Dylan Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 1 hour ago, bt50 said: Tbf even we had no idea if he'd be any good until Friday... And that was with no video and against an understrength WSW side 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afif Adam Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) man will prove on Saturday, unless Wazza has a bad day and decides to play Malik at wing Edited October 15, 2018 by Afif Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Originalmeme Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 has to start. Dont care has to. Betting he will have a bigger influence than Colazo did those first two games against victory (thought he was going to be the best player we had ever signed after those two games). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dconder13 Posted October 15, 2018 Report Share Posted October 15, 2018 (edited) Don’t Start him or fuksake Edited November 3, 2018 by dconder13 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 I've seen enough from this guy. Yes calling it early but this guy can fuck off. He is the laziest motherfucker I have ever seen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 He is being played out of position, needs to be central as all his attributes I have seen so far indicates he is not a wide playing winger but rather a close ball control playmaker. Put him in the middle Wazza and see how he goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 40 minutes ago, playmaker said: He is being played out of position, needs to be central as all his attributes I have seen so far indicates he is not a wide playing winger but rather a close ball control playmaker. Put him in the middle Wazza and see how he goes. After last night he has all the makings of Koren 2.0 but less skill. He seems a strange type and he doesn't look like a winger or even a wide box to box. It's not easy coming into a new league in a different country but unless he can string 2 or 3 quality games he may be another player that didn't suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 3 hours ago, playmaker said: He is being played out of position, needs to be central as all his attributes I have seen so far indicates he is not a wide playing winger but rather a close ball control playmaker. Put him in the middle Wazza and see how he goes. Correct, even Wales isn’t a real winger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 So is Ninkovic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 4 hours ago, Jovan said: After last night he has all the makings of Koren 2.0 but less skill. He seems a strange type and he doesn't look like a winger or even a wide box to box. It's not easy coming into a new league in a different country but unless he can string 2 or 3 quality games he may be another player that didn't suit. Bear in mind Robi Koren was a marquee player, whereas Berenguer is not. He's supposed to be a "left midfielder." (transfermarkt.co.uk). He's the one player we don't have contract details for - neither does transfermarkt - so we don't know how long we've got him for. Yesterday was a dreadful day at the office for everyone so I'm not prepared to write anyone off yet. WTF City come out of the tunnel and look as though they've only just met in the dressing room is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 What's this rumour about him being out in town until 4am the day of the game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchcolm Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 6 hours ago, playmaker said: He is being played out of position, needs to be central as all his attributes I have seen so far indicates he is not a wide playing winger but rather a close ball control playmaker. Put him in the middle Wazza and see how he goes. If he is not a winger and McGree is not a winger, Vidosic is not a winger and it is debatable if Wales is a winger, then who are the wingers in the squad we need a minimum of 2 for his preferred formation. All during preseason he played a combination of these four and O'Halloran on the wings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Inchcolm said: If he is not a winger and McGree is not a winger, Vidosic is not a winger and it is debatable if Wales is a winger, then who are the wingers in the squad we need a minimum of 2 for his preferred formation. All during preseason he played a combination of these four and O'Halloran on the wings. Yup hence we struggled to score in preseason and in the cup, we mostly dragged out small wins and draws. O Halloran wasn’t going to feature much in the starting line up anyway judging by this. Joyce is underestimating the league or overestimating his own players. We have issue across the board. For example our captain, Jamieson show passion and works hard, but really has average technique and the last time he had a good cross in the box was 2015. We are relying on our full backs to give attacking impulses too much. Edited November 3, 2018 by Mr MO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 Floppy burger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris p Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 1 goal in his last 84 games. Hope no one was expecting goals from this bloke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 12 minutes ago, Chris p said: 1 goal in his last 84 games. Hope no one was expecting goals from this bloke No idea where you get your info from https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/florin-berenguer/leistungsdaten/spieler/111040/plus/0?saison=2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted November 3, 2018 Report Share Posted November 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Inchcolm said: If he is not a winger and McGree is not a winger, Vidosic is not a winger and it is debatable if Wales is a winger, then who are the wingers in the squad we need a minimum of 2 for his preferred formation. All during preseason he played a combination of these four and O'Halloran on the wings. He is not a winger, he is a mid-fielder. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Le Cube Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 16 hours ago, Dylan said: Floppy burger Florin Berenmeh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlings Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 Robi, this you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayv36 Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 Lots of imports take time to get used to the league, Krishna & Marinkovic took a whole season to look decent & even Ross took a few weeks. I’m hopeful Florin can come good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, rayv36 said: Lots of imports take time to get used to the league, Krishna & Marinkovic took a whole season to look decent & even Ross took a few weeks. I’m hopeful Florin can come good. I'm just concerned about the rumour that he was out until 4am the day of the game 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris p Posted November 9, 2018 Report Share Posted November 9, 2018 What exactly is it that you do here, Florin ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted November 9, 2018 Report Share Posted November 9, 2018 12 minutes ago, Chris p said: What exactly is it that you do here, Florin ? People really rated him in his new position tonight, I remain on the fence regarding Florin's personal ability but having a player running as a Nr 10 role with a decent touch made other players play better tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 It's amazing how players play better in their natural position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 11 hours ago, Chris p said: What exactly is it that you do here, Florin ? Sorry Chris, but you were clearly watching a different game to the rest of us last night. Had a good game, one of the best last night. I can see exactly what he does, and so could most of the people there last night. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted November 10, 2018 Report Share Posted November 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, playmaker said: It's amazing how players play better when thry aren't hungover. Fixed But in all seriousness he was much more agressive last night. Chasing things down and forcing turnovers or defensive throw ins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Le Cube Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 On 11/10/2018 at 0:17 PM, malloy said: Fixed But in all seriousness he was much more agressive last night. Chasing things down and forcing turnovers or defensive throw ins. Maybe I am being unreasonable but I expect a Visa attacking midfielder to be able to do more than just chase and apply pressure. He had a fair bit of time and space with the ball on Friday night and did very little with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 I still have faith in Florian (we cant just dump him for an equal or better VISA/Australian until January). He hasnt impressed me so far, but I didnt watch the last game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 Jury is out for me. His next full game will be a good chance to see where he is at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, Jovan said: a good chance to see where he is at. You couldn't resist, could you? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 27 minutes ago, Jovan said: Jury is out for me. His next full game will be a good chance to see where he is at. Triggered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchcolm Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 If he's going to play that position, he needs a couple of more games there. In his 3rd match he must show his skills in both attacking and defending. Then I'll be in a better place to judge him. One thing is for sure, he's shown, he is better there than on the wing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Inchcolm said: If he's going to play that position, he needs a couple of more games there. In his 3rd match he must show his skills in both attacking and defending. Then I'll be in a better place to judge him. One thing is for sure, he's shown, he is better there than on the wing I wonder if, had OHalloran not been injured, he would have started in a central role anyway. I.e. what he was bought here to do, not put on him as things changed. Wazza did say he is a Nonkovic type player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 5 hours ago, Jacques Le Cube said: Maybe I am being unreasonable but I expect a Visa attacking midfielder to be able to do more than just chase and apply pressure. He had a fair bit of time and space with the ball on Friday night and did very little with it. He did do more than that. On a number of occasions he got forward and made passes or crosses into dangerous areas. Several were very close be being assists for goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 52 minutes ago, JMSTEP123 said: Wazza did say he is a Nonkovic type player. Who's that? A dollar store Ninković? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dconder13 Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 7 hours ago, fensaddler said: He did do more than that. On a number of occasions he got forward and made passes or crosses into dangerous areas. Several were very close be being assists for goals. Also had a shot cleared off the line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 11 hours ago, JMSTEP123 said: I wonder if, had OHalloran not been injured, he would have started in a central role anyway. I.e. what he was bought here to do, not put on him as things changed. Wazza did say he is a Nonkovic type player. 10 hours ago, haz said: Who's that? A dollar store Ninković? Fwiw, Ninkovic was pretty bloody average here in his first season. Completely different player 2nd season once he figured the league out... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted November 14, 2018 Report Share Posted November 14, 2018 TBH I wouldn't be going into raptures about Florin - or anyone else - just yet. Definitely the performance against Wellington was better by pretty well every player and the team as a whole, but IMO we're still a team struggling to reach the level that on paper we should be at. We don't move with the fluency that I would expect, nor do we put away enough of the chances we create, and we still seem to be "hanging on" in the last stages of matches. I've come to dread those few minutes of added time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted November 15, 2018 Report Share Posted November 15, 2018 13 hours ago, haz said: Who's that? A dollar store Ninković? More real than even I had anticipated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 9, 2018 Report Share Posted December 9, 2018 I quite like Croissant as a footballer when I've seen him in home matches. I can only hope for his sake that he's on just a one-season contract with us. He must wonder what he's let himself in for with Joyce after the relatively comfortable environment of Ligue 2 in France. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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