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1 hour ago, xXCiTyZeNXx said:
I understand what u r saying. We did have a brilliant first half of the season but as clubs learnt how we played, we never changed the way we played and we started losing stupid games (newcastle 2-1, sydney 1-3) and drawing stupid games (perth 3-3, central coast 2-2). These r only a few games r am saying but there is heaps more like the 2 sydney teams 2 weeks ago and the 2 derbies we lost. Heaps of people r fed up as we could have had an ACL spot and should have came second. We probably had the best players in the league but 2 shit coaches who didnt change the structure of how we played
A brilliant first half of the season (I'd even argue that that's a bit over the top) is a hell of a lot better than we've seen in many seasons. Most of us are used to being resigned to the fact that we're making up the numbers by Christmas Day. Only last season have we even looked a pretty certain top six team throughout and we've at least managed to do that this year.
So, I agree, this year has been a bitter, tragic mess. But nevertheless, it's probably the high water mark for this club to date.
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2 hours ago, haz said:
Valkanis in his post match interview said Bouzanis had a "good game". Wtf is Valkanis smoking? Bouzanis only faced one shot and almost fucked up 3 times.
I'd love to read Roy's notes he was taking down during the game.Yeah, I wouldn't go as far as to say he was poor, but Bouzanis barely had anything to do and still gave us a few tense moments, where he seemed a bit too keen for some 'me time' with the ball (and ultimately doing nothing constructive with i anyway), rather than just booting the bloody thing out of the danger area.
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51 minutes ago, xXCiTyZeNXx said:
We played shit last night. A guy i sit next to was fuming when valkanis was taking colazo off.
He was saying," y r u taking one of our best players off. He is a fucking marquee for fuck sake.
Valkanis just looked at him.
This has been one of the worst seasons of the club. We have the best players in the league on paper but a shit coach. U would have thought he would have learnt something from Gombau, Amore and Van Shit. Yes we won last night but that doesnt mean we r any better. We will probably beat Perth next week because Perth r shit. But 3rd place should have been ours a while ago with all the stupid draws and losses we had. We wont win the finals. The only way we will is if the coach changes but even thats gonna be a massive challenge
That's the problem though. We have underachieved, no question about it, but assuming we finish fourth and win a home final, this year we will have:
- won our first major silverware
- equalled our best ladder position (we could even have our highest finish ever, with a decent chance - on paper at least - of finishing third)
- had our second best home and away season (in terms of points)
- equalled our best finals position
- earned our second ever home final
How can you have such an incredibly disappointing season, that's simultaneously the best season the club has ever had? Welcome to the life of a Melbourne City supporter: perpetual disappointment, with just the bare minimum of positives that will keep us suckers coming back.
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I think Kamau was great as well. Made a really positive start with his intensity and continued from there.
Colazo had a number of dangerous balls (including the corner that led to Cahill's goal) and I thought he did his job really well. He seems more like an icing on the cake player than someone who will ever dominate week-in/week-out in this league, but we really shouldn't need him to be anything more than that, with the right players around him.
It will be interesting to see what mindset the team takes to Perth now, whether they seem satisfied stumbling into a (likely) home final and fail to show up, or they go all out to try to secure third spot.
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Just now, GreenSeater said:
Or... and I know this is a crazy idea... enjoy the game however you see fit? If you want so sing and jump around, go to active area. If you want to sit and watch a game of football, go to the rest of the stadium! If only there were different seating options within the ground that allowed for different matchday experiences based on the way you wish to contribute to the atmosphere as a supporter
You've just illustrated my problem with the way the active area went about things tonight. The two chants that I highlighted are essentially demands for fans in the other sections of the ground to do the same thing that the active area is doing, something that personally gets my nose out of joint. And this goes especially for the "stand up" thing. Nothing is more stupid than when they break it out at the most mundane points of the game, or when the team is playing like crap and you have half the people in an area (if that) standing up. But because a random selection of people in the area are standing up and blocking the view of everyone behind them, others are forced to stand up too, not to join in, but simply so they can see the game.
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Just now, jeffplz said:
>contributes to making a chant look shit
>complains that it was shit
Um, no I didn't. I called it out for what it was: blatant attention whoring.
It may be a surprise to some of you, but most of us are actually there to watch the game, not the active area.
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Good to get a win that seemed about as comfortable as 1-0 can ever be, but really, we should have won that about 3-0, which could end up biting us, given we sit in fourth place on the ladder, one goal behind Brisbane.
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Honestly can't believe what I'm reading...people think the active area was good tonight??!
The beggars that I saw walking up Swan Street on the way back from the game were less pitiful, as far as I'm concerned. Instead of "Ole, Ole" or "If you love City, stand up" on repeat for about 20 minutes straight in the second half, why beat around the bush? Just chant "Please look at us...please look at us". The dead silence that they received in response to their commands for the rest of the crowd to act as their parrots was mildly amusing, but some of us are actually focused on the game and couldn't really care less whether you're there or not. Just in case you weren't aware.
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1 hour ago, Shahanga said:
Well we are still hanging around aren't we?
Touche.
With regards to their internal reporting and updates of any long-term injuries (say, longer than three weeks), for a while I've pretty much taken any official announcement (beyond naming the player in the final lineup on match day) to be somewhere between taking creative licence and deliberately withholding information from supporters and members.
Either Jakobsen was never the slightest chance of playing last week (in which case, they just named him to delay the anger from supporters for another week), or he has had some sort of setback in the past week, which they haven't said a word about.
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So, a week after apparently being in the squad and a match day decision on whether to play, he's out of the squad altogether, without any explanation. Surprise, surprise. Do they think we're complete idiots?
I wish the A-League had a similar Thursday night show to coincide with the announcement of the teams (like the Tursday night AFL TV shows), so the commentators would actually put the blowtorch on the club publicly about issues like this. As it is, unless you play on Friday night, the first time you see a bit of impartial 'expert' analysis about your team is Sunday evening, where everyone has already forgotten about story lines like 'where the f*** is Jakobsen?'
Edit: I should have added how perplexing it is to hear the commentators make reference to his ongoing absence and trying to justify it with the explanation that they want to make sure he's cherry ripe for finals. FFS, you're in an absolute dogfight to get a home final (at best) out of this absolute shambles of a season. Has it not dawned on anyone yet that the games actually matter? That there's a reason that the top two teams during the season invariably end up playing against each other in the grand final? Apparently they think we've already sewn up the league, not Sydney. Why not rest our entire first team and just ease through these last three rounds to finish fifth, with a trip to Perth in the first week of finals to mercifully end the season?
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On 28/03/2017 at 10:37 AM, Dylan said:
would be a typical city thing to win this
Yep, I reckon we'll win.
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Scoreboard flattered us last night.
When I think that if we get a win in the first week of the finals, it's the best season in the history of the team (and maybe it is anyway, with the Cup win), I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
I don't know how many times I need to ask: but how in the hell does this club expect to get new members and big crowds, when we are consistently this much worse than our local rivals, who play in front of packed home stadiums every week?
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12 hours ago, haz said:
How many times have we scored first and not won?
And vice versa: how many times have we come from behind to win? If those aren't signs of a mentally fragile team, I don't know what is. It's got to the point where I almost hate scoring in the first 10 minutes, because we'll probably be level (at best) at half time.
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22 minutes ago, GreenSeater said:
I wonder if any of you fellas were to provide your instagram username to us, would we find nothing but pictures of you at work on it? Bloody hell. This is pretty ridiculous. I'm not defending Brattan, because he has been poor, but you're really going to have a crack at him for having a life outside of football? Go look at Leo Messi's instagram. Of his last 30 pictures only one of them is of him playing. Does this mean Messi isn't focussed enough on his football? Come on fellas I get you're upset but this is pretty ridiculous.
It's like a lot of talking points about players and teams: if you're winning and playing well, it's fine; if you're losing and playing like shit, it's not a great look.
I would compare it to Kilkenny doing his nut whenever a teammate makes an error. When you're mid-lower table, it's a sign of disharmony, but if we were 40 points clear on top like Sydney, no doubt the pundits would say what a great sign it is that the players care so much and can have robust exchanges of opinion.
But in essence I agree with you: Instagram probably isn't the best indicator of a player's passion to his craft.
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6 hours ago, Jovan said:
I'll believe it when I see. Ha.
Seriously a massive in and of course the whole goalkeeping question to be answered. And a win here which won't be easy would go a long way to locking in 3rd.
Looks like a pretty clear case of the coaching staff and the media team not getting their stories straight. Jakobsen didn't even rate a mention in the team news article.
Reading between the lines, I would have thought that if Jakobsen was actually expected to play, he'd be the first or second (after Cahill) player mentioned in that article.I'd bet $50 he doesn't suit up.
QuoteFriday’s clash will see the two in-form sides go head-to-head with City looking to cement their spot in the top three while the Wanderers will be fighting to secure a finals spot.
City will see Tim Cahill exit the side through international duty as the forward prepares to play a part against Iraq and UAE in the national team’s crucial qualifiers.
Daniel Arzani, Denis Genreau and Braedyn Crowley have been added to the extended squad for the contest but Michael Valkanis may look to last week’s bench to replace Cahill in the eleven with Nick Fitzgerald and Bruce Kamau having an immediate impact off the sidelines.
Goalkeeper Dean Bouzanis also returns to the squad after serving his five-week suspension. Competition for the number one jersey will heat up once again with the impressive form of Thomas Sorensen during Bouzanis’ suspension period.
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Read more at http://www.melbournecityfc.com.au/article/team-news-city-name-squad-to-take-on-wanderers/1e42lk4ksid7b1eihp1xgegj59#c6BTLIfS3wtrksSL.99 -
Both fair points. At the end of the day, we should be at least fighting for 1-2, not 3. It's baffling, but with the constant upbeat themes coming out of the club following disappointing results, you'd think it was an AFL team, just trying to lock in a top four spot and go from there once the finals start. So many of our losses and draws this year have been tremendously disappointing and it's only compounded when the players and coaches don't seem to grasp the importance of every game.
Having said that, I think it's only a matter of time before we become a similar team to Sydney this year, getting one point when we should have lost, getting three when we should have drawn (rather than doing the opposite, as we pretty much do currently) and going months without a loss. It's just testing our collective patience in the meantime.
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On 08/03/2017 at 9:57 AM, thisphantomfortress said:
I'd go one step further and say Franjic's goal as well.
The outrage of "City bias" if all three made the top 5 though would be too much to for Fox to take.
And perhaps it's City bias the other way, but I can't for the life of me figure out how Ochieng's goal is one of the top five in the league this season. It looked absolutely regulation, to me.
I wouldn't demand Brandan's and Franjic's as top five, because I probably don't watch enough non-City games to make a reasoned judgement, but those were pretty clearly more special than Ochieng's to me, unless you're factoring in Ochieng's being in the dying stages and sealing a drought-breaking victory for Adelaide...blah...blah...blah. Purely from the skill and touch involved, it's not in the same class. If Fornaroli was presented with the same opportunity as Ochieng and failed to convert, we'd look at it as a squandered chance that should have been buried.
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I wouldn't be comfortable with Kewell walking straight in to the top job. After serving a decent apprenticeship, perhaps.
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Brisbane won't be helped by the suspension of Michael Theo for two games (at home to Victory and Central Coast) and by a mid-week game in the ACL, prior to the final round of the season.
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23 hours ago, Shahanga said:
That never made sense to me when you have a visa spot tied up.
Yeah, there's definitely that aspect. There's also the other issue that Sorensen didn't actually do anything wrong to find himself on the bench in the first place. He was red carded and suspended for covering for a teammate's blunder, sacrificing himself for the good of the team and helping to preserve the win (Bouzanis was also excellent when he came on in Round 1, it must be said).
So sure, City could have kept Bouzanis in favour of Sorensen, either to give him a few games of experience (say, up to six, spread over the course of the season), or they could have kept him in the starting position, until he had a howler of a game. He's had a few of those, yet he remained, with Sorensen staying in the apparent doghouse, for God knows what reason. I can't remember a game this season where I've gone away thinking "Gee, it's lucky we had Bouzanis between the sticks, rather than Sorensen." And that's because Sorensen is simply a better keeper and because he's also the natural leader that we need to marshal our inexperienced and limited defenders.
It's just been a baffling decision to keep him on the bench, getting splinters, when there was no good reason for it. You make a decision for the future when you're anchored to the bottom of the table and going nowhere fast, not when you should be competing for premierships/championships.
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Even though this season has been overall, incredibly disappointing, if we can make it to third from here and make the grand final (which would also ensure that we have a better year than Victory, which I think is absolutely vital to continue to attract new supporters to choose City: to consistently be the best team in the city), that's a good result overall. If we win the grand final from here, it's a fantastic season.
After so many false dawns and let-downs (the most recent, obviously being the post-Cup win opportunity to make a league-wide statement with a tough schedule in December, which started well enough with a 1-1 draw against Brisbane on a short turnaround, then pissing away four consecutive games against Sydney, Victory, Perth and Central Coast, for three points - which should have been unquestionably been twelve), I strongly believe that the turning point will be like the Boston Red Sox ending their championship drought: down 3-0 to the hated Yankees in a best of 7 series and somehow pulling it out 4-3, then sweeping the championship series. It's going to happen eventually.
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This is a massive game. I think that we should be aiming for four points from the next two weeks and obviously a win on Friday puts us in a great position to secure that.
Top two is what should have been absolutely the goal at the start of the year and we've failed there, but third spot would still be the best result in the club's history and put us in a terrific position to win two pieces of silverware. I know I shouldn't get ahead of myself, so let's just worry about winning this game.
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1 hour ago, haz said:
Wonder what will happen if we get a Novillo (without the attitude problems) as an injury replacement for 6 months next season player amazingly well (10 goals, 5 assists etc) do we force Brandan to mutually terminate or will the club only have 4 visas banking on the injury replacement 5th visa to be a long term player.
If it happens, it's one of those nice problems to have. To be honest, as much fun as he was/is, Brandan is pretty much the minimum of what I think we should expect from one of our visa spots, and that's the sort of value we should be putting on the players who earn them. They're absolutely critical spots to nail 4-5 out of 5. We've been operating with very little latitude there all season, because we were actively choosing not to play a visa goalkeeper until we had no choice.
A hypothetical Novillio (without the baggage) v Brandan would be the hypothetical Novillo for me, every day of the week. It would be a tough situation, but realistically, I think it's more likely that one of our as yet unsigned future visas also gets injured, or is a flop and a Brandan v sensational injury replacement list squeeze won't occur.
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Haven't won two league games in a row since the win against Victory at Etihad in mid-October. Three points, even if we look as awful getting them as we did against Central Coast, would represent progress.
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It's unlikely, but if Perth beats Brisbane and us by 3+ goals each and Brisbane gets something out of its last game, that would put us on level pegging with Perth and behind Brisbane, so it depends on what the tie breaker is, after goal difference. If it's H2H, Perth would jump us; if it's wins, we stay in front.
Now that we've (probably) done enough for at least a fourth place finish, it's difficult to know what to hope for from Perth v Brisbane. The Heart/City supporter in me would probably like a draw, just to cement the home final, but a tiny piece of me would like a big Perth victory to put us in third at the end of the round and give us a golden opportunity to cross the Nullarbor next week and actually earn that third spot at the end of the season, in a finals-like atmosphere..