kingofhearts Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, Mr MO said: Depends what you value most. 1) scoring goals . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2) being good in general play? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marn11 Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 He's a striker, so I value putting it in the back of the net far more than anything else. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 2 hours ago, marn11 said: Do we underappreciate this bloke? He's an absolute star. He seems rather undervalued by a few fans. Has been a monster in front of goals for us! Will break gypsy boys record this season! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 3 hours ago, marn11 said: Do we underappreciate this bloke? He's an absolute star. I sure as hell don't. Guy's a deadset legend and the face of this club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 5, 2022 Report Share Posted November 5, 2022 Jmac is an out-and out instinctive striker, and he's there to convert those half-chances in the 6-yard box, and that's what he does. What limitations he has we have to make up for elsewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 @Mr MO posted a question in the wrong thread. HIs question was do we think Jmac is going to the World Cup? I'd say he's borderline, but I'll say "yes." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 22 minutes ago, jw1739 said: @Mr MO posted a question in the wrong thread. HIs question was do we think Jmac is going to the World Cup? I'd say he's borderline, but I'll say "yes." Seems ridiculous to think the guys having probably the best first 5 games of any striker in A League history. How can he not be selected!?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, MHFC-FAN said: Seems ridiculous to think the guys having probably the best first 5 games of any striker in A League history. How can he not be selected!?! I hope he goes of course. But if he doesn't it will be for the same the reason we don't like to discuss here. No sayers will say - goals are mainly tap-ins, penalties or deflections he knew nothing about. On the other side, goals are goals, look at the stats, he deserves it. World Cup is different level as well. Arnold will be looking at a couple different style of strikers to be included in the squad. Who do you think is the most complete socceroo striker? Edited November 6, 2022 by Mr MO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) On form for the national team Jmac is a must. 8 goals in his last 13 matches for Australia according to Wikipedia. But it will depend on how Arnold is planning to set up his team. Edited November 6, 2022 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr MO said: I hope he goes of course. But if he doesn't it will be for the same the reason we don't like to discuss here. No sayers will say - goals are mainly tap-ins, penalties or deflections he knew nothing about. On the other side, goals are goals, look at the stats, he deserves it. World Cup is different level as well. Arnold will be looking at a couple different style of strikers to be included in the squad. Who do you think is the most complete socceroo striker? TBH the striking stocks for Aus are currently not great when you consider who's playing international. I would maybe say Cummings is potentially the more rounded A League striker as I can't really think of any Aussies doing particularly well OS... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Mr MO said: .... No sayers will say - goals are mainly tap-ins, penalties or deflections he knew nothing about. On the other side, goals are goals, look at the stats, he deserves it. World Cup is different level as well... Fair enough argument if he's only been around a couple of seasons or so, but the reality is he's been scoring goals for years now... And huge amounts domestically year after year. He might not be everyone's cup of tea, but his numbers totally justify a spot in the squad. But with Arnold, who knows. More likely to go for total spuds such as Duke or Juric. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 54 minutes ago, rass said: Fair enough argument if he's only been around a couple of seasons or so, but the reality is he's been scoring goals for years now... And huge amounts domestically year after year. He might not be everyone's cup of tea, but his numbers totally justify a spot in the squad. But with Arnold, who knows. More likely to go for total spuds such as Duke or Juric. The Guardian is writing that he plans to take three strikers and currently two of the most likely are JMac and Mitchell Duke. Third spot is up for grabs: Tilio, Kuol and Cummings with Arzani an outside chance. Given that Australia does not have any strikers playing in the big four leagues of Europe then as noted Australia's stocks are rather thin. Duke provides height and muscle whilst JMac provides ground level scoring. Hard call - Arnold or no Arnold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Aardvark Posted November 6, 2022 Report Share Posted November 6, 2022 Tilio, Kuol and Arzani would al be in the conversation as wingers. I think Maclaren is locked in. Arnold has never hesitated to pick him, and he is in outrageous form in a weak field. Striking group is probably out of Duke, Maclaren, Cummings, Taggart with Leckie a left field option as a depth option (has been used there before). I understand peoples frustration with Maclaren, we aren't good enough to not be weakened by a striker that basically doesnt get involved in build up play and thats clearly the reason we have used Duke, for all his faults he has a big presence and can hold the ball up a little. But Maclaren is by a long way our countries best goalscorer and as Mr Mo says "goals are mainly tap-ins, penalties or deflections he knew nothing about" which tbh is exactly what we need? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarOv Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 On 06/11/2022 at 9:05 AM, NewConvert said: The Guardian is writing that he plans to take three strikers and currently two of the most likely are JMac and Mitchell Duke. Third spot is up for grabs: Tilio, Kuol and Cummings with Arzani an outside chance. Given that Australia does not have any strikers playing in the big four leagues of Europe then as noted Australia's stocks are rather thin. Duke provides height and muscle whilst JMac provides ground level scoring. Hard call - Arnold or no Arnold. I recently tried to predict how many goals Australia could score - and I don't see it being more than 5 - at best. But I think it will be less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Aardvark Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 1 hour ago, DarOv said: I recently tried to predict how many goals Australia could score - and I don't see it being more than 5 - at best. But I think it will be less. I reckon the line is 3.5, and there is a strong argument it should be 2.5. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted November 8, 2022 Report Share Posted November 8, 2022 6 hours ago, DarOv said: I recently tried to predict how many goals Australia could score - and I don't see it being more than 5 - at best. But I think it will be less. Can't see Oz scoring against France but should do so against Denmark. Tunisia I have no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 Now holds the record for scoring in consecutive A-League matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recyclosaurusrex Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 23 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Now holds the record for scoring in consecutive A-League matches. Wonder how the derby will play into this one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Aardvark Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 20 hours ago, recyclosaurusrex said: Wonder how the derby will play into this one... I guess incomplete matches don't count towards the tally, which is fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 21 minutes ago, The Aardvark said: I guess incomplete matches don't count towards the tally, which is fair enough. Just as Oneils goal will never be recorded, which is a real pity because it was a nice one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr MO Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 Can’t wait for him to smash the Gypsy record! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyh001 Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 On 02/01/2023 at 3:35 PM, recyclosaurusrex said: Wonder how the derby will play into this one... On 03/01/2023 at 11:43 AM, The Aardvark said: I guess incomplete matches don't count towards the tally, which is fair enough. On 03/01/2023 at 12:06 PM, Jovan said: Just as Oneils goal will never be recorded, which is a real pity because it was a nice one. tbf only 20 min was played. how can it count against macca (agreed that it sucks for o'neill). maybe when we get the 3-0, o'neill is allowed to keep his? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 https://www.ftbl.com.au/news/its-funny-a-leagues-maclaren-remembers-when-perth-turned-him-down-589534?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=insidesport_autopost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka1 Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 How am I meant tell my future children that Maclaren was the greatest striker in A-League history but he couldn’t shoot to save his life? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 18 minutes ago, Baka1 said: How am I meant tell my future children that Maclaren was the greatest striker in A-League history but he couldn’t shoot to save his life? I think with JMac he's an instinctive striker and the longer he has to think about the shot then the less likely he is to convert. But I don't think he's the only one. It's pretty much throughout the squad. And at the other end we don't stop enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted March 6 Report Share Posted March 6 (edited) On 6/3/2023 at 12:02 PM, jw1739 said: I think with JMac he's an instinctive striker and the longer he has to think about the shot then the less likely he is to convert. But I don't think he's the only one. It's pretty much throughout the squad. And at the other end we don't stop enough. Well the others are always able to contribute in other ways, be part of the play, or create chances. Other player aren’t specialised in goal scoring, as that’s what he is there for. If JMAC doesn’t finish we just struggle that’s a fact. There was a time he also finished those more difficult chances. At the moment we win or loose with JMAC. Looking at most recent losses, he’s missed a few who turned to out to be game defining. Edited March 7 by Mr MO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 (edited) Why is he even playing if this is the case. Just let him rest and recover, you can clearly see its affecting his play. Edited March 12 by kingofhearts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, kingofhearts said: Why is he even playing if this is the case. Just let him rest and recover, you can clearly see its affecting his play. Yes something wasn’t right we just struggle when he doesn’t finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno cpfc Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 Not only that but he needs to change the direction of his penalty taking he inveriably shoots to the the right and keepers have worked him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 Have to give him this week against MacArthur off, I'd think that a front 3 of Flo, Nabbout and Tilio is enough to get past them. If we leave any longer to give him one off, he will be off to Socceroos camp and then a final month which includes games against Wellington, CCM and WSW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, neio said: Have to give him this week against MacArthur off, I'd think that a front 3 of Flo, Nabbout and Tilio is enough to get past them. If we leave any longer to give him one off, he will be off to Socceroos camp and then a final month which includes games against Wellington, CCM and WSW Bench him and if it’s really required come on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart1011 Posted March 12 Report Share Posted March 12 (edited) Kind of explains why he has looked a bit off as late.. have said this time and time again that we don't have a genuine back-up for Jmac.. Rodrigues gets no game time and apart from that who do we actually have that can play the striker role? Yeah of course you can play Tilio or even Nabbout up front but they aren't strikers as such.. such a shame to see Colacovski getting screwed over at Perth.. He would be getting alot more time if he was still with us albeit it off the bench it's still better than getting nothing at all! Crazy to think between himself and Tilio they won that game against Macarthur in the semi and then he set up that goal that Atkinson scored in the GF and now he is getting no time at all! Edited March 12 by heart1011 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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