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It's a shame all that history and reputation is getting pissed on by that fucking disgrace of a human being and the manager that allows it to happen. Credit to you for standing up to some of the morons on here who have said some disgraceful things about Evra. Manchester United 2-1 Liverpool. He who laughs last, laughs longest. Have it!

Players like Shroj allow guys like Fred, Thompson, Marrone and Behich to bomb forward. He covers everything. Not particularly good at anything, but like Cadete says, he just does a job for the team, a job which allows Heart's best to give us more offensively.

A foul is a foul. It doesn't say in the rule books that it has to be a bad foul to be a penalty, it just has to be a foul. Welbeck did not dive. The contact was there, and he stumbled. Ivanovic made no contact with the ball. That by very definition is a foul, and you can lament it for it's softness but it doesn't change the fact for one second that Ivanovic made a tackle, touched the player and didn't touch the ball. You didn't complain last year when Zhirkov won a similair penalty after the slightest contact from Smalling did you? http://dai.ly/eo2QuK Then, like on these two occassions, a tackle was made, the attacker was caught, and the ball was not touched. That's a foul, inside the box. Whether Cahill was in or outside the box was borderline, but you are absolutely joking yourself if you think he touched the ball. http://www.footytube.com/video/chelsea-manchester-united-feb05-104054?ref=tchan_ov_vidgrid Your assertion that Luiz was "covering" is absolute nonsense. He stops chasing as soon as Welbeck is beyond him. Free kick/penalty, whatever. It was a foul and Welbeck was beyond Luiz when he was brought down where he would have been one-on-one with Cech.

Exactly. I'm not saying either was stone wall, but to pretend that there was absolutely no case for either is daft.

The first one was soft. Evra looked for it, but at the end of the day, Sturridge made a tackle and didn't win the ball. That's a foul by anyone's definition, and the same applies to Ivanovic. No one complained last season when United were on the end of a similair decision in which Ivanovic went down under the slightest contact from Smalling. Similairly, no one wants to talk about the fact that Cahill should have been sent off and United awarded at the very least a free kick on the edge of the area in the opening exchanges. Here's an interesting site you might like to have a read of: http://www.debatabledecisions.com/

Shroj at least serves a purpose, even if it is an archaic one. David Williams is being exposed for his lack of technique in a team that demands it in the final third. His Heart career to date has been riddled with poor crosses, poor passes and poor touches that have resulted in turnovers all over the pitch. In the dying stages last week, his attempt to switch the play evaded everyone in Red and White and found the touchline, killing what was our final chance on goal. I don't want to be overtly negative, but his technical deficiencies are going to make life very hard for him at the Heart, particularly when he can't seem to use the gifts he does have, which are mostly in the athletic category, to their full potential. Fingers crossed he'll find his feet.

I know, yeah? Cahill should have been sent off for that last man tackle that took out Welbeck. God forbid he gives a penalty for a tackle that makes no connection with the ball but does with the player. The nerve of that bald bastard!

Happy to chip in and help on this.

Always remembered. Rest In Peace, Busby's Finest.

O'Neil is a great manager. I'm a big fan of his, I'll never understand how he was out of a job for so long. Did he not want to come back into football for a while after Villa? Was good to see Frazier Campbell get on the scoresheet as well. Talented player whose injury woes continue to undo him.

Hammerhead, what do you think of Allardyce gambling on Ravel Morrison? I can tell you right now the kid is outrageously talented, but he's a very loose cannon. From a very rough part of Manchester, his agent's a money hungry cunt and he's got a shocking crew around him. If you can get him right he'll be an absolute star though.

Well I'll just leave this link here for those who are serious fans: http://www.ozmufc.com/ My own initiative for United fans living in Australia.

I have made one, but it's a bit old: I'd make more but it's hard to get pics that are big enough to make a good job of it.

I'll give you credit where it's due scouse, you have trolled the living fuck out of this thread!

In all seriousness, there must be another United fan on these forums....