport that hasn't hit it's potential in Australia yet, but 5 years is too soon for such a dramatic change.

Even though it has broad appeal to our US dominated culture and all the Balkanites who fire up whenever their national basketball team goes on a good run (mainly Serbs).

I remember faintly that Basketball was massive in the MJ-era (I was only like 5). Died down heaps when I followed it from the late 90's to mid 00's but has resurged. Only have to look at how many flogs wear Derrick Rose/Durant jerseys outside of their house.

Only ever really known it to be strongly followed by American wannabes and the occasional person with balkan heritage TBH. Of course there is a fair bit of mainstream following as well, but the stronger followers seem to fall into one of the two categories I mention.

Edited June 13, 2014 by Tesla

[kingofhearts]

 

 

 

Strongly disagree, when talking about any sport that isn't AFL or rugby you need people performing in the best leagues internationally to generate interest in it. Outside of Tim cahill, how many players would an average Australian be able to name in the current socceroos squad?

Probably not many, but I'm sure they could name many players from Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atletico, Bayern Munich, Dortmund, Juventus, PSG, etc.

Which was part of my point, the challenge for the FFA is turning these soccer fans into fans of the Socceroos and the A-League.

Basketball will be the number 1 sport in Australian in the next 5 years

Nope.

No doubt a sport that hasn't hit it's potential in Australia yet, but 5 years is too soon for such a dramatic change.

Even though it has broad appeal to our US dominated culture and all the Balkanites who fire up whenever their national basketball team goes on a good run (mainly Serbs).

 

I remember faintly that Basketball was massive in the MJ-era (I was only like 5). Died down heaps when I followed it from the late 90's to mid 00's but has resurged. Only have to look at how many flogs wear Derrick Rose/Durant jerseys outside of their house.

 

Only ever really known it to be strongly followed by American wannabes and the occasional person with balkan heritage TBH. Of course there is a fair bit of mainstream following as well, but the stronger followers seem to fall into one of the two categories I mention.

 

True, I'd also add that the amount of Africans playing has surged in the last 5 years, compared to when i started coaching to now,most teams would have at least 1-2 Africans playing on it compared to before where there were none. You'd think for most Africans soccer would be the number 1 sport but basketball seems to be taking a hold of this demographic.

 

I was saying the next 5 years due to the fact in the next 5 years Australia will produce most likely 2 out of 5 of the number one draft picks in the NBA and I'm not even including all the potential first round picks that we willl produce. Aussie love sticking it to the yanks, so thats why i reckon it will explode. We're already the number one country outside of America in regards to merchandise sale and NBA league pass so with all the Aussies soon to be in the league there is no reasons it cannot get more popular than AFL and rugby. Maybe 10 years though.

 

I'll agree though their is an embarrassing amount of flogs in NBA snapbacks and sleeveless shirts. The worst are the emo blokes who wear NBA snapbacks and don't even know who the fucking team is

[cadete]

 

 

 

 

Strongly disagree, when talking about any sport that isn't AFL or rugby you need people performing in the best leagues internationally to generate interest in it. Outside of Tim cahill, how many players would an average Australian be able to name in the current socceroos squad?

Probably not many, but I'm sure they could name many players from Man Utd, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Atletico, Bayern Munich, Dortmund, Juventus, PSG, etc.

Which was part of my point, the challenge for the FFA is turning these soccer fans into fans of the Socceroos and the A-League.

Basketball will be the number 1 sport in Australian in the next 5 years

Nope.

No doubt a sport that hasn't hit it's potential in Australia yet, but 5 years is too soon for such a dramatic change.

Even though it has broad appeal to our US dominated culture and all the Balkanites who fire up whenever their national basketball team goes on a good run (mainly Serbs).

 

I remember faintly that Basketball was massive in the MJ-era (I was only like 5). Died down heaps when I followed it from the late 90's to mid 00's but has resurged. Only have to look at how many flogs wear Derrick Rose/Durant jerseys outside of their house.

 

Only ever really known it to be strongly followed by American wannabes and the occasional person with balkan heritage TBH. Of course there is a fair bit of mainstream following as well, but the stronger followers seem to fall into one of the two categories I mention.

 

True, I'd also add that the amount of Africans playing has surged in the last 5 years, compared to when i started coaching to now,most teams would have at least 1-2 Africans playing on it compared to before where there were none. You'd think for most Africans soccer would be the number 1 sport but basketball seems to be taking a hold of this demographic.

 

I was saying the next 5 years due to the fact in the next 5 years Australia will produce most likely 2 out of 5 of the number one draft picks in the NBA and I'm not even including all the potential first round picks that we willl produce. Aussie love sticking it to the yanks, so thats why i reckon it will explode. We're already the number one country outside of America in regards to merchandise sale and NBA league pass so with all the Aussies soon to be in the league there is no reasons it cannot get more popular than AFL and rugby. Maybe 10 years though.

 

I'll agree though their is an embarrassing amount of flogs in NBA snapbacks and sleeveless shirts. The worst are the emo blokes who wear NBA snapbacks and don't even know who the fucking team is

 

If you were around at the height of Basketball in Australia from 1992-1995 you would quickly realise how silly your statement sounds because you would realise how the sports profile as we speak is non existent compared to right now.

 

So there is no way possible that in just five years it will be the Nation's most popular sport...

 

It wasnt even close to being the nations most popular sport in 1993 when all 90 of the boys in year five at my school wore Basketball Boots every weekend, Rod Laver was being sold out for Tigers vs Magic games, and PPL lined up to play NBA Jam at Timezone.

[Tesla]

True, I'd also add that the amount of Africans playing has surged in the last 5 years, compared to when i started coaching to now,most teams would have at least 1-2 Africans playing on it compared to before where there were none. You'd think for most Africans soccer would be the number 1 sport but basketball seems to be taking a hold of this demographic.

If you lived in an area with a lot of Africans, you would not be surprised by this. They're generally the biggest American wannabes you'll find. But yes, they'll be some great benefits to both the national soccer and basketball teams due to the surge in Africans coming to Australia.

Actually, thinking about it, have you seen many junior soccer clubs recently? I don't think basketball is winning the battle for that demographic at all, the junior soccer teams are doing quite well as well.

[TOPCAT]

My old soccer club is now a full African club. Not one white man on the team.

[cadete]

 

True, I'd also add that the amount of Africans playing has surged in the last 5 years, compared to when i started coaching to now,most teams would have at least 1-2 Africans playing on it compared to before where there were none. You'd think for most Africans soccer would be the number 1 sport but basketball seems to be taking a hold of this demographic.

If you lived in an area with a lot of Africans, you would not be surprised by this. They're generally the biggest American wannabes you'll find. But yes, they'll be some great benefits to both the national soccer and basketball teams due to the surge in Africans coming to Australia.

Actually, thinking about it, have you seen many junior soccer clubs recently? I don't think basketball is winning the battle for that demographic at all, the junior soccer teams are doing quite well as well.

 

Basketball has always performed very well at a representative level since the 1970's because its a Sport that is played Indoor and on a small field and both sexes and due to its minimal contact by a lot different ages groups.

 

However this should not be confused with Supporter Levels because besides the late 80's/early to mid 90's the sport has always struggle to turn these numbers into Supporters of the game. The same can be said with the most played sport in Australia of Netball.

 

Soccer has improved a lot but in many places still does very poorly in the way in allowing juniors access to the sport.

 

As far Support goes Soccer has Basketball covered and more to the point has always had a strong small Supporter Base in the Australian Community which in the past 15 years has been built on in a steady manner indicating long term support as opposed to the what happend with the Baasketball Boom.

 

Edited June 13, 2014 by cadete

[MaliMate]

UOTYH: NBL is one of the best basketball leagues in the world and is great to watch. For those who say the standard is shit don't forget Patty Mills wasn't tearing the league up 2 -3 years ago during the lockout. Fast forward and he's draining 3's in the NBA finals.

[kingofhearts]

 

True, I'd also add that the amount of Africans playing has surged in the last 5 years, compared to when i started coaching to now,most teams would have at least 1-2 Africans playing on it compared to before where there were none. You'd think for most Africans soccer would be the number 1 sport but basketball seems to be taking a hold of this demographic.

If you lived in an area with a lot of Africans, you would not be surprised by this. They're generally the biggest American wannabes you'll find. But yes, they'll be some great benefits to both the national soccer and basketball teams due to the surge in Africans coming to Australia.

Actually, thinking about it, have you seen many junior soccer clubs recently? I don't think basketball is winning the battle for that demographic at all, the junior soccer teams are doing quite well as well.

 

Yeah i wouldn't know tbh, the closest i get to junior soccer these days is taking my younger brother to action indoor to play indoor soccer and thats generally anglo central 

 

@Cadete wasn't alive back then and maybe getting a little ahead of myself by saying basketball will ever be more popular than the footy codes but in 5 years maybe it will be more popular than that period in 1992-1995? We now actually have some good Aussie players to cheer for instead of back then and with technology it is the way now compared to back then it's so much more easier to access and keep up to date with.

[cadete]

 

 

True, I'd also add that the amount of Africans playing has surged in the last 5 years, compared to when i started coaching to now,most teams would have at least 1-2 Africans playing on it compared to before where there were none. You'd think for most Africans soccer would be the number 1 sport but basketball seems to be taking a hold of this demographic.

If you lived in an area with a lot of Africans, you would not be surprised by this. They're generally the biggest American wannabes you'll find. But yes, they'll be some great benefits to both the national soccer and basketball teams due to the surge in Africans coming to Australia.

Actually, thinking about it, have you seen many junior soccer clubs recently? I don't think basketball is winning the battle for that demographic at all, the junior soccer teams are doing quite well as well.

 

Yeah i wouldn't know tbh, the closest i get to junior soccer these days is taking my younger brother to action indoor to play indoor soccer and thats generally anglo central 

 

@Cadete wasn't alive back then and maybe getting a little ahead of myself by saying basketball will ever be more popular than the footy codes but in 5 years maybe it will be more popular than that period in 1992-1995? We now actually have some good Aussie players to cheer for instead of back then and with technology it is the way now compared to back then it's so much more easier to access and keep up to date with.

 

Its a long way off what the sport was in say 1989/1990 when it was the rise... its too hard for me to explain to you how great the impact that Michael Jordan had on equally the Sporting and Advertising Landscape without being around when his Cult was at height.

 

He was the best Advertisment for anything that I have ever seen... which in Australia included Basketball and sadly also just American Culture in general. The guy could have sold anything to anyone.

 

A handful of good Australian NBA players will probably bring more fans to the sport... but even if one was the best player in the NBA they are not going to match the power that Jordan was as a Advertisment for the game.

Edited June 13, 2014 by cadete

[Baresi]

UOTYH: NBL is one of the best basketball leagues in the world and is great to watch. For those who say the standard is shit don't forget Patty Mills wasn't tearing the league up 2 -3 years ago during the lockout. Fast forward and he's draining 3's in the NBA finals.

Went to some Tigers games in the seasons before Patty was here, and even while he played here, and found it rather unenjoyable.

I love the sport, but get really annoyed by the b-ball atmosphere.

[hedaik]

Defence ch ch ch

[cadete]

It doesnt help that scores in the NBL are sometime 40% less than they were in the 90's...

 

I am sure there is a good reason for this that a real fan would point out to me but for a casual observer of the sport it doesnt make me want to watch more of the game.

[Tesla]

UOTYH: Hulk is the #1 alpha male in world football.

Yeah, Ronaldo is up there, with his better footballing ability, more money, good looks, obviously had his fair share of super models. But his constant need for attention is a bit gay. He is more of a wolf than a lion.

Sure, Messi is a better player, but he is a midget and looks like he would be the biggest passive aggressive loser kunt. Plus no one likes some middle class Argentinian becoming one of the world's best footballers, that's not a good story.

Neymar just looks like a fuckwit that you want to hit.

Zlatan's definitely a boss, but his from Sweden, a country full of nerds.

Hulk, on the other hand, grew up in some poverty country town in Brazil, eating dirt to survive, watching his friends get murdered, and learning to play football barefoot on concrete 'pitches'. Leaves Brazil to go play in Japan, because he is a smart kunt. Just look at the guy, he wouldn't even need any technical ability to dominate a bunch of scrawny Japanese fucks. Of course, as well all know he then caught the attention of porto, eventually broke into the side and went on to dominate like the boss he is. But the best bit is what happens next. Good enough to play for any team in the world, could accumulate a wall full of trophies, get all that recognition, prance around in a barca/real shirt thinking his some male model, etc. But instead he goes to Zenit. Why? Because he does not give a fuck. All he cares about is the money. His pocketing all them ill-gotten gazprom millions, living the life of a tsar, probably has an army of peasants working for him.

Hulk :clap:

[MaliMate]

It doesnt help that scores in the NBL are sometime 40% less than they were in the 90's...

I am sure there is a good reason for this that a real fan would point out to me but for a casual observer of the sport it doesnt make me want to watch more of the game.

10 minute quarters. Then also add the fact that because the quarters are shorter, the teams are less likely to go in the penalty hence less fouls and less clock stopping.

[MaliMate]

UOTYH: Hulk is the #1 alpha male in world football.

Yeah, Ronaldo is up there, with his better footballing ability, more money, good looks, obviously had his fair share of super models. But his constant need for attention is a bit gay. He is more of a wolf than a lion.

Sure, Messi is a better player, but he is a midget and looks like he would be the biggest passive aggressive loser kunt. Plus no one likes some middle class Argentinian becoming one of the world's best footballers, that's not a good story.

Neymar just looks like a fuckwit that you want to hit.

Zlatan's definitely a boss, but his from Sweden, a country full of nerds.

Hulk, on the other hand, grew up in some poverty country town in Brazil, eating dirt to survive, watching his friends get murdered, and learning to play football barefoot on concrete 'pitches'. Leaves Brazil to go play in Japan, because he is a smart kunt. Just look at the guy, he wouldn't even need any technical ability to dominate a bunch of scrawny Japanese fucks. Of course, as well all know he then caught the attention of porto, eventually broke into the side and went on to dominate like the boss he is. But the best bit is what happens next. Good enough to play for any team in the world, could accumulate a wall full of trophies, get all that recognition, prance around in a barca/real shirt thinking his some male model, etc. But instead he goes to Zenit. Why? Because he does not give a fuck. All he cares about is the money. His pocketing all them ill-gotten gazprom millions, living the life of a tsar, probably has an army of peasants working for him.

Hulk :clap:

some of your finest work.

[cadete]

 

UOTYH: Hulk is the #1 alpha male in world football.

Yeah, Ronaldo is up there, with his better footballing ability, more money, good looks, obviously had his fair share of super models. But his constant need for attention is a bit gay. He is more of a wolf than a lion.

Sure, Messi is a better player, but he is a midget and looks like he would be the biggest passive aggressive loser kunt. Plus no one likes some middle class Argentinian becoming one of the world's best footballers, that's not a good story.

Neymar just looks like a fuckwit that you want to hit.

Zlatan's definitely a boss, but his from Sweden, a country full of nerds.

Hulk, on the other hand, grew up in some poverty country town in Brazil, eating dirt to survive, watching his friends get murdered, and learning to play football barefoot on concrete 'pitches'. Leaves Brazil to go play in Japan, because he is a smart kunt. Just look at the guy, he wouldn't even need any technical ability to dominate a bunch of scrawny Japanese fucks. Of course, as well all know he then caught the attention of porto, eventually broke into the side and went on to dominate like the boss he is. But the best bit is what happens next. Good enough to play for any team in the world, could accumulate a wall full of trophies, get all that recognition, prance around in a barca/real shirt thinking his some male model, etc. But instead he goes to Zenit. Why? Because he does not give a fuck. All he cares about is the money. His pocketing all them ill-gotten gazprom millions, living the life of a tsar, probably has an army of peasants working for him.

Hulk :clap:

some of your finest work.

 

Prob even went to a Grammar School.

Edited June 13, 2014 by cadete

[hedaik]

People don't have the right to torrent/download copyrighted media just because they don't like how much it costs. Producers of content have a right to charge whatever they want for their product. 

[cadete]

Tom Wolf > Hunter S Thompson.

[theresonlyonebzamora]

Tom Wolf > Hunter S Thompson.

 

sacrilege!

 

bonfire of the vanities vs fear and loathing in las vegas? although i admit the man-love/obsession for HST is a bit tedious (how dare people like things!), his early journo-based stuff was a lot better than much of his output.

 

charles bukowski > hunter s thompson

[cadete]

 

Tom Wolf > Hunter S Thompson.

 

sacrilege!

 

bonfire of the vanities vs fear and loathing in las vegas? although i admit the man-love/obsession for HST is a bit tedious (how dare people like things!), his early journo-based stuff was a lot better than much of his output.

 

charles bukowski > hunter s thompson

 

I def rate Bonfire as a better book than Fear and Loathing... the research and detail put into it is crazy.

 

Wolf's Non Fiction stuff I also rate as a lot sharper and more accurate than Thompson's... and I am not saying this because of my Political Views I am purely focusing on Wolf's ability to critique all parts of Society so well.

 

Dont get me wrong I like Thompson... but I prefer Wolf.

[theresonlyonebzamora]

It's interesting how the output of the two have been somewhat similar.

 

They are both excellent writers and there is no doubt Wolfe is probably a better or at least more polished author but i think HST's detail in F&L at least is far superior. Plus Wolfe was never really a journalist AFAIK, he was coming from a more academic background wasn't he? I dunno, it's been a long time since I read Bonfire...

 

Also thought FWIW the Electric Kool-Aid Test was better than Bonfire but that was more along the lines of F&L/Hells Angels anyway as that was Wolfe's 'drug' book and Bonfire... was the political book (compared with HST's early Nixon work)