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Yep, how about that Omnibus bill he is trying to get through? https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6936289/vic-covid-19-bill-powers-worry-qcs-judges/

Strange it seems the whole thing is the same worldwide? Ireland is the same, America is the same, Australia the information is restricted.

The vote of no confidence against Andrews is not good, he will win and you can only do it once a term. He had to wheel and deal to get extensions on his powers, those that capitulated won't get what they wanted if he get's kicked out, the only avenue of getting rid of the despot will be through the Governor and she is supporting him. On a side note, the government site won't let you see flue deaths other than 2020, anything prior is restricted. https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/ozflu-surveil-no12-19.htm#current It's just a flue. https://www.sonichealthplus.com.au/health-hub/flu/item/2019-flu-season-2nd-worst-on-record That is with a developed vaccine over many years. https://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/abs@.nsf/Lookup/by Subject/3303.0~2017~Main Features~Deaths due to influenza~5 compare: https://www.health.gov.au/resources/covid-19-deaths-by-age-group-and-sex look at icu cases, does that say pandemic to you? look at aged care cases? https://www.health.gov.au/news/health-alerts/novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov-health-alert/coronavirus-covid-19-current-situation-and-case-numbers#total-cases-recoveries-deaths-and-new-cases-in-the-last-24-hours And we are imprisoned for this?

Spot on

Jeff Kennet also closed the infectious disease facility in Fairfield in 1994. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairfield_Infectious_Diseases_Hospital

Why couldn't we follow the Taiwan model? they haven't locked down at all, admittedly they are at war with China so no Chinese carriers came into their country, South Korea has followed pretty similar rules. Protect the old and infirm, contact tracing and just get on with things.

old school stuff

I don't think the corona is all it's made out to be. All deaths beside 4 have been over the age of 80, theses dudes will have had health issues any way, I just don't understand it. Andrews saying that we need to get to single figures...NZ had 0 Cases for how long and still they have suddenly had recorded cases. My postulation is that there will always be cases, it's similar to the flue, we don't need to ruin our economy over the flue, protect those that need protecting and get on with things. Also working a physical job with a mask is frustrating, half the dudes have a smoke just to have the mask off. I have been all over Melbourne, driving trucks and utes delivering thing's, each worksite ha different rules. The other day I had to fill out a form and it asked if we car poolled, we did from the factory, you can't expect a single person to manoeuvre 100kg of glass on his own. The next day we had to go in separate cars, but if we had of got there with glass, two people in the same vehicle would have been ok.

I have worked all this time (since March), it's really starting to shit me, I can understand why people want to protest (I can't imagine those who have lost their jobs) and they should be able to.

'in time of public emergency ' The fact is that Andrew's has extended the state of disaster/emergency, he can do what ever he likes, already he wants to add extra time on our lockdown. I can't believe a greens came out of maternity leave to vote, if she didn't we would be free right now, instead we are effectively in gaol, I have been in gaol and it's like a gaol farm, say Beechworth, the difference is it's the whole state, not naughty boys.

The constitution say's we have a right to peaceful protests. As far as vic laws go. https://www.ag.gov.au/rights-and-protections/human-rights-and-anti-discrimination/human-rights-scrutiny/public-sector-guidance-sheets/right-freedom-assembly-and-association A total about face when BLM were announced, want to protest against your freedoms and face the full front of the law. I work 5-7 day's a week, essential worker non the less. I go home and on the way buy some groceries, it seems that's my lot in life. I was feeling a bit peckish the other night, I looked at my watch and it was 8.10pm, I couldn't even go and get food for myself 'because i was in gaol' by my state representative. As I said I work, I wouldn't mind going for a ride on my motorbike after work or on the weekend, but there is a 5 km limit. Fuck it off, I will be socially distanced with a helmet ffs. I wouldn't mind going fishing with my mate, no go apparently, Andrews has put his foot down. If you are not angered that people are getting arrested for wanting to protest (when both the police and the Andrews government was ok wit BLM), then you have a problem with ethics.

The constitution say's we have a right to peaceful protests. A total about face when BLM were announced, want to protest against your freedoms and face the full front of the law.

Give him a go, at least he is Aussie. I'd still rather Papas, it is what it is.

Would be a blow to loose him

I'll take that as a compliment.

Jesus, I trawled a page or two, I don't remember the convo. In other news, a Woman in Stage three restrictions was raided and arrested for wanting to protest about the stage 4 restrictions us metropolitans are going through. Do people realise that the Flue is a strain of corona virus? Do people realise that the death rate in Australia for the flue v corona is very similar. Do people realise that a vaccination is a short term silver bullet? Just like the flue, corona will mutate and vaccines will be obsolete. Do people understand how evolution works? Since China released/covered it up, it is here now, we have to live with it and it will never go away, just like the flue. The major exponent of evolution is virus, they take DNA from us (hence the mutations) and they deposit their own DNA in place of, talk of a vaccine is futile. If we keep locking people up because of case numbers it will never end, because of mutations, there will always be positives, just like people keep getting the flue.

I have a soft spot for him, early in the season he really stepped up and made a big difference, I still see that tenacity. Sure we could do better though Anyway night all, got to be up at 5 am. The future is bright and we nearly got there.

that would be a dream

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On a bright side Glover was immense, he could be a really good player for us, Atkinson showed teckers as well as Widybitch, Luna and Brialante.

Not up to it, because Wales was focused on, but atm they both fall short. I wonder what he would be like getting the game time Wales did?

that's what we need

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