Warren Joyce. As predicted by Serb Hair Dresser.. Goneski

[Shahanga]

12 hours ago, citypool said:

Should change the title to Joyce here now and forever 

The once and forever Coach

[belaguttman]

2 hours ago, Shahanga said:

The once and forever Coach

We're haunted, we keep getting the same crap coach, ritually sacrificed and then reincarnated in a different guise. We need John Safran

[playmaker]

If this guy has even a bit of decency he will resign tonight.

[belaguttman]

5 minutes ago, playmaker said:

If this guy has even a bit of decency he will resign tonight.

yes, but then he'll just get resurrected as our next dud coach

[HeartFc]

Surely...

[Tony999]

What needs to happen to get this man sacked?

[belaguttman]

8 hours ago, Tony999 said:

What needs to happen to get this man sacked?

Change of ownership

[jw1739]

On 24/03/2019 at 9:19 AM, HEARTinator said:

From the article

"Interestingly, Joyce's family remain in the UK, making a return to Manchester even more tempting should the offer be made." 

And

“I worked with him and it was the hardest training sessions and the hardest days you can ever imagine,” Solskjaer said.

We hear you Ole. Wazza's best trait is as an enforcer at midweek training. That's what he excels at but not as a head coach/game day gaffer. CFG saddled us with a knob of a head coach on the basis that we needed cultural change. We could have got that and the chance to win silverware had we appointed, say, Popovic. We need to be run by local management not by out of touch suits at HQ 10,000 kms away.

Precisely. The cultural change we needed, and still need,  is in the brains, or lack of them, of our owners. Just as we, the fans, are half-hearted in our support for the club - and that's on a good day - so are many of the other people connected to the club, including the players. On the field we stand for nothing except being the antipodean branch office of Abu Dhabi.

Joyce himself is just a wrecking ball. He has presided over the departures of a long list of senior players, and introduced a mind-numbingly boring style of play that has almost no attacking intent whatsoever. He may like to blow his own trumpet about McGree, Wales and Atkinson being a part of the recent U-23 squad, but he had fuck all to do with the development of either McGree or Wales, and has to have his arm twisted before giving genuine City youngsters such as Pierias and Metcalfe a few minutes - just as he had to have his arm twisted to start Arzani last season. He's a total fraud.

[playmaker]

3 hours ago, jw1739 said:

antipodean branch office of Abu Dhabi

You are limiting yourself JW. CFG want control of the whole FFA.

 

Look at the big picture

The most powerful figure in Australian soccer now is an English-born former public relations and communications executive whose day job is to “protect and enhance the reputation” of the United Arab Emirates capital of Abu Dhabi.

Simon Pearce, the vice-chairman of A-League club Melbourne City and a special adviser to the executive affairs authority running Abu Dhabi, has been instrumental in driving corporate governance changes behind the scenes that today will install four new directors to the Football Federation Australia board and bring an end to the 15-year reign of first Frank and then Steven Lowy.

Pearce’s influence has grown rapidly in Australian soccer. A member of the nominations committee charged with finding new FFA board members, he is also a board member of the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix and part of the City Football Group that includes Manchester and Melbourne City, New York City FC and Yokohama F Marinos.

Melbourne City have backed the nominations of two of the four likely candidates to fill the vacant FFA board roles, Chris Nikou and Remo Nogorotto, as revealed by The Australian on Friday, while Pearce is also understood to have been a strong advocate of another likely candidate in former Labor senator Stephen Conroy, a Melbourne City fan and ambassador. City have also backed the nomination of an emerging board contender in Linda Norquay, the chief financial officer of Lachlan Murdoch’s Illyria.

He is also said to have backed Judith Griggs, the author of a report for FIFA recommending governance changes in Australia, who subsequently nominated for the FFA board. But Griggs, a one-time Formula One executive, withdrew last week citing a lack of soccer experience and international business commitments.

Pearce has led the charge for an independent A-League modelled along the lines of the EPL, moving for governance change that is both in line with FIFA statutes and gave A-League clubs more voting power regarding the FFA board — which resulted in Steven Lowy resigning his role in August, a move that will be made official at today’s FFA annual meeting.

Lowy had argued in vain he stood in the way of the clubs getting more control at board level and therefore the purse strings of the sport, potentially starving national teams and junior development programs of funds.

Pearce had earlier helped carve out deals with the NSW and Victorian state federations to enact the governance change, also in concert with the Professional Players Association, run by former CFG employee John Didulica. Under Pearce’s leadership at Melbourne City, the club have won an FFA Cup and invested about $40 million in their Australian operations, recouping a major part of the funds via the sales of players like Aaron Mooy and Daniel Arzani via Manchester City.

CFG has become a global football powerhouse under chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak with Manchester City at the forefront of a billion-dollar spending revolution that has brought trophies, such as last season’s EPL, and fans around the world. Pearce has been a part of that success with his role in the recently published book on the rise of Manchester City and CFG, Killing the Game, described as “to protect and enhance the reputation of the Emirate of Abu Dhabi in the eyes of the world” as the head of strategic communications for the government there.

> He has also recently been embroiled in allegations around English Premier League giants Manchester City, where he is a director, and allegations of circumventing financial regulations via the payment of sponsorships by companies connected to the club’s Abu Dhabi owner and the backdating of other financial agreements — both not allowed under European football’s financial fair play.

“We can do what we want,” was one damning quote attributed to Pearce in documents obtained by German publication Der Spiegel, and while Manchester City have said little publicly, they have stated the allegations are part of a “clear and organised” attempt to tarnish their reputation.

Pearce did not return calls from The Australian and other football identities were reluctant to talk about him on the record. One though did say “Simon is doing everything with the best interests of Australian football in mind” and another added: “He is just one part of a voting bloc and Melbourne Victory, Western Sydney Wanderers and Sydney FC have increased their influence … while Simon has had to pull back due to the controversy in Europe.”

Born in London, the 47-year-old Pearce was a communication executive who ran the Sydney office of global PR firm Burson-Marsteller. He left Australia in 2006 for Abu Dhabi, where he became director of strategic affairs and later entered the football world when the Abu Dhabi Group for Development and Investment bought Manchester City in 2008.

Manchester City have gone on to become an outstanding success on the field in the decade under their majority Abu Dhabi ownership. Melbourne City, meanwhile, played before a home crowd of less than 7000 last weekend. But they have also found interesting ways to grow their business off the field, Pearce has ensured the club is winning the competition handsomely.

[AntiScum]

44 minutes ago, playmaker said:

You are limiting yourself JW. CFG want control of the whole FFA.

 

Look at the big picture

The most powerful figure in Australian soccer now is an English-born former public relations and communications executive whose day job is to “protect and enhance the reputation” of the United Arab Emirates capital of Abu Dhabi.

Simon Pearce, the vice-chairman of A-League club Melbourne City and a special adviser to the executive affairs authority running Abu Dhabi, has been instrumental in driving corporate governance changes behind the scenes that today will install four new directors to the Football Federation Australia board and bring an end to the 15-year reign of first Frank and then Steven Lowy.

Pearce’s influence has grown rapidly in Australian soccer. A member of the nominations committee charged with finding new FFA board members, he is also a board member of the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix and part of the City Football Group that includes Manchester and Melbourne City, New York City FC and Yokohama F Marinos.

Melbourne City have backed the nominations of two of the four likely candidates to fill the vacant FFA board roles, Chris Nikou and Remo Nogorotto, as revealed by The Australian on Friday, while Pearce is also understood to have been a strong advocate of another likely candidate in former Labor senator Stephen Conroy, a Melbourne City fan and ambassador. City have also backed the nomination of an emerging board contender in Linda Norquay, the chief financial officer of Lachlan Murdoch’s Illyria.

He is also said to have backed Judith Griggs, the author of a report for FIFA recommending governance changes in Australia, who subsequently nominated for the FFA board. But Griggs, a one-time Formula One executive, withdrew last week citing a lack of soccer experience and international business commitments.

Pearce has led the charge for an independent A-League modelled along the lines of the EPL, moving for governance change that is both in line with FIFA statutes and gave A-League clubs more voting power regarding the FFA board — which resulted in Steven Lowy resigning his role in August, a move that will be made official at today’s FFA annual meeting.

Lowy had argued in vain he stood in the way of the clubs getting more control at board level and therefore the purse strings of the sport, potentially starving national teams and junior development programs of funds.

Pearce had earlier helped carve out deals with the NSW and Victorian state federations to enact the governance change, also in concert with the Professional Players Association, run by former CFG employee John Didulica. Under Pearce’s leadership at Melbourne City, the club have won an FFA Cup and invested about $40 million in their Australian operations, recouping a major part of the funds via the sales of players like Aaron Mooy and Daniel Arzani via Manchester City.

CFG has become a global football powerhouse under chairman Khaldoon Al Mubarak with Manchester City at the forefront of a billion-dollar spending revolution that has brought trophies, such as last season’s EPL, and fans around the world. Pearce has been a part of that success with his role in the recently published book on the rise of Manchester City and CFG, Killing the Game, described as “to protect and enhance the reputation of the Emirate of Abu Dhabi in the eyes of the world” as the head of strategic communications for the government there.

> He has also recently been embroiled in allegations around English Premier League giants Manchester City, where he is a director, and allegations of circumventing financial regulations via the payment of sponsorships by companies connected to the club’s Abu Dhabi owner and the backdating of other financial agreements — both not allowed under European football’s financial fair play.

“We can do what we want,” was one damning quote attributed to Pearce in documents obtained by German publication Der Spiegel, and while Manchester City have said little publicly, they have stated the allegations are part of a “clear and organised” attempt to tarnish their reputation.

Pearce did not return calls from The Australian and other football identities were reluctant to talk about him on the record. One though did say “Simon is doing everything with the best interests of Australian football in mind” and another added: “He is just one part of a voting bloc and Melbourne Victory, Western Sydney Wanderers and Sydney FC have increased their influence … while Simon has had to pull back due to the controversy in Europe.”

Born in London, the 47-year-old Pearce was a communication executive who ran the Sydney office of global PR firm Burson-Marsteller. He left Australia in 2006 for Abu Dhabi, where he became director of strategic affairs and later entered the football world when the Abu Dhabi Group for Development and Investment bought Manchester City in 2008.

Manchester City have gone on to become an outstanding success on the field in the decade under their majority Abu Dhabi ownership. Melbourne City, meanwhile, played before a home crowd of less than 7000 last weekend. But they have also found interesting ways to grow their business off the field, Pearce has ensured the club is winning the competition handsomely.

Wouldn't be a bad thing if they can bring in radical change. Promotion, relegation expansion getting rid of the salary cap and also a bigger say from ALL clubs rather than being the FFAs lapdogs. 

[jw1739]

1 hour ago, playmaker said:

You are limiting yourself JW. CFG want control of the whole FFA.

Yes, I know I am. Simon Pearce is just a paid lackey of a totalitarian regime in the Middle East, a regime that uses "sportswashing"  in an attempt to make it more acceptable than it otherwise would be. He would have a lot more credibility with me - and I suspect many others - if Melbourne City was actually a credible football club, well-managed and successful on the field. This season has proved to my satisfaction beyond reasonable doubt that it is neither.

[playmaker]

2 hours ago, jw1739 said:

Yes, I know I am. Simon Pearce is just a paid lackey of a totalitarian regime in the Middle East, a regime that uses "sportswashing"  in an attempt to make it more acceptable than it otherwise would be. He would have a lot more credibility with me - and I suspect many others - if Melbourne City was actually a credible football club, well-managed and successful on the field. This season has proved to my satisfaction beyond reasonable doubt that it is neither.

Hmmmm you can see the manifestation of corporate tyranny also can you?

Glad I am not the only one.

[CityBoyz]

Surely now that we are 6th and chance of home final slipping he’s out the door 

[Dylan]

10 minutes ago, CityBoyz said:

Surely now that we are 6th and chance of home final slipping he’s out the door 

He was gone as soon as an ACL spot became a lost cause

[jw1739]

1 hour ago, Dylan said:

He was gone as soon as an ACL spot became a lost cause

Logic says that he will go at the end of the season, but what worries me is that somehow he will bullshit his way past the post-season review process mentioned here:

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/a-tale-of-two-melbournes-joyce-on-edge-as-muscat-revs-up-for-finals-20190331-p519cc.html

There's certainly been a change in culture - whether the overall change is good or bad is a matter of opinion - but those matches that we should win against poor sides below us on the table we still lose with monotonous regularity, so there's been no change there.

"His fate will be decided by a post-season review, which will take into account a number of internal measures and judge him not just on playing results but a series of other metrics, including how much he has changed the culture at the club, one of the key performance indicators in his assessment."

[haz]

24 minutes ago, jw1739 said:

Logic says that he will go at the end of the season, but what worries me is that somehow he will bullshit his way past the post-season review process mentioned here:

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/a-tale-of-two-melbournes-joyce-on-edge-as-muscat-revs-up-for-finals-20190331-p519cc.html

There's certainly been a change in culture - whether the overall change is good or bad is a matter of opinion - but those matches that we should win against poor sides below us on the table we still lose with monotonous regularity, so there's been no change there.

"His fate will be decided by a post-season review, which will take into account a number of internal measures and judge him not just on playing results but a series of other metrics, including how much he has changed the culture at the club, one of the key performance indicators in his assessment."

Well other than Arzani he hasn't output any youth players for profit. So that would be a cross on that criteria

[CityBoyz]

 

[kingofhearts]

is he sacked yet

[haz]

10 hours ago, CityBoyz said:

 

Weak as piss

[Bob Latchford]

Kisnorbo will be announced today.

Edited March 31, 2019 by Bob Latchford
Spelling

[XxCiTySeNxX]

Apparently CFG has just announced the release of Joyce and Kisnorbo will be the replacement for the rest of the season.

 

 

 

Yeah April Fools. Never gonna happen, just go to Western United while u can, this club doesn't give a shit about its supporters. 

Giving away free tickets

Giving away $90 3 game memberships with Jerseys 

And Manchester just wanting our players so they can make money.

Us as members spend too much money every year to just be spat in the face

Face the facts

Edited March 31, 2019 by XxCiTySeNxX

[Harrison]

@haz Cue the kenno video. 

[Imtellingyou]

There's a clause that contract can be terminated on April 1st.

[jw1739]

 

12 hours ago, CityBoyz said:

 

For someone who has a lot to say about "professionalism" that was completely unacceptable from Joyce.

[moops]

He'll see out the season and be gone is my prediction. 

[playmaker]

48 minutes ago, jw1739 said:

 

For someone who has a lot to say about "professionalism" that was completely unacceptable from Joyce.

Just a reflection of the culture he has instilled in the club. No wonder we are a circus.

[Imtellingyou]

Everyone knows that he's here for two seasons only.  Yet, he's got appoval to wreck the team and supporters. He will be leaving us with the smoke and ruins. Really not sure what's the master plan and vision here.

[jw1739]

1 hour ago, Imtellingyou said:

Everyone knows that he's here for two seasons only.  Yet, he's got appoval to wreck the team and supporters. He will be leaving us with the smoke and ruins. Really not sure what's the master plan and vision here.

That's the hardest part for me to understand. I can't see what CFG has done to Melbourne City is consistent in any way with an organization that purports to value "the brand."

[Imtellingyou]

CFG ranks NYC above us. They didn't give a dime for the current already written off season. That's a very good indicator for what's coming next. Their branding works only for the flagship motherclub. 

[IssySG]

At uni, checking this forum every hour, waiting for the moment it's categorised as 'hot'. Might have to wait till June but I'm not going to stop checking.

[haz]

4 hours ago, Harrison said:

@haz Cue the kenno video. 

Not till the glorious day comes that Joyce leaves shall I post the video

[belaguttman]

4 hours ago, jw1739 said:

That's the hardest part for me to understand. I can't see what CFG has done to Melbourne City is consistent in any way with an organization that purports to value "the brand."

They've certainly trashed the brand here, so thoroughly and relentlessly that it almost appears to be deliberate. I have to keep reminding myself of the veracity of  Hanlon's Razor

[JMSTEP123]

4 hours ago, haz said:

Not till the glorious day comes that Joyce leaves shall I post the video

Interest peaked.

[Afif Adam]

According to FTBL , Joyce is first pick to replace Rudan if he leaves....funny this league

[haz]

7 hours ago, Afif Adam said:

According to FTBL , Joyce is first pick to replace Rudan if he leaves....funny this league

HAHHAHAHA

 #NixIn

[HEARTinator]

7 hours ago, Afif Adam said:

According to FTBL , Joyce is first pick to replace Rudan if he leaves....funny this league

Funny what you find in dark places 

[Dylan]

When the season is over they really do need a clean out of the football department. Including Pertillo and all assistant coaches (yep even bambi 2)

hopefully both of the Vidosic’s are moved on too

Edited April 1, 2019 by Dylan

[moops]

I think this is the first time I am looking forward for the off season, hoping for good things to happen. 

[Tony999]

8 hours ago, Afif Adam said:

According to FTBL , Joyce is first pick to replace Rudan if he leaves....funny this league

Possibly an April Fool's joke. Who in their right mind would even consider Wazza let alone hire him?

[jw1739]

1 hour ago, Tony999 said:

Possibly an April Fool's joke. Who in their right mind would even consider Wazza let alone hire him?

Has to be. After all the positive things that are reported about Rudan, including adopting aspects of Maori culture, Joyce would be a complete change of direction.

The only nose-rubbing Joyce would do is to rub as many players' noses into the shit as he could.