Tommykins Posted July 31 Report Share Posted July 31 I'm not sure if it's an active decision or just timing but I suspect we're going to see a lot more academy players this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 31 Author Report Share Posted July 31 7 hours ago, Le Hack said: ... Lawrence Wong 17 yo midfielder has also just been given a 3 yr scholarship contract At first glance I thought we'd signed the Prime Minister of Singapore... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 21 hours ago, Tommykins said: I'm not sure if it's an active decision or just timing but I suspect we're going to see a lot more academy players this year. Any "depth" that we're going to have this season is just going to be youth players. Probably one of the weakest at least on paper squads I think we've ever assembled at this point of time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka1 Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 Clubs are making fuck all revenue so there’s bound to be heaps of youth to cut costs this year. Although, this is the one year we could “buy” the title and sign stars but it ain’t happening. Sheikhs a tightass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 21 minutes ago, Baka1 said: Clubs are making fuck all revenue so there’s bound to be heaps of youth to cut costs this year. Although, this is the one year we could “buy” the title and sign stars but it ain’t happening. Sheikhs a tightass Given we ain't playing in Asia this season there really isn't any prize money to play for this season? Seems they are budgeting on the confines of the A-Leagues dismal financial position... Guess this season is going to show which clubs have the best youth available. It looks like a lot of young players are going to get good playing time/break into first 11s this season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citypool Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 12 minutes ago, MHFC-FAN said: Given we ain't playing in Asia this season there really isn't any prize money to play for this season? Seems they are budgeting on the confines of the A-Leagues dismal financial position... Guess this season is going to show which clubs have the best youth available. It looks like a lot of young players are going to get good playing time/break into first 11s this season! Really need to go back to basics playing at small stadiums, clubs working on their fans 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 18 minutes ago, citypool said: Really need to go back to basics playing at small stadiums, clubs working on their fans Yep the KISS acronym should be displayed at APL headquarters... "Keep It Simple Stupid" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 30 minutes ago, MHFC-FAN said: Given we ain't playing in Asia this season there really isn't any prize money to play for this season? Seems they are budgeting on the confines of the A-Leagues dismal financial position... Guess this season is going to show which clubs have the best youth available. It looks like a lot of young players are going to get good playing time/break into first 11s this season! I think the clubs with the least payer turnover will probably be the forunners, think WSW, Perth, even vuck. All our big signings have left and money is thin, we never played our youth and I think we are in a curious place where youth will play a big part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 22 hours ago, Tommykins said: I'm not sure if it's an active decision or just timing but I suspect we're going to see a lot more academy players this year. This is going to be true of all clubs. I watched a bit of AU last night and there were a lot of young players. I don't mind as I feel that the A-League recycles a lot of players. Pieiras is now onto his fourth club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 1 hour ago, moops said: I think the clubs with the least payer turnover will probably be the forunners, think WSW, Perth, even vuck. All our big signings have left and money is thin, we never played our youth and I think we are in a curious place where youth will play a big part. Youth is all we are signing at the moment. Interesting season coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 2 hours ago, moops said: I think the clubs with the least payer turnover will probably be the forunners, think WSW, Perth, even vuck. All our big signings have left and money is thin, we never played our youth and I think we are in a curious place where youth will play a big part. Yes I think you are right, whoever has retained their best 11 from last season and either has a decent bench or great youth is going to be the ones to beat. I think we are in a pretty weak state with our best 11 so far. Would need the last couple of visa signings to make a significant impact... 56 minutes ago, Mr MO said: Youth is all we are signing at the moment. Interesting season coming up. Seems we are definitely not digging deep into the wallet this season... el budgeto eleveno 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyh001 Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 looking at the most recent list on this forum; has Jimmy Jeggo left the club - can't see him on the list? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leame_Citeh Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 39 minutes ago, mattyh001 said: looking at the most recent list on this forum; has Jimmy Jeggo left the club - can't see him on the list? I hope so 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 1 Author Report Share Posted August 1 2 hours ago, mattyh001 said: looking at the most recent list on this forum; has Jimmy Jeggo left the club - can't see him on the list? @mattyh001 That is clearly my fault. An error in transcribing from one post to another. My apologies to all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted August 1 Report Share Posted August 1 8 hours ago, mattyh001 said: looking at the most recent list on this forum; has Jimmy Jeggo left the club - can't see him on the list? I hope so. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityBoyz Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 This is looking like the worst squad the club has had going into a season since CFG takeover. Quite bleak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyh001 Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 18 hours ago, jw1739 said: @mattyh001 That is clearly my fault. An error in transcribing from one post to another. My apologies to all. don't have to apologies jw, i appreciate all the work you do on the forums. oversights happen all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 1 hour ago, CityBoyz said: This is looking like the worst squad the club has had going into a season since CFG takeover. Quite bleak. Our best 11 on paper is certainly rather weak... I think we will be signing a visa striker because we can't be relying on Caputo to be consistent enough in front of goals. We will also probably sign a visa midfielder given the disappointing loss of Arslan! I think if we can sign another visa then it may be another winger to play opposite of Tilio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 Noting somebody on Twitter spotted that 9, 10 and 11 in the squad numbers weren't allocated. That does hint at incoming. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 2 Author Report Share Posted August 2 (edited) MELBOURNE CITY PLAYING SQUAD 2024-25 2nd August 2024 Goalkeepers.: Until Club announcement 1 Jamie YOUNG 30/6/25 40 James NIEUWENHUIZEN (S) 30/6/27 17/10/23 33 Patrick BEACH 30/6/26 23/6/23 Defenders: 2 Callum TALBOT 30/6/25 24/5/22 26 Samuel SOUPRAYEN (V) 30/6/25 10/7/23 16 Aziz BEHICH 30/6/25 6/8/23 27 Kai TREWIN 30/6/27 7/5/24 38 Harry POLITIDIS 30/6/25 25/9/23 34 Jayden NECOVSKI (S) 30/6/27 27/4/24 22 German FERREYRA (V) 30/6/26 17/7/24 36 Harry SHILLINGTON (S) 30/6/25 2/8/24 37 Peter ANTONIOU (S) 30/6/27 2/8/24 Midfielders: 39 Emin DURAKOVIC (S) 30/6/26 22/6/23 20 Arion SULEMANI (S) 30/6/26 22/6/23 19 Zane SCHREIBER 30/6/26 23/6/23 21 Alessandro LOPANE 30/6/25 (1 season ext. option) 23/6/23 6 Steven UGARKOVIC 30/6/25 (1 season ext. option) 30/6/23 17 Max CAPUTO 30/6/26 13/7/23 8 James JEGGO 30/06/25 (1 season ext. option) 31/1/24 41 Lawrence WONG (S) 30/6/27 (1 season ext. option) 31/7/24 Forwards: 15 Andrew NABBOUT 30/6/26 7 Mathew LECKIE 30/6/26 46 Ben MAZZEO 30/6/26 (1-season ext. trigger) 16/1/24 23 Marco TILIO 30/6/25 (on loan from Celtic) 4/7/24 35 Medin MEMETI 30/6/27 (1-season ext. option) 16/7/24 Edited August 3 by jw1739 Squad numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 So it looks like our list has only 5 players over 25. Talk about yoof! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 28 minutes ago, fensaddler said: Noting somebody on Twitter spotted that 9, 10 and 11 in the squad numbers weren't allocated. That does hint at incoming. Pretty much all the core positions we still need filled... Striker, Winger and Attacking Midfield! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 3 Author Report Share Posted August 3 On 01/08/2024 at 3:36 PM, Baka1 said: Clubs are making fuck all revenue so there’s bound to be heaps of youth to cut costs this year. Although, this is the one year we could “buy” the title and sign stars but it ain’t happening. Sheikhs a tightass We would be sitting pretty had Sakhi and Arslan not walked. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citypool Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 https://melbournecityfc.com.au/news/20240802-alm-squad-numbers/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 3 Author Report Share Posted August 3 (edited) @citypool I added the numbers this morning. Edited August 3 by jw1739 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 Who do we think of the young brigade are going to either break into the 11 or become first choice subs? I'm thinking Mazzeo, Sulemani and perhaps Necovski will get some decent playing time this season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 4 Author Report Share Posted August 4 The ages are as follows: Young: 38* Nieuwenhuizen: 20 Beach: 21 Talbot: 23* Souprayen: 35* Behich: 33* Trewin: 23* Politidis: 22* Necovski: 16 Ferrayra: 28* Shillington: 20 Antoniou: 17 Durakovic: 19 Sulemani: 19 Schreiber: 19 Lopane: 20 Ugarkovic: 29* Caputo: 18 Jeggo: 32* Wong: 17 Leckie: 33* Nabbout: 31* Mazzeo: 19 Tilio: 22* Memeti: 17 IMO anyone over 21 is a "senior" player. So those marked * are the ones who have to lead both physically and mentally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 4 hours ago, jw1739 said: The ages are as follows: Young: 38* Nieuwenhuizen: 20 Beach: 21 Talbot: 23* Souprayen: 35* Behich: 33* Trewin: 23* Politidis: 22* Necovski: 16 Ferrayra: 28* Shillington: 20 Antoniou: 17 Durakovic: 19 Sulemani: 19 Schreiber: 19 Lopane: 20 Ugarkovic: 29* Caputo: 18 Jeggo: 32* Wong: 17 Leckie: 33* Nabbout: 31* Mazzeo: 19 Tilio: 22* Memeti: 17 IMO anyone over 21 is a "senior" player. So those marked * are the ones who have to lead both physically and mentally. I would add number of senior games played. So for me, Tilio ought to be considered more senior than Politides although both are the same age. Nabbout ought to be a leader but he commits to many undisciplined fouls for my taste. Jeggo, well I did not see much leadership there last night. My one thought was what were the instructions from the sidelines - here is looking at you Vidmar - because the players just attempted to park the bus unsuccessfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 4 Author Report Share Posted August 4 47 minutes ago, NewConvert said: I would add number of senior games played. So for me, Tilio ought to be considered more senior than Politides although both are the same age. Nabbout ought to be a leader but he commits to many undisciplined fouls for my taste. Jeggo, well I did not see much leadership there last night. My one thought was what were the instructions from the sidelines - here is looking at you Vidmar - because the players just attempted to park the bus unsuccessfully. OK, I can do that I suppose. We have to put up with Nabbout for two more seasons, and Jeggo for one, but he has an extension option and I'm not sure whether that's at the club's discretion or his. Two of the worst signings we could have made I reckon. Senior players need to show grit, determination and leadership. Likewise Vidmar. If someone would take it on, I'd like to see us rate players out of 10 after every League match - would be better than the 3-2-1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 4 Author Report Share Posted August 4 (edited) Well, if you want to include "senior games appearances" then here is the list. Depends what you would say is a relevant number of senior games played to be "experienced.". I have taken it as 50. The surprise is probably Lopane. 4th August 2024 Age Senior appearances (approx.) Young: 38* 465 Nieuwenhuizen: 20 1 Beach: 21 0 Talbot: 23* 69 Souprayen: 35* 430 Behich: 33* 380 Trewin: 23* 105 Politidis: 22 17 Necovski: 16 0 Ferrayra: 28* 140 Shillington: 20 1 Antoniou: 17 0 Durakovic: 19 0 Sulemani: 19 1 Schreiber: 19 9 Lopane: 20* 53 Ugarkovic: 29* 292 Caputo: 18 35 Jeggo: 32* 348 Wong: 17 0 Leckie: 33* 367 Nabbout: 31* 238 Mazzeo: 19 13 Tilio: 22* 96 Memeti: 17 0 Edited August 4 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citypool Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 Atkinson is surplus to requirements at hearts. If he doesn't get any offers can see him coming back to the a league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted August 4 Report Share Posted August 4 7 hours ago, citypool said: Atkinson is surplus to requirements at hearts. If he doesn't get any offers can see him coming back to the a league take him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 4 Author Report Share Posted August 4 (edited) 3 hours ago, NewConvert said: take him. I would take him too, but then aren't we overloaded with wing-backs? Maybe we've got something in the pipeline, but it seems that we are lurching from season to season with hasty decisions... Edited August 4 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 9 hours ago, jw1739 said: I would take him too, but then aren't we overloaded with wing-backs? Maybe we've got something in the pipeline, but it seems that we are lurching from season to season with hasty decisions... So who would replace Talbot? as far as I can see we only have a single scholarship player for that position. Ferreyra supposedly can play in all positions which makes him a master of none. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 5 Author Report Share Posted August 5 2 minutes ago, NewConvert said: So who would replace Talbot? as far as I can see we only have a single scholarship player for that position. Ferreyra supposedly can play in all positions which makes him a master of none. If we got Atkinson back I'd be playing him at RB with Behich at LB. You've got Talbot and Politidis as back-ups there. Souprayen and either Trewin or Ferreyra as CBs (IMO a waste to have a visa player sitting on the bench). It's in midfield where I don't rate either Jeggo or Ugarkovic, and up front that IMO we're really struggling. Nabbout and Tilio aren't doing much. Surely we have to make some signings here? Even with the team we had on Saturday I would have thought we could play out the match once we were two goals in front with 15+extra time to go. That to me is the failure of the senior players and Vidmar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 17 minutes ago, jw1739 said: If we got Atkinson back I'd be playing him at RB with Behich at LB. You've got Talbot and Politidis as back-ups there. Souprayen and either Trewin or Ferreyra as CBs (IMO a waste to have a visa player sitting on the bench). It's in midfield where I don't rate either Jeggo or Ugarkovic, and up front that IMO we're really struggling. Nabbout and Tilio aren't doing much. Surely we have to make some signings here? Even with the team we had on Saturday I would have thought we could play out the match once we were two goals in front with 15+extra time to go. That to me is the failure of the senior players and Vidmar. I'm more inclined to apportion blame to Vidmar because I felt that once that fourth goal was scored the team became totally defensive allowing PG to have a lot of room. It was such a drastic change that I wondered then (and still do) whether they were under instructions to do so. Having said that, I don't want to take anything from PG and their coaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 5 Author Report Share Posted August 5 (edited) 50 minutes ago, NewConvert said: I'm more inclined to apportion blame to Vidmar because I felt that once that fourth goal was scored the team became totally defensive allowing PG to have a lot of room. It was such a drastic change that I wondered then (and still do) whether they were under instructions to do so. Having said that, I don't want to take anything from PG and their coaches. It was a poor tactic whoever was responsible, and this is where the coach and captain are so important. If it was 2-0 at that stage, yes, possibly a risk worth taking, but at 4-2 with still 15 to go and already Perth had shown that they were quite capable of scoring and us quite capable of conceding, so it was a poor tactic. It's not just about the how many goals you are in front, it's also about reading the overall game. And that's why Vidmar is a poor coach. Edited August 5 by jw1739 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanty Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 If we don't bring in a new RB (I hope we do) either Ferreyra or even Ugarkovic are better options at RB imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citypool Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 On 05/08/2024 at 7:28 PM, jw1739 said: If we got Atkinson back I'd be playing him at RB with Behich at LB. You've got Talbot and Politidis as back-ups there. Souprayen and either Trewin or Ferreyra as CBs (IMO a waste to have a visa player sitting on the bench). It's in midfield where I don't rate either Jeggo or Ugarkovic, and up front that IMO we're really struggling. Nabbout and Tilio aren't doing much. Surely we have to make some signings here? Even with the team we had on Saturday I would have thought we could play out the match once we were two goals in front with 15+extra time to go. That to me is the failure of the senior players and Vidmar. https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/hearts-transfers-premiership-nathaniel-atkinson-33402945?new= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Hack Posted August 6 Report Share Posted August 6 12 hours ago, citypool said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-transfer-news/hearts-transfers-premiership-nathaniel-atkinson-33402945?new= Geez the Vuck morphing into City, already have Fornaroli, Valadon, Hamill, Arzani, and PK, now want Atkinson. I can understand as they have two grandpas at FB in Geria and Traore. Hope Atkinson doesn't but he did sign with Glory until that didn't work. I'd pick him up anyway, even if we have FBs in Talbot and Behich he's an upgrade on them and he can conceivably play wing as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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