Braveheart Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 @Baresi: What were Inter thinking with the home strip this year? Tragedy. Apparently Interisti were seething with rage when it was first released. Pin stripes? Yuk Pin stripes have never looked good at the track and they don't look much good here either... Especially seeming though this is the first time in their history the Nerazzurri wont be wearing their traditional blue and black stripes. Why fuck with a classic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baresi Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Posted that in the kit thread last week. Looks nice IMO, but SHOULD NOT BE AN INTER HOME KIT. Would have happily had it as a 3rd kit, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braveheart Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Posted that in the kit thread last week. Looks nice IMO, but SHOULD NOT BE AN INTER HOME KIT. Would have happily had it as a 3rd kit, though. The cut and the collar are shmick IMO but the pinstripes look ghastly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted July 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I actually think it's a good looking kit, but it shouldn't be the home kit, like Baresi says. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baresi Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Posted that in the kit thread last week. Looks nice IMO, but SHOULD NOT BE AN INTER HOME KIT. Would have happily had it as a 3rd kit, though. The cut and the collar are shmick IMO but the pinstripes look ghastly. Personally, I like pinstripes on football kits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted July 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2014 can't say I really have much of an opinion on pinstripes either way ion general, but on this occasion I think it looks great.Again, the problem isn't how good or bad it looks though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellum Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Many reasons to laugh at Lazio. The new away strip for one - trying to copy Roma? then there is the signing of Astori with one phone call after Lazio spent the last few months negotiating with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tesla Posted July 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 Don't mind it TBH, but why is there no collar on this like the home kit has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 De Vrij set to complete Lazio move By Football Italia staff Stefan De Vrij has agreed terms with Lazio and will arrive in Rome shortly to complete a move. The Netherlands international has been heavily linked with a move to the capital side this summer, but a switch was thrown into doubt with rumours that Manchester United could be interested. However, Sky Sport Italia claim that Stefano Pioli’s men have an agreement withFeyenoord, as well as the defender, with a transfer likely to be announced shortly. The station believes that the 22-year-old is set to fly into Rome either tonight or tomorrow to have a medical. http://www.football-italia.net/52738/de-vrij-set-complete-lazio-move in b4 he signs with Roma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braveheart Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 De Vrij set to complete Lazio move By Football Italia staff Stefan De Vrij has agreed terms with Lazio and will arrive in Rome shortly to complete a move. The Netherlands international has been heavily linked with a move to the capital side this summer, but a switch was thrown into doubt with rumours that Manchester United could be interested. However, Sky Sport Italia claim that Stefano Pioli’s men have an agreement withFeyenoord, as well as the defender, with a transfer likely to be announced shortly. The station believes that the 22-year-old is set to fly into Rome either tonight or tomorrow to have a medical. http://www.football-italia.net/52738/de-vrij-set-complete-lazio-move in b4 he signs with Roma Good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted July 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Why are all italian clubs so risk adverse, every fucking transfer is a loan with an option to make it permanent at the end of the season.While sort of on the subject, getting rid of co-ownership is shit, it's a great system of spreading the risk and giving the club a player plays for more of an incentive to develop the player than a simple loan would (which doesn't really give any incentive) or buying the player with the selling club retaining a buy back option does (upside potential is unlimited in co-ownership), not to mention it was one of those things that make Italian football unique. Yes, there are many options to creating a similar result, but none beat it in effectiveness and simplicity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) De Vrij set to complete Lazio move By Football Italia staff Stefan De Vrij has agreed terms with Lazio and will arrive in Rome shortly to complete a move. The Netherlands international has been heavily linked with a move to the capital side this summer, but a switch was thrown into doubt with rumours that Manchester United could be interested. However, Sky Sport Italia claim that Stefano Pioli’s men have an agreement withFeyenoord, as well as the defender, with a transfer likely to be announced shortly. The station believes that the 22-year-old is set to fly into Rome either tonight or tomorrow to have a medical. http://www.football-italia.net/52738/de-vrij-set-complete-lazio-move in b4 he signs with Roma Good one. Edited July 28, 2014 by Libero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted July 28, 2014 Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 Why are all italian clubs so risk adverse, every fucking transfer is a loan with an option to make it permanent at the end of the season. While sort of on the subject, getting rid of co-ownership is shit, it's a great system of spreading the risk and giving the club a player plays for more of an incentive to develop the player than a simple loan would (which doesn't really give any incentive) or buying the player with the selling club retaining a buy back option does (upside potential is unlimited in co-ownership), not to mention it was one of those things that make Italian football unique. Yes, there are many options to creating a similar result, but none beat it in effectiveness and simplicity. The Italian clubs doing the loan with option to buy are the smartest. if you look at most clubs' financial situation it is much less risky and guarantees that if your player turns out to be a flop, it is only for the season. Agree on the co-ownership, except the fucked thing about it was that if no fee could be agreed, it goes to a blind auction which is not the best. It was very good for young players, and their development ie. Berardi, Zaza at Sassuolo, Immobile at Torino, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted July 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2014 (edited) The Italian clubs doing the loan with option to buy are the smartest. if you look at most clubs' financial situation it is much less risky and guarantees that if your player turns out to be a flop, it is only for the season.Yeah, but it comes at a premium. Agree on the co-ownership, except the fucked thing about it was that if no fee could be agreed, it goes to a blind auction which is not the best. It was very good for young players, and their development ie. Berardi, Zaza at Sassuolo, Immobile at Torino, etc...What's wrong with a blind auction? The team which values the player more will win.Don't forget Adriano on that list of co-ownerships.Who will be Inter's new striker addition, Destro, Osvaldo, or Hernandez? I'd put Destro as a slight favourite ahead of Osvaldo, we'd be keen for Destro's HG status Edited July 28, 2014 by Tesla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellum Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 The Italian clubs doing the loan with option to buy are the smartest. if you look at most clubs' financial situation it is much less risky and guarantees that if your player turns out to be a flop, it is only for the season. Yeah, but it comes at a premium. Agree on the co-ownership, except the fucked thing about it was that if no fee could be agreed, it goes to a blind auction which is not the best. It was very good for young players, and their development ie. Berardi, Zaza at Sassuolo, Immobile at Torino, etc... What's wrong with a blind auction? The team which values the player more will win. Don't forget Adriano on that list of co-ownerships. Who will be Inter's new striker addition, Destro, Osvaldo, or Hernandez? I'd put Destro as a slight favourite ahead of Osvaldo, we'd be keen for Destro's HG status Destro will remain at Roma. Keep dreaming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted July 29, 2014 Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 The Italian clubs doing the loan with option to buy are the smartest. if you look at most clubs' financial situation it is much less risky and guarantees that if your player turns out to be a flop, it is only for the season. Yeah, but it comes at a premium. Agree on the co-ownership, except the fucked thing about it was that if no fee could be agreed, it goes to a blind auction which is not the best. It was very good for young players, and their development ie. Berardi, Zaza at Sassuolo, Immobile at Torino, etc... What's wrong with a blind auction? The team which values the player more will win. Don't forget Adriano on that list of co-ownerships. Who will be Inter's new striker addition, Destro, Osvaldo, or Hernandez? I'd put Destro as a slight favourite ahead of Osvaldo, we'd be keen for Destro's HG status True, it is at a premium. however, that premium would be much less than if (like Milan with Matri), you pay 11mil Euros for a player + wages and end up not wanting him. then, you cant sell something no one wants, rather than his loan ending. In terms of the blind auctions, do you really think owners like this? Especially when one of the clubs offers $0... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted July 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2014 (edited) The Italian clubs doing the loan with option to buy are the smartest. if you look at most clubs' financial situation it is much less risky and guarantees that if your player turns out to be a flop, it is only for the season.Yeah, but it comes at a premium. Agree on the co-ownership, except the fucked thing about it was that if no fee could be agreed, it goes to a blind auction which is not the best. It was very good for young players, and their development ie. Berardi, Zaza at Sassuolo, Immobile at Torino, etc...What's wrong with a blind auction? The team which values the player more will win.Don't forget Adriano on that list of co-ownerships.Who will be Inter's new striker addition, Destro, Osvaldo, or Hernandez? I'd put Destro as a slight favourite ahead of Osvaldo, we'd be keen for Destro's HG status True, it is at a premium. however, that premium would be much less than if (like Milan with Matri), you pay 11mil Euros for a player + wages and end up not wanting him. then, you cant sell something no one wants, rather than his loan ending. In terms of the blind auctions, do you really think owners like this? Especially when one of the clubs offers $0...Well, blind auctions are better for the losing side, which I'd argue most of the time will be the smaller team, which makes it a pretty decent equality measure. Edited July 29, 2014 by Tesla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Libero Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 so Wolfsburg have apparently bid 25 mil euro's for Destro... (if true) surely Roma must sell, since he's basically 3rd choice striker and injury prone. i can see the potential in him, but anything about 20mil is surely too much to refuse? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted August 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 so Wolfsburg have apparently bid 25 mil euro's for Destro... (if true) surely Roma must sell, since he's basically 3rd choice striker and injury prone. i can see the potential in him, but anything about 20mil is surely too much to refuse?Apparently we rejected €25m for Icardi, maybe that was from Roma? Probably thought they could sell Destro and then sign a younger guy to replace him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baresi Posted August 10, 2014 Report Share Posted August 10, 2014 so Wolfsburg have apparently bid 25 mil euro's for Destro... (if true) surely Roma must sell, since he's basically 3rd choice striker and injury prone. i can see the potential in him, but anything about 20mil is surely too much to refuse? Apparently we rejected €25m for Icardi, maybe that was from Roma? Probably thought they could sell Destro and then sign a younger guy to replace him. Would straight-swap those two any day of the week. Need to get the rotten filth that is Icardi out of the club ASAP. Can't stand the bloke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted August 11, 2014 Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 so Wolfsburg have apparently bid 25 mil euro's for Destro... (if true) surely Roma must sell, since he's basically 3rd choice striker and injury prone. i can see the potential in him, but anything about 20mil is surely too much to refuse? Apparently we rejected €25m for Icardi, maybe that was from Roma? Probably thought they could sell Destro and then sign a younger guy to replace him. only 2 years difference between the two, so that would be a weak argument if Roma said that. They already have Totti, Ljajic, and Boriello who can all play up front, so even if they sell Destro do they really need another ST? The only thing they should be doing if Roma did need a new striker is to buy a guy like Chicharito - a guy who has a proven record of coming off the bench and scoring. ie. a poacher There's also rumours that Milan are after Alex Song. Makes a lot of sense and would love to see it go though - Song is my type of player. Song - NDJ - Poli midfield looks especially strong in a 4-3-3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted August 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2014 (edited) so Wolfsburg have apparently bid 25 mil euro's for Destro... (if true) surely Roma must sell, since he's basically 3rd choice striker and injury prone. i can see the potential in him, but anything about 20mil is surely too much to refuse?Apparently we rejected €25m for Icardi, maybe that was from Roma? Probably thought they could sell Destro and then sign a younger guy to replace him. only 2 years difference between the two, so that would be a weak argument if Roma said that. They already have Totti, Ljajic, and Boriello who can all play up front, so even if they sell Destro do they really need another ST? The only thing they should be doing if Roma did need a new striker is to buy a guy like Chicharito - a guy who has a proven record of coming off the bench and scoring. ie. a poacher There's also rumours that Milan are after Alex Song. Makes a lot of sense and would love to see it go though - Song is my type of player. Song - NDJ - Poli midfield looks especially strong in a 4-3-3Lol, I was just talking shit. Apparently Roma were/are one of the clubs interested in Icardi, and apparently there was a 25m euro bid, so I just put the 2 together for discussion's sake.FWIW, saying "only 2 years difference between the two" is the weak argument, as those are probably the 2 most important years in a player's development. We're not talking about the difference between a 26yo and a 28yo, it's a 21yo and a 23yo. Edited August 11, 2014 by Tesla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rellum Posted August 12, 2014 Report Share Posted August 12, 2014 Yeah, so Destro is a first choice strike along with Totti. They will both play roughly equal minutes to manage Totti through the season, assuming Totti plays that role. Destro is not third choice. Ljajic will float from the wing to the middle as needed. Boriello is a distant third choice and will rarely play. Destro is a key player for the squad and I can't see him being sold. New owners are trying to build a winning team, not a sales yard. Ljajic and Benatia are the ones who might be sold. Benatia is the only one likely to be sold, and it will be for a load more than 37mil that Mou and Man U are offering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted August 21, 2014 Report Share Posted August 21, 2014 looking increasingly likely Balotelli will be on his way hopefully it paves the way for a CM and CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baresi Posted August 22, 2014 Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 looking increasingly likely Balotelli will be on his way hopefully it paves the way for a CM and CB Won't be anyone decent with e20m! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted August 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 22, 2014 I don't give a fuck how disruptive he can be at times, I'd take Balo for that price any day of the week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moraiwe Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 And we're off! Most of the big names win, and I'm thrilled to see Di Natale start his testimonial season off with a brace. 195 goals now, and if you want to see a contender for the worst back-pass ever, watch the second goal here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=az1hgygogS4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) Why are all italian clubs so risk adverse, every fucking transfer is a loan with an option to make it permanent at the end of the season. coming back to this - why would Torino loan out Alessio Cerci who is 27 to Atletico Madrid? obviously, loan deals are good for younger players to get game time, or older players for clubs to get them off their wage bill (Torres) etc but Cerci - in his prime - and Torino's biggest attacking weapon with Immobile gone, it really makes no sense for me. relegation for i granata? also that Lazio defence almost forgot how good il faraone was btw.... Edited September 1, 2014 by Libero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted September 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 (edited) Why are all italian clubs so risk adverse, every fucking transfer is a loan with an option to make it permanent at the end of the season. coming back to this - why would Torino loan out Alessio Cerci who is 27 to Atletico Madrid? obviously, loan deals are good for younger players to get game time, or older players for clubs to get them off their wage bill (Torres) etc but Cerci - in his prime - and Torino's biggest attacking weapon with Immobile gone, it really makes no sense for me. relegation for i granata? also that Lazio defence almost forgot how good il faraone was btw....Is Cerci on loan? Reports say he signed a 3 year deal? And if it is a loan with an option to buy they'd obviously be getting a fee for sending him on loan as well.I don't see them getting relegated, they still have some good players. Edited September 1, 2014 by Tesla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Is Cerci on loan? Reports say he signed a 3 year deal? And if it is a loan with an option to buy they'd obviously be getting a fee for sending him on loan as well. I don't see them getting relegated, they still have some good players. well that's weird.... most websites are saying its a 3 year deal, but eurosport (where i first read it) says: The Liga champions had already been linked with the 27-year-old, but made a final push on the eve of the transfer deadline. “Atletico Madrid and Torino FC have reached an agreement for the transfer of Alessio Cerci, pending the appropriate medical examination and signing of the contract by the player. “The Italian international would commit for the next three seasons.” Cerci will fly out for his medical tomorrow and it is widely reported it’s a loan deal with option to buy for a total €19m. “The agreement reached with the Torino for the transfer of Cerci is a joy for all,” said Atletico sporting director Jose Luis Perez Caminero. “It was a clear objective to finish strengthen our squad ahead tackle all the challenges that lie ahead this season. “We’ve had to make a major effort after all the operations we have done this summer, but we are convinced that it has been worth it because I believe he can be a key to our team. “He can provide us overflow, speed, goals ... We will foster more alternatives in our attacking game.” https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/serie-torinos-cerci-joins-atletico-madrid-192606585--sow.html so who knows. just remembered they signed Quags as well. probably wont go down, but might get into some trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted September 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Is Cerci on loan? Reports say he signed a 3 year deal? And if it is a loan with an option to buy they'd obviously be getting a fee for sending him on loan as well.I don't see them getting relegated, they still have some good players. well that's weird.... most websites are saying its a 3 year deal, but eurosport (where i first read it) says: The Liga champions had already been linked with the 27-year-old, but made a final push on the eve of the transfer deadline.“Atletico Madrid and Torino FC have reached an agreement for the transfer of Alessio Cerci, pending the appropriate medical examination and signing of the contract by the player.“The Italian international would commit for the next three seasons.”Cerci will fly out for his medical tomorrow and it is widely reported it’s a loan deal with option to buy for a total €19m.“The agreement reached with the Torino for the transfer of Cerci is a joy for all,” said Atletico sporting director Jose Luis Perez Caminero. “It was a clear objective to finish strengthen our squad ahead tackle all the challenges that lie ahead this season.“We’ve had to make a major effort after all the operations we have done this summer, but we are convinced that it has been worth it because I believe he can be a key to our team.“He can provide us overflow, speed, goals ... We will foster more alternatives in our attacking game.”https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/serie-torinos-cerci-joins-atletico-madrid-192606585--sow.html so who knows. just remembered they signed Quags as well. probably wont go down, but might get into some trouble.May have signed a 3 year deal pending the option being taken, either way there would be some sort of upfront fee like 2mil for taking him on loan. Might also be one of these 'forced options' that are becoming popular because of FFP, where the option is automatically taken at the end of the season, to move payments to a later date when it works out better for the clubs in regard to FFP calculations.They have a few good players, Darmian played at the WC, Padelli has just been called up to the NT, Nocerino has played for the NT previously, and of course, 'Quags'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted September 1, 2014 Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 true, forgot about Darmian.... I know its a couple days too late, but predictions? I see: 1. Roma 2. Juventus 3. Fiorentina ------------------ 4. Napoli 5. Milan ------------------ 6. Inter Milan 7. Atalanta 8. Lazio ------------------ 18. Empoli 19. Chievo 20. Cesena (milan bias etc) Capocannoniere: Giuseppe Rossi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted September 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2014 Strong bias, putting Inter 6th.I'm confident of a top 3 finish. Plus I think we'll be making a big addition today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted September 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2014 :clap: It's gonna be a great season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 i stand by 6th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted September 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2014 Roma's new stadium looks great. Serie A slowly moving in the right direction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moraiwe Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Another solid performance from Inter... teeheehee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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