Torn Asunder Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 At the recent fan forum SM said that the club was working towards developing a pathway for talented young footballers, from the junior ranks, right through to the A-League. Obviously at this stage the club does not have the finances for a youth academy. Does anyone have any suggestions for an interim solution that would allow the club to assist and facilitate the development of young players, and still tie them to the club? My thoughts; run a yearly MH trial for juniors, with the best one or two players getting a contract and sponsorship by the club (funded by sponsors), and then these players would sent to a renowned football academy (see link for example). http://www.goal.com/en-au/news/4025/features/2012/05/29/3133544/analysis-following-the-footsteps-of-aimar-and-saviola-australian- The club could keep track of these players and provide updates on its website, and hopefully one or two would transition to the Youth League and ultimately the A-league, or they could be onsold based on the sponsorship contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 My thoughts; run a yearly MH trial for juniors, with the best one or two players getting a contract and sponsorship by the club (funded by sponsors), and then these players would sent to a renowned football academy. ill try out for it see this link: http://www.sedagroup.com.au/Programs/66/Overview.html im not sure if it has the transition from Seda to Melbourne Heart but is like a pathway sort of thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 I really dont understand why we cant have junior teams all he way down to u8s or whatever the lowest is. The excuse given is always financial reasons, but if all these random local teams can afford it, then MHFC should be able to considering the higher reputation our club has, the juniors would be able to get better sponsorships and what not compared to these local clubs. The club is probably busy focusing on other matters at the moment, but it would be something to look at as soon as they can. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 (edited) I agree. We should be taking advantage of those parents who are prepared to splash the cash of their kids football like Green Gully has done so successfully in recent years. You can also say the same about South and Dandy (How there are prob a few cultural reasons in their strong junior setups as well. Parents want their kids playing this game: We could really make use of this opportunity on a variety of levels such as financial, for future supporters and of course for our stars of the future. Edited June 4, 2012 by cadete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzatron Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 It would probably only cost $500 per team from U8s to U12 per season. Probably double or triple each year grade after that. I reckon my baseball team rego was only $50 for juniors, that paid for uniforms some equipment, and it all lasted a few years. Football shorts and jerseys a few balls could easily be funded for $500. I'm sure it would be a better investment than Maycon as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 I really dont understand why we cant have junior teams all he way down to u8s or whatever the lowest is. The excuse given is always financial reasons, but if all these random local teams can afford it, then MHFC should be able to considering the higher reputation our club has, the juniors would be able to get better sponsorships and what not compared to these local clubs. The club is probably busy focusing on other matters at the moment, but it would be something to look at as soon as they can. Don't give them anything else to think about at this stage. 2012 has not actually been that good so far... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 It would probably only cost $500 per team from U8s to U12 per season. Probably double or triple each year grade after that. I reckon my baseball team rego was only $50 for juniors, that paid for uniforms some equipment, and it all lasted a few years. Football shorts and jerseys a few balls could easily be funded for $500. I'm sure it would be a better investment than Maycon as well. my parents are playing $550 for my rego + playing shorts + playing socks + boots + monthly things like raffle tickets and club nights. even if players have to supply their own ball and fork out more money for the shirt, socks, and the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Also i wish we could do more to have more Victorians make the joeys squads etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALZALOL Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Count me in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Someone once told me the kinda of money that parents put into Dandy for their kids and it was an amazing figure... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schrecky Posted June 4, 2012 Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 Not sure the pathway is something MH should sort on there own. I've been trying to find a path for my kids and there is not a lot out there. There is the FFV champions league/SAP programs , if you can get a look in there... The pirahnas are probably the only decent academy out there at a cost of $2800 per year and that doesn't guarantee you are training with good kids, just ones with money.. But they are setup for training 6 days a week.. I'm not convinced about Dandy either - not sure its the culture i would want kids learning with (from my few experiences down there).. If MH were to start an academy, for all levels - It probably would be latrobe based, which limits access to many kids. To do it properly they would need multiple feeder bases..(North/South/East/West). like AFS (http://footballskool.com.au/ ) - but they only operate in the summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted June 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 4, 2012 these are the types of academies the club could send the 'winner(s)' of the trial via a sponsorship... http://www.edukick.com/edukick_international_soccer_camps.asp?cat=70 http://www.soccercampsinternational.com/home The edukick runs their camp like a boarding school with up to year long programs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
borris Posted June 23, 2012 Report Share Posted June 23, 2012 There are a multitude of clubs out there, but finding a good one is a nightmare ( i'm still looking for my 8 year old (currently playing under 11's)). I don't think parents would mind paying $500 a season for their child (currently paying $400 for 18 games and 1 training sesson a week), as long as they are getting good training and enjoying it. Dont think having it at latrobe will be an issue either, as the current leauge setups have you travelling half way around melbourne anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 The youth league should be youth, not 18yr olds. let's have a youth league of 16yr olds and promote those that deserve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted June 29, 2012 Report Share Posted June 29, 2012 Dandy profited from having one of the best VPL coaches, plus a wide variety of imagrants, even though it's an Albanian club, it caters to all of Dandy, probably the more multicultural club in the VPL, other than SM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted June 30, 2012 Report Share Posted June 30, 2012 What about the vast army of juniors at Gully? Or even the system @ Richmond? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted September 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Newcastle leading the way... http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/a-league/news/1119547/Jets-launch-junior-excellence-program Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Che Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Newcastle leading the way... http://theworldgame....ellence-program iirc the Mariners have had a similar thing for quite some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted September 7, 2012 Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Newcastle leading the way... http://theworldgame....ellence-program iirc the Mariners have had a similar thing for quite some time. Exactly, in fact neither CCM or Newy are leading the way, its part of greater plan for FFA to restructure local football which includes as one of many the changes:A League sides have their own local Youth sides. In fact league restructure has already started to begin over in the WA State System, Newcastle United and CCM are most likely one of the first to both ahead with their participation because of having a smaller local football network in their region to most of the sides in capital cities. If you want to hear more about it u can find a lot of discussion on it on both those Australian Soccer Forums out there that actually feature Posters who are involved at the State League level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted September 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2012 Is the Newcastle and CCM model appropriate for Heart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 At the recent fan forum SM said that the club was working towards developing a pathway for talented young footballers, from the junior ranks, right through to the A-League. Obviously at this stage the club does not have the finances for a youth academy. Does anyone have any suggestions for an interim solution that would allow the club to assist and facilitate the development of young players, and still tie them to the club? My thoughts; run a yearly MH trial for juniors, with the best one or two players getting a contract and sponsorship by the club (funded by sponsors), and then these players would sent to a renowned football academy (see link for example). http://www.goal.com/...ola-australian- The club could keep track of these players and provide updates on its website, and hopefully one or two would transition to the Youth League and ultimately the A-league, or they could be onsold based on the sponsorship contract. I think this would be a good start, or just action to take. Like they do in South America,, my Argentinian house mate says River plate ect have these and thousands of kids turn up and you either make it or get cut week after week until it is down to the final couple dozen ect. Could do this, then make a team out of them obviously or just input them into a new academy. I also think the Cost factor sounds like a wank, as mentioned playing for any club costs money why not pay a small fee if invited and can afford it for Heart training/academy. Also if you find 1-2 players to make first team a year it would be a good 50K invested imo. Anyway seems that the FFA is on top of a better youth system, as a point to create better junior level National teams and a breeding program. The fact that we didnt qualify for the Olympics is a joke enough for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted September 8, 2012 Report Share Posted September 8, 2012 Is the Newcastle and CCM model appropriate for Heart? As I said above, even if it isn't it appropiate will be used anyway as it is not a Newy or CCM model but a FFA initiative being put in process nationwide... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted September 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2012 http://m.smh.com.au/sport/football/best-of-both-worlds-jets-offer-vision-sky-blues-the-glitz-20120908-25l16.html Seems to be generating some good press for the Jets... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted September 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 http://m.442.com.au/News/Article.aspx?CIID=315015 More plaudits for the Jets youth development pathway. Based on what's been said by others in this topic about Newcastle NOT being the first club to do this, the other front running youth development teams must be spewing that they never received this level of press Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted September 10, 2012 Report Share Posted September 10, 2012 actually considering doing this..... looks mint as. http://www.soccercampsinternational.com/ac-milan-soccer-camp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted September 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2012 actually considering doing this..... looks mint as. http://www.soccercampsinternational.com/ac-milan-soccer-camp Go for it dude, you should contact Scott Munn and ask him and the club to grant you a scholarship (that is of course if you are any good!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted September 14, 2012 Report Share Posted September 14, 2012 Go for it dude, you should contact Scott Munn and ask him and the club to grant you a scholarship (that is of course if you are any good!) im trying to do work experience there early next year so ill bring it up then if im able to. as for if im any good.... well... everyone can improve on something! ahahhaha jokessss.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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