Inchcolm

Looks young Baccus is coming to us. He gave us the first goal and now gets sent off to help us play against 10 men

We are chasing the game we need all the attacking players we have Not Berenguer one of the defensive mid players should have come off

miss match with DeLaet

Just as I thought playing his strongest team. I believe it will be his favoured 4:2:3:1 With DeLaet up front and McGree, Brattand and Berenguer Behind him. With Baccus and Grifffiths sitting midfielders. And a back 4 of Atkinson Good Bart and Jamieson.

Is this a choice or a necessity due to injuries and as we are missing a Marquee and visa player. When we are injury free and get in a Marquee and visa players, I do not expect many to be named. But it is always healthy to have your youth have the experience of being in the squad even if they get no game time.

I realise we need to rest players but do you think Joyce would be so adventurous as to start those two in a must win game. If we get a 2 goal lead he may sub them on but then again if we get any kind of lead Joyce will park the bus. In my opinion, he will play what he believes to be his strongest team.

In my opinion it is about striking a balance between attack and defence. Too much defence and you finish up with boring football (Joyce). Too much attacking and you leave yourself exposed to the counter attack. As someone mentioned Arsenal won with defensive football. Their fans had a chant "1v0 to the Arsenal" but this was not all defensive football they had attacking players who scored the goal not hoping for wonder strike out side the box or a set piece. Can Joyce find the correct balance I doubt it. Therefore he has opted for the safe option of defensive football with very little attacking football. He loves possession therefore play back or sideways because if we have the ball they cannot score. But has forgotten we need to score.

Totally agree, I am 40 with 22 years experience

The players have to start being more disciplined as suspensions are on the horizon and they could cost the team points Delbridge has 6 yellows Jamieson on 4 yellows Baccus, McGree, DeLaet and Brattan have 3 yellows I believe 5 yellows and a player is suspended for 1 game. In Delbridge's case does he revert to 0 after 5. In some leagues it is 8 or 9 yellows and a 2 match suspension

Watched it. It was an entertaining match lots of attacking play, goals etc. Night and day compared to our dull defensive game at home. Wellington had only one thing in their game plan and it was not to go away from home and play for a draw.

Can you ask him why players who have completed a season of 40 - 50 games. Go off to world cups in places such as USA, Mexico etc and the next in Bahrain where compete twice a week for over a month in similar temp conditions. Look at Brazil, the number of teams in their league and the distance they have to travel. I am saying if the management and the players are professional they overcome the difficulties put in front of them, not use them as an excuse.

The boys were tired?? They are supposed to be professional soccer players. Other players around the world play 40-50 games a season. Playing twice a week is not unusual for a month at a time. Also other teams in the league have the same schedule. So let's not start to look for excuses. We are supposed to be one of the fittest teams in the league under Joyce and he has his sport scientists around him. His big problem is the size and quality of his squad. He is a marquee and visa player short and because of this he now does not have any attacking options as the only options available to are to use defensive players or youth in attacking positions.

In this part of the world when a supporter pays to watch his team, he hopes for or expects two outcomes; to see his team win and to be entertained. If his team does not win but he is entertained that compensates for the loss of points. Should his team win and he is not entertained, he generally goes home satisfied with the knowledge his team has 3 more points. But when his team does not win and he is not entertained then he has a duty to express his disconnect at the club manager and players. This is especially true when playing at home where going for a win should be demanded by the supporters

He is only interested in results and at times that is not losing

Western Melbourne say they are "pretty close" to signing Celtic captain Scott Brown. (Scottish Daily Record)

Griffiths yellow card take him off before he is sent off

Usual 4:2:3:1

The team looks like it is set up for damage limitation. Not a message you want to send out. Put an attacking side on the park and go down fighting for a win rather than try and steal a win.

MOH comes home to Perth and signed for St Johnstone 2 1/2 year deal thank you W Joyce.

Annual remember it is only the average salary. We are not told individuals wages.

Here in Cyprus the average wage is 20,000 euros with 5% deducted for tax leaving 17,000 euros after tax. I guess that's the minimum he would ask for. I believe that is 27,000 dollars after tax. But remember that is an average wage he is probably is on more. So is this the normal salary after tax for a visa player.

Watched him last few seasons her in Cyprus playing for Ominia. He played along side Sheridan (Wellington). He has been top goal scorer for 2 seasons. If we get him problem of striker sorted as I believe Cyprus with it"s foreign players is a much better league than the A league.

I agree with this team as I believe he will field his strongest defensive team and that means DeLaet at full back. The only choice he has to make is Berenguer fit enough to start, if not start with Vidosic. Then hope Perth have an off day

More info. He questioned Joyce why he was not in the squad when he was declared fit. He told Joyce he was wrong to keep Baccus in the squad when he was cleared fit to play. (Berenguer them became the mystical injured player to allow Baccus to stay). He told Joyce he was better than the players in his position (Wales, Vidosic, etc)) and that he should play. This started during the cup games. British mentality tell the coach what you think. The coach handles the situation. However Joyce does not like to be told he is wrong and that was the end of MOH.

MOH was forced off of the pitch because of Joyce team selection. He preferred to strengthen his midfield with Baccus and kept MOH on the injury list. Then he decided to give other younger players an opportunity before him Najjarine as an example. Lastly he was deemed behind Mcgree Wales and Vidosic in the pecking order. Hence one of the reasons he left. It looks like he could be playing along side Ross let's see what that combination brings