DutchPride Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) The current TV deal is $120 million over 7 years (2005-2012), based on initially 90 A-League matches per season, Socceroos matches outside of the World Cup & Asian Cup matches. It adds up to around 17m a year. The A-League now has over 130 games per year, Socceroos matches surely are valued at more now compared to 05' & with the next Asian Cup being in Australia, surely a new deal will be a lot more based on those factors. Big A-League fixtures easily top 100k viewers, & bottom table matches generally get above 45-50k, add it all up & Foxtel get over 50k viewers per game for 4-5 months (finals not included). FFA's main priority of the deal would be to get an amount that keeps clubs pretty viable for the next 5 or so years, which attracts more shareholders that don't need to worry about huge losses & the initial risk of investing. For me 150m over 5 years, so 30m a year would be great, it would make all clubs break even, it covers previous FFA losses. A 13m improvement per annum is a big step & to me it has to be the MINIMUM, I think Foxtel will give that to them & although an FTA agreement for the A-League would be great, I don't think the FFA would turn down 30m per annum, because it's a massive 13m increase on what it is now. I also think FTA channels will come after Socceroos matches at least, after the success in the past 5-10 years, the good crowds that the national team draws & the promising future that lies ahead for the national team. 30m would basically cover all losses, a lot greater contribution to A-League clubs & would allow for money to be spent on bigger advertising & proper investment, this game could become huge in Australia regardless if no one ever knows a match is on, look at how people reacted to the 06 world cup campaign, Australia only made it to the RO16, imagine what the reaction could be with proper investment in advertising. So for me 30m p.a for the A-League alone would be great & a big step & a separate deal for the national team matches to go with it. What do you guys think is suitable that is also realistic? Edited February 28, 2012 by DutchPride 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrigateRossonere Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Agree. The growth has perhaps not been of the magnitude that some would have expected, but it has definitely been there. 30m a year sounds to me even a tad optimistic as a minimum figure. For me a more realistic MINIMUM would be 25m per annum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted February 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 I'm hoping for, over 5 years: Foxtel: $300m for all 142 HAL games + Non World Cup games + ACL games Ten/SBS: $75m for 27 games + weekly Highlights + $xx FFA Cup games Optus: $25m online partner. Very optimistic, if we got that we would be laughing, that'd be 225m+ for the A-League alone. Do World Cup games slot in under the Ten/SBS section? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted February 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Agree. The growth has perhaps not been of the magnitude that some would have expected, but it has definitely been there. 30m a year sounds to me even a tad optimistic as a minimum figure. For me a more realistic MINIMUM would be 25m per annum. From what I read FFA are expecting at least 30m minimum anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrigateRossonere Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 From what I read FFA are expecting at least 30m minimum anyway. Yes and Gary Cahill wanted 120k per week from Chelsea. Honestly, I think the deal should be a shorter one. Perhaps 3-4 years if possible and then negotiate at the expiration of that deal and seriously up the demand as the league right now is not in the best position to be bargaining a huge increase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted February 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) Nice comparison rofl. 17m from 2005 is now worth 21m, you said you would be happy with 25m which is a 9m increase from 17m, so if 17m from 2005 is now worth 21m then a 9m increase would be 30m. People subscribed to pay tv has gone up 15% in the last 6 years & with the introduction of the FoxFooty channel it will rise ever more, it also means Foxtel will be willing to pay more to hold consistent ratings throughout the year when it comes to Sports. I want 30m p.a but I think it'll end up being 35-50m Edited February 28, 2012 by DutchPride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 If you guys know the AFL deal it'd be worth putting that up as a comparison. Could you that as a guide. Incidentally the NRL deal is up for negotation too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted February 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) http://www.afl.com.a...60/default.aspx Edited February 28, 2012 by DutchPride Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toogood18 Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 Look what I think will happen is the deal will be Optus/Foxtel/Ten (One) or SBS Optus: Online telecast Foxtel: All games live, ala footy, ACL games, Socceroos Free-to air Channel: Will broadcast every game for a team from an area per week. So Melbourne would get Heart and Victory every week plus 'game of the round' All up I reckon FFA will get 350-450 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 i better be free to air... we would attract so many new fans. anyone know about the happenings of the FFA cup? is it happening? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranerz21 Posted February 28, 2012 Report Share Posted February 28, 2012 would 10 and SBS buy like the rights, and then sell some of it to Foxtel like how i think 7 and 10 did in the last AFL deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salzy Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 Watching football on any free to air channel but for SBS would be painful. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attila Posted February 29, 2012 Report Share Posted February 29, 2012 (edited) One the big three channels would obviously gain the most mainstream exposure. I guess it will all come down to either if the FFA wants the short term cash (Fox Sports), or go free to air and let football be shown to a wider audience which will increase the games exposure and potentially bring in better crowds not only in the long term, but in the immediate future. Edited February 29, 2012 by Attila Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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