OmarOfTheWest

K i wish you read the thread because i stated i was trolling on that thread and made serious posts which most of you agreed with. underage m8 because as i am aware of it doesn't violate any rules you have on this forum. just a curious post . ill give you that one although the basis of that argument is false --- that will be all for me tonight. if an admin wishes to delete this thread than so be it. I hope none of you lads took this personally or as an attack on your club because if i wanted to attack a club via the interwebs then why am i not on shitneys forum at the moment ?

A few of you are getting a bit personal. I don't have anything against the heart, i didn't write the piece, i was just curious of your thoughts. thanks to those who answered.

I'm a Westie and saw this on our fourm today, your take on it ? if you want just read the bold part (about your club). its also what i feel, your club is not different enough to the victory. so here are my questions 1 ) Whats your opinion on the comments 2) What do you feel is the cultural difference between the victory and you lads ? 3) If the heart fold, will you follow the victory or wait for a future melbourne expansion team? Thanks.

should i be offended or what ? f**k off flog, your club is nothing but bandwagoners. Had your team been anything like ours, you'd too have f**k all supporters, so f**k up mate. i lol'd

Omar I disagree that we are unlucky. No shots on target in the first half is not unlucky. Dominating periods of games and doing nothing with it is not unlucky. What we have seen as fans is a club that has not progressed at all, not one bit since JVS left in fact we've abandoned the principles that attracted the fans to the club in favour of pragmatism, but that pragmatism has given us nothing of value and no success. You are in a fortunate position of being successful and establishing a strong on-field culture in your first season. We are not and offer nothing of value to the HAL apart from 3 easy points when visiting other teams. Replacing JA as 'punishment' and replacing him with a Sydney FC merry-go-round of coaches is a disastrous way to go, I agree but that is not the only option to continuing with JA. Yes, we will be a better team with Kewell if he ever plays but even if we are, we still need to win away from home when we can't even win at home. We will be a better team with Engelaar, and his injury was terrible luck for Aloisi as he was crucial to Aloisis's preferred style and game plan and this has had to change on the eve of the season. Relying on individual players though highlights the deficiencies in the team structure and coaching, your team wins without Ono or Hersi, Roar win without Berisha. Positives from tonight: our second half was better than our first for the first time I can remember. We didn't crumble and give up as usual when we went behind Mifsud would dominate the league with some half-decent service. Our defence is generally solid but still makes costly mistakes. JA's substitutions were better for once Problems: We still struggle in midfield with possession and good balls to the front third when we open teams up with diagonal balls across the field we slow down the play instead of increasing the ball speed. The point of shifting the focus of attack is to create space. We don't have players moving to exploit that space or to create space and good organised defences like WSW handle our predictable play in the front third with little trouble. Our shooting is tragically problematic. We have scored in 1 of 4 games. Creating chances is not the object of the game and we should not be happy with 'creating chances'. i very much agree with not being happy about creating chances. I think the reason the squad is not set up properly or with full function is as you said because engelaar was such a vital part to the squad that JA wants. However, I do not think that its an adequate reason for not being clinical as not just JA but the coaching staff in general should have sorted it out by now. I mean its not like the injury happened RIGHT before the start of the season. HEARTinator makes a very good point about us not having Hersi but still being able to manage a win. I mean we never won a match without hersi before last weeks match. I think that although there is a very prominent problem at Melbourne Heart, I believe its not as bad as many people think. I also believe the problem is somewhat cultural. I have seen many so called ' Heart Fans ' concede that their club will never be as successful as the victory or the thread about being ' Small but Strong'. IMO its a load of rubbish. If Western Sydney settled for being ' Small but Strong ' do you think the club would be as successful as it is today. The whole mentality is wrong. I think part of the reason for this is that it must be said that Melbourne Heart simply don't differ enough from the victory. Both based in the same part of Melbourne. If an individual had a choice between the victory or the heart, only relying on cultural differences, why would he/she prefer one club over another ? AND GOOD LUCK AGAINST SYDNEY

you deserved to win imo. 2-1 maybe but by deserved i mean you should have won 2-1.

I did not hear a single peep out of the RBB. Fuckin ell the Marinators made more noise last home game. Disappointing to be honest. Here I was thinking you had all these 'top boys'. if you were in the yarraside i can somewhat understand where you are coming from but from what it seemed like watching it on television the RBB were louder for most of the match. but the ' Come on you boys in red ' chant seemed the loudest so props for that, you do it better than sydney atleast.

on a serious note/non trolling note on the rare day that harry kewell can finally play a match i think your team will be much more clinical. Contrary to what many believe i think JA is a prominsing manager and his subs were good. but put it this way, your team has been unlucky for the past few matches but thats football. stand by your manager because sacking john aloisi and hiring a interim manager is not the way to go if you want to be an stable club (unlike sydney fc...)

OUT SUNG BY AWAY FANS. and i though sydney fc was pathetic. i hope your club just folds and hopefully we can get a club with real passion. thats the least the top boys at melbourne victory deserve. on the positive side the KGB / yarraside youth or whatever tryhard firm you guys have didn't manage to 'bash' anyone today.