Sash Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 So true, but many ppl on this forum refuse to listen whenever someone makes this point... Of course it's true, but some of us enjoy seeing the benefits of our young players developing. The best ones go onto bigger leagues which is great, and the ones that don't can become the core of our side for the next few years - players like Behich, Dugandzic, Marrone, and even Kalmar, Williams etc. I don't see that we'd be in a better position by holding on to some one like Beauchamp instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drcolossus1 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Just wanted to say a big thanks to Hamill. Was with the team from the start and definitely deserves to go on to bigger and better things. Loved the goal against Adelaide(?). Would probably have been a subs player for the some of the season again depending on how Aloisi structures the defence, so I'm happy for him to go and show the world what he can do. On a side note, even though we may be a feeder club for Asian and Europeon clubs, I feel a lot of pride that the boys we have trained will one day be socceroos and represent the country. I have no doubt that Babalj, Goods and Hamill will feature for Australia in the future and they will always be MHFC boys in my mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Just wanted to say a big thanks to Hamill. Was with the team from the start and definitely deserves to go on to bigger and better things. Loved the goal against Adelaide(?). Would probably have been a subs player for the some of the season again depending on how Aloisi structures the defence, so I'm happy for him to go and show the world what he can do. On a side note, even though we may be a feeder club for Asian and Europeon clubs, I feel a lot of pride that the boys we have trained will one day be socceroos and represent the country. I have no doubt that Babalj, Goods and Hamill will feature for Australia in the future and they will always be MHFC boys in my mind. true. at the moment im happy if we keep developing young players, and then selling them for profit. allows us to buy our core. ie. Fred, Germano, Tadic.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 @drcolossus1 let's also hope once they have finished their european/asian adventures, they one day come back to heart as established players and repay the club by guiding us to trophies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M-H-F-C Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 @drcolossus1 let's also hope once they have finished their european/asian adventures, they one day come back to heart as established players and repay the club by guiding us to trophies If there established players you'd rather hope they stay in Europe, better for our National Team, but i do see where your coming from just thought it was good to consider the above point aswell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 With Curtis Good set to move to English side Newcastle United, Heart had hoped to retain Hamill, who was said to be in blistering form in pre-season this statement just puts the nail in the coffin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Of course it's true, but some of us enjoy seeing the benefits of our young players developing. The best ones go onto bigger leagues which is great, and the ones that don't can become the core of our side for the next few years - players like Behich, Dugandzic, Marrone, and even Kalmar, Williams etc. I don't see that we'd be in a better position by holding on to some one like Beauchamp instead. IMO its simple reality: If we had more games with not two teenagers paired together in central defence we would have won a home final. I also dont see how are best players leaving is "great" for Heart? How does this win us games and championships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markn Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 One of the great things about the A League is that teams can come off terrible seasons one year to play in a GF the next year. Unlike those sides in the bottom half of the Top European Leagues we do not need to consolidate ourselves with the players we have groomed for others, IMO winning a championship is literally an achievable goal for every A League side. Agree 100% This is also the benefit of having a salary cap. Every team can recruit for the next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sash Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 IMO its simple reality: If we had more games with not two teenagers paired together in central defence we would have won a home final. I also dont see how are best players leaving is "great" for Heart? How does this win us games and championships. The first point is fair enough. But when Colosimo was available, the preferred pairing seemed to be him and Good. And when Madaschi was there, it seems to have been him and Hamill. And at the start of the year, we still had the Thompson experiment happening. Thompson didn't work out and Colosimo and Madaschi weren't available all the time. But out of 5 players who played as CB's last year, three were late 20's or older. It turned out that Colosimo had an interrupted season and Thompson wasn't as good as either of them. Anyway, I agree that young players need good experienced players around them. On the other point, we have a different point of view, but that's ok. The tangible benefit is the profit we make which can go back into the football department. There may also be intangible benefits in the links we develop with clubs and the reputation we can develop as a club which nurtures talent. But as a fan, I'll also have an enormous sense of pride when Curtis Good lines up for his first senior EPL game or when Eli Babal scores his first Bundesliga goal or whatever he goes on to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natalie182 Posted July 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 On the other point, we have a different point of view, but that's ok. The tangible benefit is the profit we make which can go back into the football department. There may also be intangible benefits in the links we develop with clubs and the reputation we can develop as a club which nurtures talent. But as a fan, I'll also have an enormous sense of pride when Curtis Good lines up for his first senior EPL game or when Eli Babal scores his first Bundesliga goal or whatever he goes on to do. So true. When I watch overseas games that have an Aussie playing its nice to see how they go and all. But when I start to see Heart players in big European games I will be so happy and excited. It'll kind of feel personal or something, like, we were there when they started..... This will never happen for my AFL team and never happened for my NSL team. So I will appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 For me when the Heart shirt comes of a player I really cease to care anymore. (Of course except if a player was signed by Celtic - Even then I think I'd prefer them @ Heart.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 For me when the Heart shirt comes of a player I really cease to care anymore. I don't really care about most of the players that have left the club over the past 2 season. But surely you're still fond of players like Eli? I'd love for him too do well. I'll also follow Good's career fairly closely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baresi Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 For me when the Heart shirt comes of a player I really cease to care anymore. (Of course except if a player was signed by Celtic - Even then I think I'd prefer them @ Heart.) What about Gerald? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markn Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 For me when the Heart shirt comes of a player I really cease to care Particuarly if they leave to play for a competing a league team. Ala goodwin, heffer, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natalie182 Posted July 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 Yes, I pretty much only care about the young players who go to overseas clubs. Dont care that much about the older/foreign players that leave, or players that go to other ALeague clubs. Therefore, I care about Babalj, Good and Hamill. Must admit, I'm also curious to see how Amini goes at Dortmund. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 17, 2012 Report Share Posted July 17, 2012 haven't seen how much we got for him, have they said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Torn Asunder Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Looks like Hamill passed his medical http://www.esifc.com/news/news_view.php?type=2&b_table=news&idx=273 Love this one - in the Kung Fu pose http://www.esifc.com/news/news_view.php?type=2&b_table=medianews&idx=544 it translates into something like "Photo of Seongnam's 'New Plant', factory fitted with weapons and they shine." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 good to see he's been given the number 4. They obviously see him as a player capable of being in the starting lineup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 good to see he's been given the number 4. They obviously see him as a player capable of being in the starting lineup You do realise we gave Worm the number 7... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 You do realise we gave Worm the number 7... he was signed as a starting 11 player. Obviously if you don't play well you'll be cut from the squad, that goes for any player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted August 11, 2012 Report Share Posted August 11, 2012 Brendan Hamill scored a well taken header in the latest Seongnam game. At the 1 minute mark in the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu2s7ItWXRc Seongnam ultimately lost 3-2 though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drcolossus1 Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Not bad. He will thrive there. Wouldn't be surprised if he ends up in Germany or maybe Holland in the next few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keeper Posted August 12, 2012 Report Share Posted August 12, 2012 Nice goal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 Just found a description of how Hamill is going in the K-League: In Korea's K-League on Saturday, Brendan Hamill opened his goalscoring account in his second appearance for new club Seongnam Ilhwa in their 3-2 home loss to FC Seoul. Hamill, who debuted in midweek, started again on Saturday, levelling the scores at 1-1 on 57 minutes when he ghosted into the box to head home Javier Reina's cross. The former Melbourne Heart defender was replaced on 77 minutes with Seongnam on their way to victory, before conceding two late goals to lose 3-2. http://www.ggarmy.com/News/Latest-News/Socceroos-Central---Weekend-Review-%2818%29 So he's been a starter in both games Seongnam have played since his midweek debut. He's scored a goal in one of those two matches. And after he was substituted with 13 minutes to go Seongnam conceded twice turning a 2-1 lead into a 3-2 loss. Hamill could hardly of had a better beginning at his new club. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted August 13, 2012 Report Share Posted August 13, 2012 sounds like they need to leave him on the ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
perthheart Posted August 14, 2012 Report Share Posted August 14, 2012 In that video looks like he got skinned diving in for their first goal though. May not of been him though couldn't clearly see number on back of the shirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 BJ would/will be getting some premium Korean tail over in Seongnam, lordy jesus. Byun also signed on at Seongnam recently, so hopefully he will settle in alright. It's a fucking big transition moving to Korea at his age. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted August 15, 2012 Report Share Posted August 15, 2012 ^ BJ is smashing Korean models, no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huzie Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 Back in Melbourne, holiday or more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gundam Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 K-league season is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 we should sign him as an injury replacement for dugandzic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted December 13, 2012 Report Share Posted December 13, 2012 we should sign him as an injury replacement for dugandzic Or we could just play Vranks (Who is already on our list) at CB instead of SC... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theresonlyonebzamora Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 we should sign him as an injury replacement for dugandzic Or we could just play Vranks (Who is already on our list) at CB instead of SC... this. we have four (five if you include thompson) centre backs, we don't need anymore. people would be saying vrankovic is as good as hamill if he gets the fucking game time that hammill did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted December 14, 2012 Report Share Posted December 14, 2012 Hamill can comfortably play as a Mid, he did for us and has done so in Korea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozza Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Someone just told me they reckon Hamill is signing for us for 2 years... I'd take him for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tbitm Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Someone just told me they reckon Hamill is signing for us for 2 years... I'd take him for sure JVS getting his players back. Would be stoked if true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliMate Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Unless it's on bare minimum wage I think it is a waste. Vrankovic>Hammill IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 I wish people would watch Vrankovic instead of just assuming he was a saviour. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baresi Posted March 25, 2014 Report Share Posted March 25, 2014 Unless it's on bare minimum wage I think it is a waste. Vrankovic>Hammill IMO. Disagree. Hammill would get the gig on versatility alone! His ability to play at full back and in midfield is extremely helpful, especially in a JvS team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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