Missing_Moy Posted December 1, 2019 Report Share Posted December 1, 2019 Needs to go going to only be 2nd by the end of the round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXCiTyZeNXx Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Piss off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Polak Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 French Warren Joyce? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dylan Posted December 29, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 This is going to get your lots knickers in a twist but in no way he should be sacked. Pretty clear that our weak mentality goes further than the manager 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dylan said: This is going to get your lots knickers in a twist but in no way he should be sacked. Pretty clear that our weak mentality goes further than the manager I see this comment a lot about mentality on the forum and from Erick himself...good mentality and good work rate will win us some games or some come back draws but quality always prevails. I honestly start to believe that it's a little more than just mentality, we just aren't good enough, no creativity, repetitive attacking patterns (loop balls in the box) and we can't shoot.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Just now, Mr MO said: I see this comment a lot about mentality on the forum and from Erick himself...good mentality and good work rate will win us some games or some come back draws but quality always prevails. I honestly start to believe that it's a little more than just mentality, we just aren't good enough, no creativity, repetitive attacking patterns (loop balls in the box) and we can't shoot.   Exactly. To create a winning team, you need good footballers before you can worry about the mentality side of things. The building blocks need to be there first. No point in trying to establish a ruthless, winning culture if you can’t actually win. Joyce had it backwards. Mombaerts understands this though I think. What Mombaerts means by mentality is a collective will to dominate matches and essentially just destroy teams with attacking football and a suffocating press. It requires discipline and a lot of mental energy and focus. It also requires quality. Manchester City over the last few seasons have exemplified it. Liverpool have it now but in a much different way. But in every case, a team needs the footballers first. Doesn’t look like we have them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imtellingyou Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 Coach is accountable for results. Although, he should be acknowledged for fielding forum's fantasy team Jamo was out and Galloway was in his place. We still conceded from our left side, partly cause of Jamo's cursed shadow, partly as Le Fondre and Barba were stubborn to play on the preferred right side. Berenguer was off the pitch. We weren't weak and soft, as our captain The Butcher led by example and targeted Ninkovic's injured leg from the beginning. Let's blaim the December. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 4 hours ago, Imtellingyou said: We weren't weak and soft, as our captain The Butcher led by example and targeted Ninkovic's injured leg from the beginning. Let's blaim the December. Can you translate this into english please? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted December 30, 2019 Report Share Posted December 30, 2019 (edited) 41 minutes ago, MHFC-FAN said: Can you translate this into english please? We weren't ''weak and soft'' as our captain said in an interview. Griffiths (The Butcher) led by example and targeted Ninkovic's by going after his injured leg from the beginning. Let's just blaim the December month as we have used up all our excuses. Edited December 30, 2019 by Mr MO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 From "Unlucky" to "mentality" <-- these excuses aren't quantifiable; you're blaming a 'theory' for losing. The reason the players may have a 'weak mentality' is because they don't have the collective confidence that they can win and that's the coaches fault. Tell it like it is (without doing a Mourinho and singling out individual players), i.e. We lacked quality (simple skill errors), we lacked discipline (silly fouls given away), we lacked cohesion (not making the right pass or honouring the run), we lacked a creative midfielder (Brillante & Griffiths are not & Metcalfe is inexperienced), we lacked fitness (?). These are all things that can be worked on by the coach, whether it's changing players, formation or playing style...get the basics right and the players'Â 'winning mentality' will come naturally! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 It's as simple as not having a decent coach in the existence of this club. Whether we're talking about JA, JVS, Warren or mombarts we've never had a proven winning coach on and off the field come in and take the club to success. Mentality, players, club culture are all scapegoats. Get the gaffer right and everything else falls into line. Instead time and time again we fail to invest in the most important part of entire football club: the coach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 (edited) On 14/06/2019 at 5:38 PM, jeffplz said: Just getting it warm before we take it out the oven The starting post in this thread. Something of an irony that a thread started with tongue-in-cheek is now starting to be taken more seriously... Edited December 31, 2019 by jw1739 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted December 31, 2019 Report Share Posted December 31, 2019 Are people seriously suggesting Mombarets needs to be replaced after 11 League games? Sitting second on the ladder, and IMO playing a pretty attractive on the eye style. Okay we have had some really poor losses but did anyone expect to go undefeated and dominate the League. We have 2/3 of the season to go and I think we will resolve our problems, wheather new ones emerge who knows. Any talk of replacing Mombarets is just horeshit and extremely reactionary hyperbole, unless of course we lose on Friday. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 45 minutes ago, Jovan said: Are people seriously suggesting Mombarets needs to be replaced after 11 League games? Sitting second on the ladder, and IMO playing a pretty attractive on the eye style. Okay we have had some really poor losses but did anyone expect to go undefeated and dominate the League. We have 2/3 of the season to go and I think we will resolve our problems, wheather new ones emerge who knows. Any talk of replacing Mombarets is just horeshit and extremely reactionary hyperbole, unless of course we lose on Friday. Half a season is about the time when calls for the executioner begin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Jovan said: Are people seriously suggesting Mombarets needs to be replaced after 11 League games? Sitting second on the ladder, and IMO playing a pretty attractive on the eye style. Okay we have had some really poor losses but did anyone expect to go undefeated and dominate the League. We have 2/3 of the season to go and I think we will resolve our problems, wheather new ones emerge who knows. Any talk of replacing Mombarets is just horeshit and extremely reactionary hyperbole, unless of course we lose on Friday. Exactly, he's the first decent coach that we've had, he's working with a squad that he didn't select in a League that he's never coached in before 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 27 minutes ago, belaguttman said: Exactly, he's the first decent coach that we've had, he's working with a squad that he didn't select in a League that he's never coached in before I thought I saw something to the effect that he had an input into the signings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, jw1739 said: I thought I saw something to the effect that he had an input into the signings? He wouldn't of had input into our most important position.... Visa Marquee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 We already had ¾ team signed by Wazza. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted January 1, 2020 Report Share Posted January 1, 2020 23 hours ago, Jovan said: Are people seriously suggesting Mombarets needs to be replaced after 11 League games? Sitting second on the ladder, and IMO playing a pretty attractive on the eye style. I don't think he needs to be replaced, I was suggesting that he needs to figure out how to use his current crop of players to suit his style of play and formation to get the most out of them as a collective. There's no point in having Maclaren isolated upfront if there's no one in the middle to find the gaps and be "mentally in sync" with JMac. There's no point in Noone or Wales making those lung-busting runs up the wing and crossing the ball to no one. There's no point in trying to get Jamieson to play Mombaerts' 'inverted' fullback style when he...may not be suited to it  We've seen glimpses of what it can look like when it all comes together, but we've more often seen the other extreme too. So rather than calling the players out for having a 'weak mentality', Mombaerts needs to figure out the right formula, i.e. Formation + Playing Style + (9 x Suitable Players) = Winning! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Red or Dead said: I don't think he needs to be replaced, I was suggesting that he needs to figure out how to use his current crop of players to suit his style of play and formation to get the most out of them as a collective. There's no point in having Maclaren isolated upfront if there's no one in the middle to find the gaps and be "mentally in sync" with JMac. There's no point in Noone or Wales making those lung-busting runs up the wing and crossing the ball to no one. There's no point in trying to get Jamieson to play Mombaerts' 'inverted' fullback style when he...may not be suited to it  We've seen glimpses of what it can look like when it all comes together, but we've more often seen the other extreme too. So rather than calling the players out for having a 'weak mentality', Mombaerts needs to figure out the right formula, i.e. Formation + Playing Style + (9 x Suitable Players) = Winning! Spot on. Expresses my view better than I could myself. Erick has been too inflexible so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imtellingyou Posted January 2, 2020 Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 What's the fuss about FB coming in the middle. We already have two DM in this space. The whole setup is exaggerated. A quality CB can play out of the back. If this is all to prevent Delbo from passing a long high diagonal ball to the shortest guy Cabrera, it's not working again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffplz Posted January 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2020 On 01/01/2020 at 7:48 AM, jw1739 said: The starting post in this thread. Something of an irony that a thread started with tongue-in-cheek is now starting to be taken more seriously... I damn well told yas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Love Eric’s work so far. Looks a top drawer coach. We’re lucky to have him 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno cpfc Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 20 minutes ago, Shahanga said: Love Eric’s work so far. Looks a top drawer coach. We’re lucky to have him Out of likes but totally agree. specially after that dickhead from last year.  4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiko Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/mombaerts-linked-with-shock-switch-to-nancy  "It’s a testament to the esteem Mombaerts is held in within the higher echelons of the CFG that he is viewed as the man to galvanise Nancy, assuming the acquisition for a reported fee of between $21-32 million goes through before the end of March." Dave Lewis - World Game SBS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 Well, he's guaranteed to get us into Asia and a Grand Final now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanz Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 If Erick goes I hope they give Kisnorbo a shot. He knows the league and has been around long enough to know what works and doesn’t. Surely the players respect him and I would love to see him in charge eventually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityBoyz Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 Take it with a grain of salt it’s Dave Lewis who said Warren Joyce was being re-signed https://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/joyce-set-to-land-surprise-contract-extension-at-melbourne-city  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiko Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 I think you're onto something CityBoyz, it all reads like rock solid conjecture, especially the Joyce article. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityBoyz Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 Â 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 He's the best coach that we've had, keep your hands off him! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 I shall be very disappointed if there is any truth in this rumour. If Mombaerts goes I can see another bunch of fans also leaving the club. We desperately need stability and to build a culture within the club and something that fans can hang on to. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 I would be disappointed, I think he has done well with the mules wazza signed to long contracts. The only thing that irks me is substitutions, but I can live with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 I hope Eric stays, but at the very least I hope it prods CFG to identify what kind of coach excels here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 I can’t imagine us signing another coach like Erick. I’m sure we’d go for a cut price solution based on @Bob Latchfords comments a few days ago. Concerning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted March 18, 2020 Report Share Posted March 18, 2020 8 hours ago, Shahanga said: I can’t imagine us signing another coach like Erick. I’m sure we’d go for a cut price solution based on @Bob Latchfords comments a few days ago. Concerning. I can't imagine that Wellington Phoenix would be paying top dollars for their coach. So bargain basement is OK with me. BUT the disaster that was Joyce was probably not cheap and he had a cut price football mentality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jw1739 Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 Because of his age. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno cpfc Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 Well now Kisnorbo gets a go at the helm, it will be interesting to see how he handles it ! Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted March 19, 2020 Report Share Posted March 19, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, johnno cpfc said: Well now Kisnorbo gets a go at the helm, it will be interesting to see how he handles it ! Â I'd like to know @Mork opinion about this. Edited March 19, 2020 by kingofhearts 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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