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[belaguttman]

1 hour ago, cadete said:

At an actual ground then yes... outside of the ground on Game Day, or at their new arena of Antifa Protests there would be at least a dozen incidents only slightly less serious.

I agree but you can't punish the franchise for events that happen outside the ground, the franchise has no control over this, it's solely a Police matter

[cadete]

1 hour ago, belaguttman said:

I agree but you can't punish the franchise for events that happen outside the ground, the franchise has no control over this, it's solely a Police matter

The FFA may not view it as something than can punish clubs for but they def dont see it as solely a Police Matter... hence "The Banned are with Us Banner" that has been displayed in NT for at least as far back as MHFC were around.

[belaguttman]

If 'the banned are (truly) with us' then of course that is a FFA and visitor franchise matter and deduct even more points

[jw1739]

Alan Baro confirmed as a signing.

[Thrillhouse]

he looks like a dud

[Thrillhouse]

salty cunts had the finkler disallowed free kick in their highlights video at the game today

saw a rumour last night thay bray might be going to them, big risk having just him and thomas as gk's

[Nate]

Troisi signed, and under the cap.

[bt50]

7 minutes ago, Nate said:

Troisi signed, and under the cap.

Would have definitely taken him under the cap for us, but think hes overrated nevertheless. Bruce will do a better job imo

[Nate]

20 minutes ago, bt50 said:

Would have definitely taken him under the cap for us, but think hes overrated nevertheless. Bruce will do a better job imo

ehhh, it remains to be seen how good Kamau can be.

Troisi in full flight is probably one of the top 5 players in the league though imo.

[bt50]

6 minutes ago, Nate said:

ehhh, it remains to be seen how good Kamau can be.

Troisi in full flight is probably one of the top 5 players in the league though imo.

Dont get me wrong, hes avery good player, but nowhere near top 10 imo. Perhaps top 20

[Chris p]

1 hour ago, bt50 said:

Dont get me wrong, hes avery good player, but nowhere near top 10 imo. Perhaps top 20

Pretty sure last time he was here he had 12 goals 10 assists. pretty deece  

[Thrillhouse]

5 hours ago, Chris p said:

Pretty sure last time he was here he had 12 goals 10 assists. pretty deece  

didn't harry do that in half a season?

[Embee]

EAD

http://www.melbournevictory.net/mvfc/?p=514

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The list of restrictions obtained by For Vucks sake and revealed on last night’s podcast threaten to destroy active support if implemented. The recommended constraints for this season are:

• No flags
• No banners
• Current NT leaders out
• Facial recognition
• Active supporters only able to enter the ground via a designated gate
• Increased use of undercover police
• Increased use sniffer dogs to detect flares

 

[bt50]

14 minutes ago, Embee said:

EAD

http://www.melbournevictory.net/mvfc/?p=514

 

They can't say it isn't deserved.

Just hope FFA don't punish us for their mistakes going forward.

[belaguttman]

Are those restrictions for all active supporters or just the visitors?

[Embee]

6 minutes ago, belaguttman said:

Are those restrictions for all active supporters or just the visitors?

NT Specific

[jeffplz]

Cop that

[belaguttman]

There need to be incentives for good behaviour otherwise the restrictions just fan resentment. Whilst the idea of punishment has some appeal the goal of the exercise is to bring about behaviour change.

[Young Polak]

#acab #footballisnothingwithoutus #supportingyourteamisnotacrime #sharingchlorineisnotacrime #fansnotcagedanimals #thisisademocraticcountrynotatotaliterianstate

Edited August 5, 2016 by Young Polak

[n i k o]

I'd say EAD if it wasn't for the fact I know they'd actually enjoy it. 

[Blackout]

What is the world coming to when you and 30 of your closest friends can't throw some chemicals at families for a bit of fun.

Edited August 5, 2016 by Blackout

[Baka1]

[thisphantomfortress]

TBH this well just feed their victim mentality 

[Shahanga]

6 hours ago, belaguttman said:

There need to be incentives for good behaviour otherwise the restrictions just fan resentment. Whilst the idea of punishment has some appeal the goal of the exercise is to bring about behaviour change.

Not just that bela, society should only punish the guilty, not the innocent.  

I quote John Adams (1735-1826), amongst other things the 2nd president of the USA:

“It is more important that innocence be protected than it is that guilt be punished, for guilt and crimes are so frequent in this world that they cannot all be punished.
But if innocence itself is brought to the bar and condemned, perhaps to die, then the citizen will say, 'whether I do good or whether I do evil is immaterial, for innocence itself is no protection,' and if such an idea as that were to take hold in the mind of the citizen that would be the end of security whatsoever.”

To me the FFA broke Adam's rule when they cracked down on the 8 clubs who have normal people as supporters, they seem to have realised their mistake more recently thanks to some reminding, let's hope they don't go back there again. 

[belaguttman]

I agree Shahanga, the other thing is that it's a small minority of visitors supporters, it's also important to enlist them to rid the game of troublemakers, not also antagonise them

[hakz7]

What does it mean by "facial recognition"?

[Jovan]

7 hours ago, hakz7 said:

What does it mean by "facial recognition"?

Heaps of family reunions and alot of child support payments due.

[strider]

Are these de-evolving apes still relevant? Cage them up when they come watch and throw them a banana or two

[n i k o]

 

HERALD SUN PICTORIAL 11/08/2016

PETER ROLFE

ANTI-hooligan measures by A-League soccer club Melbourne Victory will force fans to stand in assigned spaces at matches and carry photo IDs and club membership cards.A four-month internal review of the A-League giant’s members-only North End Active Area has approved the new “minimum standards’’.Victory chief Ian Robson said that for the first time, spectators standing in the zone would have to stay in their allocated spaces rather than being able to cluster.“We’ve made it very clear that enough is enough,’’ Mr Robson said.A series of ugly incidents inside and outside Melbourne games last season has put Victory at risk of losing three premiership points if fans misbehave in the next six months.The club will also require members of supporter group North Terrace to show more leadership.In a bid to keep the minority of troublemakers more visible and more accountable, the entry, the identity and the location of supporters in the zone will be closely monitored.Mr Robson said the club was not restricting passionate behaviour by fans.“We’re just going to be more vigilant about how it is monitored,’’ he said.The club said its supporters must unite to remove flares and those who were “involved in anti-social behaviour’’.“To protect everything that is good about our club … every part of the club needs to unite in championing the cause to remove flares and anti-social behaviour. We have reached a point where simply there can be no more tolerance,’’ it said.

 

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 It is hoped the combined moves will give police and security a better idea of who frequents the Active Area and prevent banned supporters from sneaking into the zone.The measures may also make it easier for authorities to identify law-breakers and bring them to justice.“We are committed to ensuring that any changes are sustainable and will help deter those that intend to break the law with anonymity and without consequences,’’ the club said.Football Federation Australia backed Victory’s stance on troublemakers, in the interests of true fans of the beautiful game.“FFA supports Melbourne Victory’s work with their Active fan groups and (their) determination to provide a family-friendly environment,’’ FFA spokesman Kyle Patterson said.Victoria Police’s Commander Russell Barrett said the force was also “encouraged’’ by Victory’s “continued attention to improving safety at their events’’.Victory’s three-point suspended sentence hangs over its head until February next year.

[Nate]

looool

[KSK_47]

This will end well

[Deviant]

On 8/9/2016 at 10:46 AM, strider said:

Are these de-evolving apes still relevant? Cage them up when they come watch and throw them a banana or two

Throw shit, at them.

[Dylan]

[Dylan]

Have been rejected brining in Alessandro Diamanti under guest marquee rule 

[Thrillhouse]

rightfully so, not a player that's gonna boost crowds

[CaNNaVo93]

Didn't he put 2 past them once?

[Tesla]

TBH it's hard to see anyone much bigger than that coming to the a-league.

[Jovan]

Very harsh. Good age good pedigree and decent playing history at some big clubs and national service.

The FFA are delusional if they think they can get better with all the money in the Chinese Leagues.

If it was any other team I would be pretty pissed.

[strider]

fuk em and their mumz

[Dylan]

56 minutes ago, Jovan said:

Very harsh. Good age good pedigree and decent playing history at some big clubs and national service.

The FFA are delusional if they think they can get better with all the money in the Chinese Leagues.

If it was any other team I would be pretty pissed.

I initially thought this, but the FFA have made it very clear the guest rule is there for high profile players. Its not the FFA's fault that some in the football public have just heard what they wanted to hear in that announcement and not actually listened to what was said.  

Edited August 19, 2016 by Dylan