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  1. 4 hours ago, Harrison said:

    Well if this isn’t proof that the whole thing is a hoax, I don’t know what is. A masked guy standing in an equipment room of a hospital somewhere in a southern US state talking about a fake virus that’s ‘killed’ only 177,000 people. Wake the fuck up people.

    The smoking gun comes at 11:40 in the video. This brave doctor/therapist says ‘this is a deep state, Illuminati stuff.’ 

    True courage. Watch him go missing now. Probably already happened. The video cuts off right before he is about to blow the lid off the ‘vaccination’ hoax too. Suspicious.

    I’m betting all of my money on him turning up dead on the shore of one of Bill Gates’ islands. 

    The whole thing is a set up, and as a medical scientist I totally agree with everything this guy is saying due to what I observe on a daily basis.

    There is no virus, there are no deaths, there is no scientific proof that this pandemic is real and it all points to an agenda on a scale that the world has never seen before, that is, a propaganda machine that instills fear so that citizens blindly accept whatever the government is offering.

    Wake up!

    The UN and WHO has used China over the last 50 years to refine the blueprints for the NWO through the Chinese Communist Party, and what you are witnessing is their attempt to take away your human rights and enslave you physically and spiritually.

    There is a silent war going on and there is a strong resistant fighting against this move, hence all the high profile arrests/deaths around the world, all the human and child trafficking cartels being brought down on a daily basis.

    Don't be blinded by the MSM, the morons in the media and film/music industry, and Communist Left in this country and around the world, they are all part of it and hence the unrelenting propaganda.

    Don't give up your human rights.

    Assume that everything you understand is wrong and look at the world with a renewed mind (No preconceived bias) as you will see more clearly so to establish truth.

    Please take the time to watch this video as it will help you further understand the things the way they truly are.

     

    On 19/04/2020 at 6:53 PM, HeartFc said:

    Ye I know about Bill Gates and his dodgy vaccines

    And he is coming after you and your family if he gets his way.

    Make no mistake.

     

    29 minutes ago, bt50 said:

    I think quite clearly I'm asking the question of at what cost are you prepared to 'eliminate' the virus, making mention of the side-effects that come into play by doing so. The only opinion i'm expressing is the need for careful thought when dealing with the situation at hand.

    The

    Fake propaganda is the virus

    and

    Fear is the sickness.

  2. 22 hours ago, HeartFc said:

    More and more evidence coming out pointing to a Wuhan lab leak. 

    More and more evidence point to this being some evil global social experiment with fake news, fake stats and fake science being peddled at an unprecedented rate.

     

    The journalist and politicians are all of a sudden are more experts in the fields of medical science than scientist, and the WHO and UN are peddling their fake stats to support their move to a one world health system that will push their dirty vaccines, and silence and ostracize anyone that doesn't follow their fake narrative.

    GATESDEPOPULATIONVACCINES

    Bill Gates’ Vaccine Crime Record: 496,000 Paralyzed Children In India And More

    HAFApril 18, 2020

    Indian doctors blame Gates for a devastating vaccine-strain polio epidemic that paralyzed 496,000 children between 2000 and 2017. In 2017, the Indian Government dialled back Gates’ vaccine regimen and evicted Gates. Polio paralysis rates dropped precipitously.

    by Llewellyn H. Rockwell, Jr.

    “Vaccines, for Bill Gates, are a strategic philanthropy that feed his many vaccine-related businesses (including Microsoft’s ambition to control a global vac ID enterprise) and give him dictatorial control over global health policy – the spear tip of corporate neo-imperialism.

    Gates’ obsession with vaccines seems fueled by a messianic conviction that he is ordained to save the world with technology and a god-like willingness to experiment with the lives of lesser humans.

    Promising to eradicate Polio with $1.2 billion, Gates took control of India ‘s National Advisory Board (NAB) and mandated 50 polio vaccines (up from 5) to every child before age 5.

    Indian doctors blame the Gates campaign for a devastating vaccine-strain polio epidemic that paralyzed 496,000 children between 2000 and 2017.

    In 2017, the Indian Government dialed back Gates’ vaccine regimen and evicted Gates and his cronies from the NAB. Polio paralysis rates dropped precipitously.

    Evicted? Why not arrested & tried in a Court of Laws for Crime Against Humanity? The following hashtag is trending on social media: #jailBillGates

    In 2017, the World Health Organization reluctantly admitted that the global polio explosion is predominantly vaccine strain, meaning it is coming from Gates’ Vaccine Program.

    The most frightening epidemics in Congo, the Philippines, and Afghanistan are all linked to Gates’ vaccines. By 2018, ¾ of global polio cases were from Gates’ vaccines.

    In 2014, the Gates Foundation funded tests of experimental HPV vaccines, developed by GSK and Merck, on 23,000 young girls in remote Indian provinces.

    Approximately 1,200 suffered severe side effects, including autoimmune and fertility disorders.

    Seven died. Indian government investigations charged that Gates funded researchers committed pervasive ethical violations: pressuring vulnerable village girls into the trial, bullying parents, forging consent forms, and refusing medical care to the injured girls.

    The case is now in the country’s Supreme Court.

    In 2010, the Gates Foundation funded a trial of a GSK’s experimental malaria vaccine, killing 151 African infants and causing serious adverse effects including paralysis, seizure, and febrile convulsions to 1,048 of the 5,049 children.

    During Gates 2002 MenAfriVac Campaign in Sub-Saharan Africa, Gates operatives forcibly vaccinated thousands of African children against meningitis.

    Between 50-500 children developed paralysis. South African newspapers complained, “We are guinea pigs for drug makers.” Nelson Mandela’s former Senior Economist, Professor Patrick Bond, describes Gates’ philanthropic practises as “ruthless” and immoral”.

    In 2010, Gates committed $ 10 billion to the WHO promising to reduce population, in part, through new vaccines. A month later Gates told a Ted Talk that new vaccines “could reduce population”.

    In 2014, Kenya’s Catholic Doctors Association accused the WHO of chemically sterilizing millions of unwilling Kenyan women with a phoney “tetanus” vaccine campaign.

    Independent labs found the sterility formula in every vaccine tested. After denying the charges, WHO finally admitted it had been developing the sterility vaccines for over a decade.

    Similar accusations came from Tanzania, Nicaragua, Mexico and the Philippines.

    A 2017 study (Morgensen et.Al.2017) showed that WHO’s popular DTP is killing more African than the disease it pretends to prevent. Vaccinated girls suffered 10x the death rate of unvaccinated children.

    Gates and the WHO refused to recall the lethal vaccine which WHO forces upon millions of African children annually.

    Global public health advocates around the world accuse Gates of – hijacking WHO’s agenda away from the projects that are proven to curb infectious diseases; clean water, hygiene, nutrition and economic development.

    They say he has diverted agency resources to serve his personal fetish – that good health only comes in a syringe.

    In addition to using his philanthropy to control WHO, UNICEF, GAVI and PATH, Gates funds private pharmaceutical companies that manufacture vaccines, and a massive network of pharmaceutical -industry front groups that broadcast deceptive propaganda, develop fraudulent studies, conduct surveillance and psychological operations against vaccine hesitancy and use Gates’ power and money to silence dissent and coerce compliance.

    In this recent nonstop Pharmedia appearances, Gates appears gleeful that the Covid-19 crisis will give him the opportunity to force his third-world vaccine programs on American children.”

    An interesting interview 

     

     

     

  3. 5 hours ago, jw1739 said:

    I would have said that without some "new pathogen" it's very hard to explain the sudden massive death rate in various countries. However, it doesn't really matter to me whether it's "new" or "old" - a lot of people are dying, health services cannot cope, and economies everywhere are collapsing. Isn't that the real issue?

    Put your mind at ease JW. 

    There is something much bigger happening atm which the MSM don't want you to know because it involves all of them.

    Hence the fear campaign.

    Evil on a mass scale has been averted. 

    All will be revealed and more.

    A lot of people will not be able to cope with the truth.

    Lockdown is necessary, the battle is right beneath our feet.

    God bless the victims.

    We need to sit, be patient, pray and stay out of the way.

     

  4. 27 March 2020

    Manufactured Pandemic: Testing People for Any Strain of a Coronavirus, Not Specifically for COVID-19

    By Julian Rose

    The following is from a medical forum. The writer, who is a widely respected professional scientist in the US, prefers to stay anonymous, because presenting any narrative different than the official one can cause you a lot of stress in the toxic environment caused by the scam which surrounds COVID-19 these days. – Julian Rose
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    I work in the healthcare field. Here’s the problem, we are testing people for any strain of a Coronavirus. Not specifically for COVID-19. There are no reliable tests for a specific COVID-19 virus. There are no reliable agencies or media outlets for reporting numbers of actual COVID-19 virus cases. This needs to be addressed first and foremost. Every action and reaction to COVID-19 is based on totally flawed data and we simply can not make accurate assessments.
    This is why you’re hearing that most people with COVID-19 are showing nothing more than cold/flu like symptoms. That’s because most Coronavirus strains are nothing more than cold/flu like symptoms. The few actual novel Coronavirus cases do have some worse respiratory responses, but still have a very promising recovery rate, especially for those without prior issues.
    The ‘gold standard’ in testing for COVID-19 is laboratory isolated/purified coronavirus particles free from any contaminants and particles that look like viruses but are not, that have been proven to be the cause of the syndrome known as COVID-19 and obtained by using proper viral isolation methods and controls (not the PCR that is currently being used or Serology /antibody tests which do not detect virus as such). PCR basically takes a sample of your cells and amplifies any DNA to look for ‘viral sequences’, i.e. bits of non-human DNA that seem to match parts of a known viral genome.
    The problem is the test is known not to work.
    It uses ‘amplification’ which means taking a very very tiny amount of DNA and growing it exponentially until it can be analyzed. Obviously any minute contaminations in the sample will also be amplified leading to potentially gross errors of discovery.
    Additionally, it’s only looking for partial viral sequences, not whole genomes, so identifying a single pathogen is next to impossible even if you ignore the other issues.
    The Mickey Mouse test kits being sent out to hospitals, at best, tell analysts you have some viral DNA in your cells.


    Which most of us do, most of the time. It may tell you the viral sequence is related to a specific type of virus – say the huge family of coronavirus. But that’s all. The idea these kits can isolate a specific virus like COVID-19 is nonsense.
    And that’s not even getting into the other issue – viral load.
    If you remember the PCR works by amplifying minute amounts of DNA. It therefore is useless at telling you how much virus you may have. And that’s the only question that really matters when it comes to diagnosing illness. Everyone will have a few virus kicking round in their system at any time, and most will not cause illness because their quantities are too small. For a virus to sicken you you need a lot of it, a massive amount of it. But PCR does not test viral load and therefore can’t determine if it is present in sufficient quantities to sicken you.
    If you feel sick and get a PCR test any random virus DNA might be identified even if they aren’t at all involved in your sickness which leads to false diagnosis.
    And coronavirus are incredibly common. A large percentage of the world human population will have covi DNA in them in small quantities even if they are perfectly well or sick with some other pathogen.
    Do you see where this is going yet? If you want to create a totally false panic about a totally false pandemic – pick a coronavirus.
    They are incredibly common and there’s tons of them. A very high percentage of people who have become sick by other means (flu, bacterial pneumonia, anything) will have a positive
    PCR test for covi even if you’re doing them properly and ruling out contamination, simply because covis are so common.
    There are hundreds of thousands of flu and pneumonia victims in hospitals throughout the world at any one time.
    All you need to do is select the sickest of these in a single location – say Wuhan – administer PCR tests to them and claim anyone showing viral sequences similar to a coronavirus (which will inevitably be quite a few) is suffering from a ‘new’ disease.
    Since you already selected the sickest flu cases a fairly high proportion of your sample will go on to die.
    You can then say this ‘new’ virus has a CFR higher than the flu and use this to infuse more concern and do more tests which will of course produce more ‘cases’, which expands the testing, which produces yet more ‘cases’ and so on and so on.
    Before long you have your ‘pandemic’, and all you have done is use a simple test kit trick to convert the worst flu and pneumonia cases into something new that doesn’t actually exist.
    Now just run the same scam in other countries. Making sure to keep the fear message running high so that people will feel panicky and less able to think critically.
    Your only problem is going to be that – due to the fact there is no actual new deadly pathogen but just regular sick people, you are mislabeling your case numbers, and especially your deaths, are going to be way too low for a real new deadly virus pandemic.
    But you can stop people pointing this out in several ways.

    1. You can claim this is just the beginning and more deaths are imminent. Use this as an excuse to quarantine everyone and then claim the quarantine prevented the expected millions of dead.
    2. You can tell people that ‘minimizing’ the dangers is irresponsible and bully them into not talking about numbers.
    3. You can talk crap about made up numbers hoping to blind people with pseudoscience.
    4. You can start testing well people (who, of course, will also likely have shreds of coronavirus DNA in them) and thus inflate your ‘case figures’ with ‘asymptomatic carriers’ (you will of course have to spin that to sound deadly even though any virologist knows the more symptom-less cases you have the less deadly is your pathogen.

    Take these 4 simple steps and you can have your own entirely manufactured pandemic up and running in weeks.
    They can not “confirm” something for which there is no accurate test

  5. Interesting read

    China’s Version of GPS Soon to be Fully Integrated With Its Military Weapons
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/chinas-version-of-gps-soon-to-be-fully-integrated-with-its-military-weapons_3296991.html

     

    The Chinese Communist Party controlled UN Wants a 10% Global Tax to Pay for New "Shared Responsibility" Program to Address Coronavirus Pandemic 

     

     When you give certain types of people the power to take civil liberties, they will do so with relish. Australians need to appreciate how easily rights can be taken and why we need to fight for them. Civil liberties aren't "right wing," they're a prerequisite of a free society.

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  6. 1 hour ago, jw1739 said:

    It wouldn't mean that I would relax my present "isolation" efforts

    I think this lockdown event is quite liberating tbh and great things are coming out of it for example, going for walks for exercise which results in meeting neighbours and chatting with them while they are gardening in their front yard, having more time with family and getting out in the garden and doing chores together that usually bank up as a rushed event for weekends.

    Even though my hours have only been reduced by only a half, I am definitely noticing a positive.

    Also my neighbour baked us some cookies and said he has been reading the Holy Bible for the first time in years and he said it is bringing him so much peace.

    I think the best thing everyone can do is switch off the MSM and get outside as there is so much we don't do normally that we can do now.

    Maybe a good opportunity for everyone to re-evaluation what is important.

     

  7. 21 hours ago, NuggetsMcGreggor said:

    Silvio Brusaferro is also NOT the Italian Health Minister

    No you are right he is actually the leading authority and spokesperson for the Italian government

    President of the Institute [Istituto Superiore di Sanità (ISS), Italian National Institute of Health], Silvio Brusaferro, during the press conference held today at the Civil Protection in Rome. 

    Sorry I down graded his role as he is far more important than the Health minister.

    19 hours ago, belaguttman said:

    MK Ultra, the website that believes in CIA mass mind control and lizard people running the world

    So instead of looking at the report and seeing that they posted the official reports from both the author's YouTube channels you respond with this!

    Ok I will make it easier for you, here are the two videos

    at 1min 21s

    at 23s

    Same props in exactly the same places,  same patients, same nurse in green, same room, same doors.

     

  8. https://www.ilpost.it/2020/01/13/meningite-bergamo/

    Translated

    13th January 2020

    In recent weeks, four cases of meningitis have been reported in several municipalities in the area between Bergamo and Brescia in Lombardy, which resulted in the death of two people. The risk of further infections has been reduced thanks to the intervention of local health authorities and there is currently no epidemic, as confirmed by the regional government. The news circulated in the early days had however generated considerable alarmism, in turn amplified by social networks and intense coverage of newspapers.

    Meningitis is a disease of the central nervous system that leads to severe inflammation of the meninges, the membranes that envelop the brain (brain) and spinal cord. The causes of meningitis can be of various types, but the most recurrent ones are due to infections with particular viruses and bacteria. Left untreated, meningitis can cause permanent neurological damage and in severe cases even death. In Italy there are about two hundred cases of meningitis every year, and the most common are due to the type B and C of the disease. For both there are vaccines that prevent the risk of contracting the disease, but they are not mandatory.

    The cases found between Brescia and Bergamo concerned type C of meningitis. According to the Higher Institute of Health, the technical-scientific body of the National Health Service, there were four cases between 2 December 2019 and 2 January 2020. The first three in Villongo, a town in the province of Bergamo very close on Lake Iseo, two girls aged 19 and 16 and a 36-year-old man were involved. The third case, in particular, occurred around Christmas days, which generated some unrest over the holiday season.

    The last two patients survived, while the 19-year-old died on December 3, just one day after showing the first symptoms. The fourth case was recorded in Predore, about ten kilometers east: a 48-year-old woman died on January 3 a few hours after being admitted to the Brescia hospital.

    Corriere della Sera wrote that news of the four cases resulted in "the assault on the area's health centers" and "the exhaustion of vaccine supplies", leading "to the opening of extraordinary clinics and the request for supplies and reinforcements to immunize the population under 60 free of charge ». Local newspapers have reported several queues to get vaccinated, while the parish of Villongo has decided not to invite the faithful to the "exchange of peace" - that is, the moment that provides for the handshake - during the masses.

    For days on the Facebook groups of the inhabitants of the area have been published messages on vaccines, some of which are quite alarming and in some cases unfounded. Giorgio Bertazzoli - mayor of Sarnico, one of the largest towns in the area - has published daily bulletins on the group "Sei di Sarnico se ...", providing timetables and indications for vaccination sessions, and also the Bergamo ATS (Protection Agency della Salute, the old ASL) has updated its Facebook page in real time.

    The meningitis C vaccine was distributed free of charge by hospitals and ATS while a coordination was formed between the Ministry of Health, the Istituto Superiore di Sanità, AGENAS (National Agency for Regional Health Services) and the various local and regional health authorities. "In just a few days, we opened 14 extraordinary clinics," Regional Councilor for Welfare Giulio Gallera explained to Eco di Bergamo: "we arrived at the schools, without closing them, and we will arrive at 25 companies. I am positively impressed by the sense of responsibility of many local administrators, of the entrepreneurs who have made spaces and facilities available for vaccinations to their employees, of citizens who have understood the importance of vaccination as a preferential defense tool ". In all, around 20 thousand people have been vaccinated, which according to Corriere della Sera equals 60 percent of the area's population.

    At the moment, the concerns of several inhabitants of the area have shifted to damage to tourism: the mayor of Sarnico spoke of "canceled reservations" in hotels and "half-empty" shops and restaurants on days of greatest concern.

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    Hmmmm. Coincidence?

  9. 22 hours ago, HeartFc said:

    Look, ill explain how these images often get thrown into the mix. People take screen grabs of random pictures from everywhere, they simply have to match the subject matter and have a dramatic screen grab and they go viral.

    No. It's an official story from MSM MK Ultra media.

    Play the videos and see they are identical rooms.

     

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/cbs-news-caught-using-footage-from-an-italian-hospital-to-describe-conditions-in-new-york-city-video/

     

     

  10. 49 minutes ago, belaguttman said:

    Playmaker, that is not the logical conclusion from the data you've presented. Do you suggest that Italian ICUs have mysteriously filled up with patients and that this is not directly related to Covid-19 infections? People have co-morbid conditions

    No I am suggesting that the on the 13th of March the Italian government claimed 2 deaths and the WHO claimed 1266.

    Doesn't matter which way you want to bend the data discrepancy to suit your own bias, what is written is reality at that point in time.

     

  11. https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://www.agenzianova.com/a/5e6bcf1da7fbe3.23491954/2851060/2020-03-13/coronavirus-iss-in-italia-i-decessi-accertati-finora-per-causa-del-covid-19-sono-solo-due&usg=ALkJrhgt8ZwSVk9IMimZlQpO_Ud3gkt18w

    Rome, 13 March 19:12 - (Agenzia Nova) - There may be only two people who died from coronavirus in Italy, who did not present other pathologies. This is what emerges from the medical records examined so far by the Higher Institute of Health, according to what was reported by the President of the Institute, Silvio Brusaferro, during the press conference held today at the Civil Protection in Rome. "Positive deceased patients have an average of over 80 years - 80.3 to be exact - and are essentially predominantly male," said Brusaferro. "Women are 25.8 percent. The average age of the deceased is significantly higher than the other positive ones. The age groups over 70, with a peak between 80 and 89 years. The majority of these people are carriers of chronic diseases. Only two people were not presently carriers of diseases ", but even in these two cases, the examination of the files is not concluded and therefore, causes of death different from Covid-19 could emerge. The president of the ISS has specified that "little more than a hundred medical records" have so far come from hospitals throughout Italy.

    These are the first minimum detailed data provided so far by the Civil Protection on the causes of death of coronavirus patients. At present, in fact, the authorities are unable to distinguish those who died from the virus, from those who, on the other hand, are communicated daily to the public, but who were mostly carriers of other serious diseases and who, therefore, would not have died from Covid-19. In response to a question from "Agenzia Nova", in fact, Brusaferro was unable to indicate the exact number of coronavirus deaths. However, the professor clarified that, according to the data analyzed, the vast majority of the victims "had serious pathologies and in some cases the onset of an infection of the respiratory tract can lead more easily to death. To clarify this point , and provide real data, "as we acquire the folders we will go further. However, the populations most at risk are fragile, carriers of multiple diseases.

    On this exact same date the WHO had this up

     

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    So the Health minister of Italy says 2 confirmed deaths and the WHO says 1266.

     

  12. 1 hour ago, belaguttman said:

    playmaker, my strongest medical advice to you is that if you treat this like a conspiracy

    With all due respect your medical advice is worthless,  I will rely on the actual data thanks.

    As i have said, i have been in medical sciences my whole working life and my ability to discern truth from analysing medical information far out ways your blind opinion.

    But you are free to choose what you want to believe.

    1 hour ago, belaguttman said:

    you are putting your own life, and that of many others at risk

    Who is suggesting I am not following the rules?

    Just because I am thinking freely and seeking truth through real scientific processes, doesn't mean I am being unlawful, unless I was living in Nazi Germany or China that is.

    1 hour ago, HeartFc said:

    So a bunch of lazy drop kick journalists recycling images just made you believe in a conspiracy. Bravo.

    No my point is that it is a film set.

    It's not even real.

    Production started in 2010 and is about a CIA interrogator that is lured into a ruse that puts London at risk of a biological attack.

    Coincidence?

    I will let you decide.

  13. 51 minutes ago, Jovan said:

    World governments would never choose depression as the best option unless it was absolutely the only alternative. 

    Well said, I agree.

    80 000 troops on the ground in Europe, 30 000 of which are US.

    Thousands of Russian troops in Rome.

    8000 arrests in the Vatican 

    Organised crime syndicate involved with human and children trafficking being brought down all around the world

    CEOs and leaders of business resigning at record rates.

    The Greeks atm fighting back 200 000 Africans at the Turkish border with 100s of thousand more coming.

    And imagine what we don't know, maybe it WAS the only alternative. 

    MSM not talking about that are they because its all corona corona corona. 

    Can't you see?

    This is mind control 101. Psychological warfare.

    I am not having a go at you or anyone else, its just if people know their basic history of wartime propaganda,  and instead of getting mentally slaughtered my the MSM all day just read or listen to other and in IMO more precise information.

    I post what I do because, for me, it's in plain sight and being in medical science my whole life, its obvious that the virus is a con and there is something bigger going on.

    I feel saddened to see the fear in people and I really do care about all you guys.

    We are all blessed by having such a vast amount of information at our fingertips and we all have the opportunity to investigate all things and gain knowledge related to anything. I encourage everyone to unplug from the MSM, and social mind control media and research other information outlets without bias, especially independent medical research and European independent media.

    Anyway that is all I have to say.

    That's it for me.

    10 days of darkness, 10/4 important

    Hope you all stay safe and may God bless and bring peace and comfort to you and your families.

     

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  14. A lot of theories floating around here but let's see what the experts say.

    Enjoy.

    Below is our list of twelve medical experts whose opinions on the Coronavirus outbreak contradict the official narratives of the MSM, and the memes so prevalent on social media.

     

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    Dr Sucharit Bhakdi is a specialist in microbiology. He was a professor at the Johannes Gutenberg University in Mainz and head of the Institute for Medical Microbiology and Hygiene and one of the most cited research scientists in German history.

    What he says:

    We are afraid that 1 million infections with the new virus will lead to 30 deaths per day over the next 100 days. But we do not realise that 20, 30, 40 or 100 patients positive for normal coronaviruses are already dying every day.

    [The government’s anti-COVID19 measures] are grotesque, absurd and very dangerous […] The life expectancy of millions is being shortened. The horrifying impact on the world economy threatens the existence of countless people. The consequences on medical care are profound. Already services to patients in need are reduced, operations cancelled, practices empty, hospital personnel dwindling. All this will impact profoundly on our whole society.

    All these measures are leading to self-destruction and collective suicide based on nothing but a spook.

     

     

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    Dr Wolfgang Wodarg is a German physician specialising in Pulmonology, politician and former chairman of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe. In 2009 he called for an inquiry into alleged conflicts of interest surrounding the EU response to the Swine Flu pandemic.

    What he says:

    Politicians are being courted by scientists…scientists who want to be important to get money for their institutions. Scientists who just swim along in the mainstream and want their part of it […] And what is missing right now is a rational way of looking at things.

    We should be asking questions like “How did you find out this virus was dangerous?”, “How was it before?”, “Didn’t we have the same thing last year?”, “Is it even something new?”

    That’s missing.

     

     

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    Dr Joel Kettner s professor of Community Health Sciences and Surgery at Manitoba University, former Chief Public Health Officer for Manitoba province and Medical Director of the International Centre for Infectious Diseases.

    What he says:

    I have never seen anything like this, anything anywhere near like this. I’m not talking about the pandemic, because I’ve seen 30 of them, one every year. It is called influenza. And other respiratory illness viruses, we don’t always know what they are. But I’ve never seen this reaction, and I’m trying to understand why.

    […]

    I worry about the message to the public, about the fear of coming into contact with people, being in the same space as people, shaking their hands, having meetings with people. I worry about many, many consequences related to that.

    […]

    In Hubei, in the province of Hubei, where there has been the most cases and deaths by far, the actual number of cases reported is 1 per 1000 people and the actual rate of deaths reported is 1 per 20,000. So maybe that would help to put things into perspective.

     

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    Dr John Ioannidis Professor of Medicine, of Health Research and Policy and of Biomedical Data Science, at Stanford University School of Medicine and a Professor of Statistics at Stanford University School of Humanities and Sciences. He is director of the Stanford Prevention Research Center, and co-director of the Meta-Research Innovation Center at Stanford (METRICS).

    He is also the editor-in-chief of the European Journal of Clinical Investigation. He was chairman at the Department of Hygiene and Epidemiology, University of Ioannina School of Medicine as well as adjunct professor at Tufts University School of Medicine.

    As a physician, scientist and author he has made contributions to evidence-based medicine, epidemiology, data science and clinical research. In addition, he pioneered the field of meta-research. He has shown that much of the published research does not meet good scientific standards of evidence.

     

    What he says:

    Patients who have been tested for SARS-CoV-2 are disproportionately those with severe symptoms and bad outcomes. As most health systems have limited testing capacity, selection bias may even worsen in the near future.

    The one situation where an entire, closed population was tested was the Diamond Princess cruise ship and its quarantine passengers. The case fatality rate there was 1.0%, but this was a largely elderly population, in which the death rate from Covid-19 is much higher.

    […]

    Could the Covid-19 case fatality rate be that low? No, some say, pointing to the high rate in elderly people. However, even some so-called mild or common-cold-type coronaviruses that have been known for decades can have case fatality rates as high as 8% when they infect elderly people in nursing homes.

    […]

    If we had not known about a new virus out there, and had not checked individuals with PCR tests, the number of total deaths due to “influenza-like illness” would not seem unusual this year. At most, we might have casually noted that flu this season seems to be a bit worse than average.

    – “A fiasco in the making? As the coronavirus pandemic takes hold, we are making decisions without reliable data”, Stat News, 17th March 2020

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    Dr Yoram Lass is an Israeli physician, politician and former Director General of the Health Ministry. He also worked as Associate Dean of the Tel Aviv University Medical School and during the 1980s presented the science-based television show Tatzpit.

    What he says:

    Italy is known for its enormous morbidity in respiratory problems, more than three times any other European country. In the US about 40,000 people die in a regular flu season and so far 40-50 people have died of the coronavirus, most of them in a nursing home in Kirkland, Washington.

    […]

    In every country, more people die from regular flu compared with those who die from the coronavirus.

    […]

    …there is a very good example that we all forget: the swine flu in 2009. That was a virus that reached the world from Mexico and until today there is no vaccination against it. But what? At that time there was no Facebook or there maybe was but it was still in its infancy. The coronavirus, in contrast, is a virus with public relations.

    Whoever thinks that governments end viruses is wrong.

    – Interview in Globes, March 22nd 2020

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    Dr Pietro Vernazza is a Swiss physician specialising Infectious Diseases at the Cantonal Hospital St. Gallen and Professor of Health Policy.

    What he says:

    We have reliable figures from Italy and a work by epidemiologists, which has been published in the renowned science journal ‹Science›, which examined the spread in China. This makes it clear that around 85 percent of all infections have occurred without anyone noticing the infection. 90 percent of the deceased patients are verifiably over 70 years old, 50 percent over 80 years.

    […]

    In Italy, one in ten people diagnosed die, according to the findings of the Science publication, that is statistically one of every 1,000 people infected. Each individual case is tragic, but often – similar to the flu season – it affects people who are at the end of their lives.

    […]

    If we close the schools, we will prevent the children from quickly becoming immune.

    […]

    We should better integrate the scientific facts into the political decisions.

    – Interview in St. Galler Tagblatt, 22nd March 2020

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    Frank Ulrich Montgomery is German radiologist, former President of the German Medical Association and Deputy Chairman of the World Medical Association.

    What he says:

    I’m not a fan of lockdown. Anyone who imposes something like this must also say when and how to pick it up again. Since we have to assume that the virus will be with us for a long time, I wonder when we will return to normal? You can’t keep schools and daycare centers closed until the end of the year. Because it will take at least that long until we have a vaccine. Italy has imposed a lockdown and has the opposite effect. They quickly reached their capacity limits, but did not slow down the virus spread within the lockdown.

    – Interview in General Anzeiger, 18th March 2020

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    Prof. Hendrik Streeck is a German HIV researcher, epidemiologist and clinical trialist. He is professor of virology, and the director of the Institute of Virology and HIV Research, at Bonn University.

    What he says:

    The new pathogen is not that dangerous, it is even less dangerous than Sars-1. The special thing is that Sars-CoV-2 replicates in the upper throat area and is therefore much more infectious because the virus jumps from throat to throat, so to speak. But that is also an advantage: Because Sars-1 replicates in the deep lungs, it is not so infectious, but it definitely gets on the lungs, which makes it more dangerous.

    […]

    You also have to take into account that the Sars-CoV-2 deaths in Germany were exclusively old people. In Heinsberg, for example, a 78-year-old man with previous illnesses died of heart failure, and that without Sars-2 lung involvement. Since he was infected, he naturally appears in the Covid 19 statistics. But the question is whether he would not have died anyway, even without Sars-2.

    – Interview in Frankfurter Allgemeine, 16th March 2020

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    Dr Yanis Roussel et. al. – A team of researchers from the Institut Hospitalo-universitaire Méditerranée Infection, Marseille and the Institut de Recherche pour le Développement, Assistance Publique-Hôpitaux de Marseille, conducting a peer-reviewed study on Coronavirus mortality for the government of France under the ‘Investments for the Future’ programme.

    What they say:

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    The problem of SARS-CoV-2 is probably overestimated, as 2.6 million people die of respiratory infections each year compared with less than 4000 deaths for SARS-CoV-2 at the time of writing.

    […]

    This study compared the mortality rate of SARS-CoV-2 in OECD countries (1.3%) with the mortality rate of common coronaviruses identified in AP-HM patients (0.8%) from 1 January 2013 to 2 March 2020. Chi-squared test was performed, and the P-value was 0.11 (not significant).

    […]

    …it should be noted that systematic studies of other coronaviruses (but not yet for SARS-CoV-2) have found that the percentage of asymptomatic carriers is equal to or even higher than the percentage of symptomatic patients. The same data for SARS-CoV-2 may soon be available, which will further reduce the relative risk associated with this specific pathology.

    – “SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data”, International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents, 19th March 2020

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    Dr. David Katz is an American physician and founding director of the Yale University Prevention Research Center

    What he says:

    I am deeply concerned that the social, economic and public health consequences of this near-total meltdown of normal life — schools and businesses closed, gatherings banned — will be long-lasting and calamitous, possibly graver than the direct toll of the virus itself. The stock market will bounce back in time, but many businesses never will. The unemployment, impoverishment and despair likely to result will be public health scourges of the first order.

    – “Is Our Fight Against Coronavirus Worse Than the Disease?”, New York Times 20th March 2020

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    Michael T. Osterholm is regents professor and director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota.

    What he says:

    Consider the effect of shutting down offices, schools, transportation systems, restaurants, hotels, stores, theaters, concert halls, sporting events and other venues indefinitely and leaving all of their workers unemployed and on the public dole. The likely result would be not just a depression but a complete economic breakdown, with countless permanently lost jobs, long before a vaccine is ready or natural immunity takes hold.

    […]

    [T]he best alternative will probably entail letting those at low risk for serious disease continue to work, keep business and manufacturing operating, and “run” society, while at the same time advising higher-risk individuals to protect themselves through physical distancing and ramping up our health-care capacity as aggressively as possible. With this battle plan, we could gradually build up immunity without destroying the financial structure on which our lives are based.

    – “Facing covid-19 reality: A national lockdown is no cure”, Washington Post 21st March 2020

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    Dr Peter Goetzsche is Professor of Clinical Research Design and Analysis at the University of Copenhagen and founder of the Cochrane Medical Collaboration. He has written several books on corruption in the field of medicine and the power of big pharmaceutical companies.

    What he says:

    Our main problem is that no one will ever get in trouble for measures that are too draconian. They will only get in trouble if they do too little. So, our politicians and those working with public health do much more than they should do.

    No such draconian measures were applied during the 2009 influenza pandemic, and they obviously cannot be applied every winter, which is all year round, as it is always winter somewhere. We cannot close down the whole world permanently.

    Should it turn out that the epidemic wanes before long, there will be a queue of people wanting to take credit for this. And we can be damned sure draconian measures will be applied again next time. But remember the joke about tigers. “Why do you blow the horn?” “To keep the tigers away.” “But there are no tigers here.” “There you see!”

    – “Corona: an epidemic of mass panic”, blog post on Deadly Medicines 21st March 2020

     

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