Libero Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Hi Guys, I have to write a report from school on 'Is the world a fair place?' I chose to write on racism in football, and wanted to see what you guys thought. if you have anything to add, pictures, videos, audio, will all be great, but best of all your own opinion on whether racism exists or not, including in the A-League would be much appreciated. on another note, Go Heart. 3 points is a MUST! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Racism is bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pip Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) Hopefully these links/videos work. They're a bit old but eh, could help? edit: It might be smart to focus on European football (as this kind of stuff happens there more than anywhere else). I've seen in your OP that you mentioned the A-League which could make things harder but here's something. Edited March 10, 2012 by pip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted March 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Racism is bad yeaah, thats why i chose to research it. thanks a lot pip... you're right by the way. A-League does not get a lot of media coverage so its hard to have a history and an accurate evaluation on the topic. the link and video's did help though. thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballism Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Su%C3%A1rez_(Uruguayan_footballer) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Hi Guys, I have to write a report from school on 'Is the world a fair place?' I chose to write on racism in football, and wanted to see what you guys thought. on another note, Go Heart. 3 points is a MUST! Mate, the world's defintely not fair. As soon as you figure that out and get over it (to a point) the better off you'll be. I have a racism in football story for you. I was coaching a 13 year old in the Church's league (VCSA, playing on Saturdays). He was (and is) quite talented and loved his football, so also joined a (former NSL) club that played in the FFV on Sundays, as a number of the talented players in the VCSA do. After about 3 weeks he told me he had quit that club, reason being his team mates kept giving him racial abuse because his family's heritage was from an ethnic group that they (and sadly plenty of others) considered as rivals/enemies to their families' ethnic heritage. The coach didn't stop it. The good news is that he joined a non-racially orientated club that appreciated him as a footballer. He now plays exclusively for that club and they are playing some good football, with him being a solid contributer. I guess my point to this post is its not just brain dead abuse from the stands that constitutes racism in football. You can also what a negative contributor it is- whilst the young fella was effected, my guess is he put it behind him fairly quickly once he got away from the idiots, so in the end the main losers were the ex-NSL club who missed a guy who stands a pretty good chance of going on to play VPL- you can guess where he WON'T go to, can't you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 (edited) I think other areas of research you may find interesting are the careers of the likes of John Barnes and Garth Crooks. Edited March 10, 2012 by Shahanga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted March 10, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 Mate, the world's defintely not fair. As soon as you figure that out and get over it (to a point) the better off you'll be. I have a racism in football story for you. I was coaching a 13 year old in the Church's league (VCSA, playing on Saturdays). He was (and is) quite talented and loved his football, so also joined a (former NSL) club that played in the FFV on Sundays, as a number of the talented players in the VCSA do. After about 3 weeks he told me he had quit that club, reason being his team mates kept giving him racial abuse because his family's heritage was from an ethnic group that they (and sadly plenty of others) considered as rivals/enemies to their families' ethnic heritage. The coach didn't stop it. The good news is that he joined a non-racially orientated club that appreciated him as a footballer. He now plays exclusively for that club and they are playing some good football, with him being a solid contributer. I guess my point to this post is its not just brain dead abuse from the stands that constitutes racism in football. You can also what a negative contributor it is- whilst the young fella was effected, my guess is he put it behind him fairly quickly once he got away from the idiots, so in the end the main losers were the ex-NSL club who missed a guy who stands a pretty good chance of going on to play VPL- you can guess where he WON'T go to, can't you! ill be sure to add this into my report. thank you very much. a friend of mine was treated badly like a club also, but it did not get to those extreme measures - he did not leave the club. http://en.wikipedia....ayan_footballer) thank you, have already looked into the Luis Suarez and John Terry cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 There's a lot of material you could look at here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_association_football and more generally here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism Racism, tribalism, nationalism, xenophobia, religious persecution etc. etc. is present in all aspects of society today, in every country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pip Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 yeaah, thats why i chose to research it. thank you No problemo! Always happy to help, I'm a bit of a research freak so I found some more stuff for you. Again not sure if it's relevant but I figure the more you have to throw into this paper/essay/assignment the better! Here, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-iRLmaZf4A, here (this one is particularly interesting) & here (fifa related!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Duchess Posted March 10, 2012 Report Share Posted March 10, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Su%C3%A1rez_(Uruguayan_footballer) notsureifsrs.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 You could also look up the infamous bobby despotovski incident too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Mike Havenaar half Japanese half dutch kent was racially abused in the past J-League season by Kashiwa fans, the real only real ultras in Asia tbfh. Kicked off with Nagoya fans inside the stadium, apart from their racial tendencies, top lads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) In b4 Braveheart In b4 Malloy Edited March 11, 2012 by Tesla 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tranerz21 Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 yeah racism is still around in football, even if people want to and try to beleive that it is gone. i could tell you a story about one incident but it was during an aussie rules game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marteaux Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/competitions/premier-league/8898054/Former-Liverpool-star-John-Barnes-says-society-is-to-blame-for-racism-problem-that-football-just-cant-shift.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macri Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 racism in anything is wrong and foul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerhead Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 be sure to check out FC St pauli if you're looking for some Anti racist material in your assignment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toogood18 Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 No better case than the Suarez and Evra incident if you want to go recent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Racism is bad because it is not good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duchess Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 No better case than the Suarez and Evra incident if you want to go recent Except there was no racism committed. Try Terry v Anton or one of the billion times Eto'o has been abused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted March 11, 2012 Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Except there was no racism committed. Try Terry v Anton or one of the billion times Eto'o has been abused. the case has not yet gone before court and as such he is still innocent until proven guilty. The saurez incident carries more weight behind it cos saurez was actually punished for racism something that has not yet and still may not happen to JT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Terry will not be convicted of it though, roffffffffffffffffff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted March 12, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Terry will not be convicted of it though, roffffffffffffffffff. wouldnt be so sure mate, did you see the video footage? http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/video/2011/oct/24/john-terry-anton-ferdinand-video good enough proof for me.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 They can't rely on video footage that no one can confirm the words leading up to "those words" and the ones after it. They need 100% without reasonable doubt to convict on a criminal level, you can't rely on that without being able to justify what else was said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tranerz21 Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 No better case than the Suarez and Evra incident if you want to go recent agree with that and if you want to read the document outlining the case for some clarification still dont know what i was thinking to sit down and read the 115 or so pages of that document Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted March 13, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 agree with that and if you want to read the document outlining the case for some clarification still dont know what i was thinking to sit down and read the 115 or so pages of that document hahahhahaa... do you have a link for it? They can't rely on video footage that no one can confirm the words leading up to "those words" and the ones after it. They need 100% without reasonable doubt to convict on a criminal level, you can't rely on that without being able to justify what else was said. truee mate, no existing documents of anton saying anything to terry though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchPride Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 rofl... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FB. Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Strayans doing it better then anyone. The glory days of Ozzie sokah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzatron Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 Pretty fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted March 13, 2012 Report Share Posted March 13, 2012 I agree, we need more racism in football. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted May 29, 2012 Report Share Posted May 29, 2012 Stadium of Hate: Part 1 (15 mins), Part 2 (15 mins). Interesting little doco. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 (edited) ITALY striker Mario Balotelli has threatened to kill anyone who racially abuses him during next month's Euro 2012 in Poland and Ukraine. Balotelli said he had bananas thrown at him in a Rome bar before the European Under-21 Championships in June 2009 and if it happened again, "I will go to jail, because I will kill them," The Guardian reported. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/soccer/balotelli-vows-to-kill-racist-fans/story-e6frfg8x-1226375764617?sv=587953c4c9eb1f8e3c8cfc88492a82fe I fucking love this man (no homo) Edited May 31, 2012 by Tesla Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted May 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 I fucking love this man i think everybody does. (no homo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesla Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 i think everybody does. (no homo) But I'm sure I did before everyone else (no homo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuggetsMcGreggor Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 Stadium of Hate: Part 1 (15 mins), Part 2 (15 mins). Interesting little doco. taken down from youtube but can be found on pirate bay. around 450MB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain82 Posted June 3, 2012 Report Share Posted June 3, 2012 ZIGA ZAGGA ZIGA ZAGGA OI OI OI :ph34r: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braveheart Posted June 11, 2012 Report Share Posted June 11, 2012 Anybody who missed the Doco LR9 posted due to it's removal from Youboob, SBS will be showing it tomorrow(Tuesday) night @9.30pm on their 'Dateline' program. Definitely worth the watch. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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