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2 hours ago, n i k o said:
On one hand I agree but disagree with the other. The thing is if certain conditions were arranged as a squad that all players had to adhere to Joyce set these conditions as being black and white then it would have been a double edged sword for him.
For example if you, playmaker, were in charge of a squad and you felt behavior, attitude, commitment etc. were sub par and you made agreements with your team that if they don't adhere to them then everyone agrees they don't play, would you ignore this policy set early on? What would the other players think of the double standard and how would they react?
Ultimately it's his fault in how he managed the team overall.
Totally agree.
However one of the highest metrics I would place on the individual and the team is
ON-FIELD PERFORMANCE.
The rest of the Wazza-type metrics would be of minimal significance if on the field everyone was doing their job and the team was harmonious.
Also given Bruno was our best player and our only striker, the manager's job is to ensure that he was fit, understood the match day tactical concepts, and assess his value based on his on-field performance over time and then MANAGE IT.
The senior players have already proven their worth on the pitch and should be treated as such, the B level players need to treated differently and to EARN their spot on the pitch through on-field performances when given the opportunity.
You can't treat both the same and any manager that thinks thinks they can is delusional.
Anyway past is past and good to see Wazza is far far away from here now.
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The best midfield will win this game as both team's attack is more than capable of piling on goals.
Taking advantage of midfield errors with fast breaks will be the key.
Will be an interesting game
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Conte had a falling out with Diego Costa and still played him because the TEAM needed him and he was the best player for the position.
Regardless of the circumstances, the Manager needs to put the team's success in front of his own ego. A good manager will always do that.
He should have played him until the next transfer window and then let him go.
Wazza was garbage for the club, for the players, for the fans and for the A-league.
An absolute moron.
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Perth Glory striker Bruno Fornaroli labelled his final months at Melbourne City “the worst in my career” and regretted not being able to say goodbye to his beloved fans, ahead of Friday’s comeback game.
Melbourne City’s record goalscorer revealed that the fallout was solely with former coach Warren Joyce, as he was relegated to training with the youth team and watching from the stands for three months in one of the club’s darkest chapters.
Bruno Fornaroli watched Melbourne City from the stands for three months.
Joyce never revealed the full story behind Fornaroli’s axing, expect to say that he did not meet the standards that he had agreed to set in pre-season.
It is one year since Fornaroli was sensationally axed after scoring in the 2-0 win over Wellington, his last game for City.
“The worst moment in my career,” said Fornaroli, who scored 57 City goals in 83 games in all competitions.
“I had many, many difficult times in my career. Injuries, I had to leave clubs. But for me, I can say now it was the worst moment in my career.
“Yeah, it’s clear (the issue was with Joyce). I don’t want to lie. I’m relaxed with myself because I can sleep. I think I (did) everything for the club.
Fornaroli said that the fallout was exclusively between him and ex City coach Warren Joyce.
“After that I don’t take the decision. In that period someone take the decisions and it’s not me. And people working inside Melbourne City sometimes don’t take the decisions to, they come from other side of the world. This is hard. When you know the people don’t take the decisions they everyday close to you know what is the situation, it’s hard.
“Again. I’m very grateful with Michael Petrillo, (ex chief executive) Scott Munn and all the people who support me til the end. I wish Melbourne City all the best.”
Fornaroli admitted it will be an emotional return to the ground he delivered so many special goals and memories for City, headlined by captaining them to the 2016 FFA Cup.
“I don’t know (how I will feel), but for sure strange. I played the last four years there and a lot of good memories there at AAMI Park,” he said.
“I only hope I have a warm welcome (from) fans, (I will) say hello to everyone.
“The way I left, I can’t say bye inside the pitch. For a player the important thing when you leave one place, is to say goodbye to the fans and supporters. I didn’t get to do that.
“I have good memories there, I’m very grateful to the club and fans – they supported me to the end too.
“Most special was when I went to watch the games and I couldn’t play and the fans still supported me. This is the best for one player. I’m very grateful (to) them.
“But when the referee says start the game, I will fight for my team.
“What happened happened between me and the coach and it’s finished. I’m looking forward and I’m thinking about Perth Glory, I’m happy there and I want to give everything to win for them. I’m purple.”
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The best defence will win this game as both team's attack is more than capable of piling on goals
Will be an interesting game
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On 29/11/2019 at 1:39 PM, belaguttman said:
I can't remember who the coach was, but back in the 70s/80s, there was a coach who used to train his players to maintain shape by tieing them to each other with long lengths of rope in training. When one player moved, the whole line had to move
Helenio Herrera I think.
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31 minutes ago, jw1739 said:
But that's what real football is all about. Controversy, crying one minute, going off your head the next. It's what makes the game, and keeps bringing people back to it. Long may it continue.
What would there be to talk about if it was all cut and dried?
In other words, this passion defines the heart of the club.
Beautiful to witness.
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Jamie!!!!
Nothing more to say
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3 minutes ago, Mr MO said:
There seems to be a pattern we concede only from opponent play from the left.
The pattern existed last season too.
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Brilliante should be our captain
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Jamieson getting his arse handed to to him by Kamau.
Just shows how crap Jamo really is.
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2 minutes ago, fensaddler said:
And why wasn't that offside?
Player behind the ball
2 minutes ago, haz said:Down Jamieson's side again
These fn inverted fullbacks tactics are killing us.
Jamieson too slow and too narrow.
#sack Mombaets
# Drain the swamp
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2 hours ago, Mr MO said:
Jamieson is sort of untouchable for many - being captain, a nice bloke and active on Twitter and all that.
And one of the weakest players on our list.
We have conceded goals consistently down the left side.
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2 hours ago, Mr MO said:
The VAR did it all correct, unlike in the Premier League - the VAR asked the referee to make the call on the monitor.
That's my point. The ref had the advantage of having a replay to make the correct decision, so obviously he doesn't know the rules.
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4 minutes ago, jw1739 said:
It was a general comment, not specifically relating to the Genreau incident. I agree with you - protecting certain parts of the body is a natural reflex action and should not be penalised. What was Denis supposed to do - risk losing his eyesight for example?
Exactly.
Just ridiculous and so easy to decide with VAR making it so much easier to call.
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10 minutes ago, jw1739 said:
The rule is stupid because it is too complicated. I doubt that there's a referee in the country who would remember all those clauses in the middle of a match.
Come on JW.
In the history of world football when has the natural reflex of protecting your face from a ball drilled directly at a players face been a penalty?
Is the defender gaining an advantage?
No because if the ball doesn't hit the hand it hits the face and does damage, broken nose, ruptured eye socket, concussion etc.
This is not in the spirit of the rule and if they don't know this then they shouldn't be a ref.
Pathetic
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Poor game, didn't react to the opponent's change in tactics and just sat on his hands.
Should have made some key changes to stop the unfavourable flow of the game.
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16 minutes ago, neio said:
I don't think we can play Luna and Cabrera in the same team, they drift in and out too much
The only problem is I don't know which one is better yet
They are both better than Noone atm.
Noone should be benched.
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@neio the only people that are confused are the refs and commentator, the rules a crystal clear.
You are correct in all your examples.
Delbridge and Genreau incidents are not penalties.
This league is suffering from incompetence once again and wrecking the game.
You are spot on.
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2 hours ago, Tony999 said:
How can they count that as membership if there was no transaction?
They are probably counted as 2 per person because they are not stupid enough to pay for their membership.
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14 minutes ago, Shahanga said:
Well that was hard to watch. Fair to say our opponents won’t be gifted 2 goals by the ref every week though.
Erick is going to have to wear some of the blame though. Luna was invisible in the second half and needed to come off about 30 minutes earlier. “Not his best game”. ( he gave the ball away softly on the edge of the box which led to the Griffith penalty).
For all those who think the world has ended, we are still top of the league and will be tomorrow morning.
Luna was spent at the 50th min and should have been subbed.
Also we lost because they switched their wingers and played wide, and we kept playing narrow with our FBs. It's an inherent weakness in our structure.
Jamieson got slaughtered and Noone had a shocker, that whole left side was our weakness.
Mombaets better get his act together. His decisions and lack there of allowed for their total domination in the 2nd half.
The 2 pens were just down to bad luck and we just need to take that.
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Championship winning team.
Dean
Galloway Harrison Good Jamieson
Brilliante Florin
Luna
Cabrera Jmac Noone
Subs Metcalf, Genreau, Wales, Windbichler Colakovski, Griffiths, Atkinson.
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Let's see where this conversation is at midway through the season.
He is out of sorts atm moment however he is still doing the little things that go unnoticed.
The Munn Joyce combination did more than destroy the club, it also destroyed players.
Glad to see that dark history is behind us now but we all can see what resulted and stench that has been left.
Hope he comes back to his majestic form that was an absolute pleasure to watch.
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Good team game.
These are games we need to dominate and we did so.
Workman-like performance against a weaker opposition.
Good solid and harmonious performance which shows unity between the manager and the players.
Well done.
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Bruno Fornaroli - "El Tuna"
in Melbourne City
Posted · Edited by playmaker
Exactly.
A dog's vomit looks more organised and rational than what transpired here as a whole.
Anyway let's move on and hope that this situation never gets repeated.
As for the Florin issue, he needs to be on the pitch and be one of our best players or he needs to be let go in January.
We can't afford a mediocre marquee in our team if we want to win the league.