haz Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 Honestly I'm not sold on Florian. He gives 10% of the effort that Berisha provides. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 11 minutes ago, haz said: Honestly I'm not sold on Florian. He gives 10% of the effort that Berisha provides. He didn't contest that clearance after the Leckie opportunity where he went wide of the keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 14 minutes ago, haz said: Honestly I'm not sold on Florian. He gives 10% of the effort that Berisha provides. Yeap I take back what I said starting him over berisha. If frenchy was a car he'd only ever be in cruise control. The guy only goes one speed. How good is Van der Vanne though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 12 minutes ago, kingofhearts said: Yeap I take back what I said starting him over berisha. If frenchy was a car he'd only ever be in cruise control. The guy only goes one speed. How good is Van der Vanne though The issue is, he is capable of producing some really good football. He is just too timid and goes missing when games get tough. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 The only thing they have got is Brimmer on set pieces, and even still very contentious goal. Very very confident if we keep this up at least 1 more goal will come Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 9 minutes ago, malloy said: The issue is, he is capable of producing some really good football. He is just too timid and goes missing when games get tough. Very true, that pass he did to jmac was mint. But he's just not consistent enough to start imo. Berisha may not always have a massive impact on the game but his effort level is always at 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 Our defence is fucked. Nuno not picking up his man for both goals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 Completely unmarked in the box What the fuck are we doing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 18 Author Report Share Posted February 18 We used to cave in at the end of each half. Now it's the beginning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 Huh? Berisha for Tilio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 2 minutes ago, haz said: Huh? Berisha for Tilio? Not the right sub to make, but Tillio has been reasonably quiet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 WHY ISNT NABBOUT ONNNN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 18 Author Report Share Posted February 18 (edited) 3 minutes ago, malloy said: Not the right sub to make, but Tillio has been reasonably quiet. Also has a yellow. I have a horrible feeling about this match now. We need a goal fast. Edited February 18 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 I miss a ball playing centre forward, one who we can play in an set up play. I wonder if JMAC is unwell, work rate and pressure isn’t the same. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 Seriously why did we fuck around giving Rado a contract? Fucked line up. Florian is a passenger. Talbot isn't good enough. And Reis isn't in form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 All over now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 18 Author Report Share Posted February 18 Just now, haz said: Seriously why did we fuck around giving Rado a contract? Fucked line up. Florian is a passenger. Talbot isn't good enough. And Reis isn't in form. I'm waiting for the "Sack Rado" thread now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 1 minute ago, fensaddler said: All over now. Hold my beer @haz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 Just now, fensaddler said: Hold my beer @haz We should of wiped the floor with victory. Not good enough. Our form under Rado isn't any better than the mid table teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 5 minutes ago, Mr MO said: I miss a ball playing centre forward, one who we can play in an set up play. I wonder if JMAC is unwell, work rate and pressure isn’t the same. Then again they have 2 good centre backs. 2 minutes ago, haz said: Seriously why did we fuck around giving Rado a contract? Fucked line up. Florian is a passenger. Talbot isn't good enough. And Reis isn't in form. He’s just rotating, nothing to see here. 2 minutes ago, jw1739 said: I'm waiting for the "Sack Rado" thread now... Complete rubbish over reaction, we’ve played bad games in the past too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 15 shots to 6... another one of those games for us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 5 minutes ago, haz said: 15 shots to 6... another one of those games for us. JMAC “prolific” in paper goals scored when you create a lot but his conversion rate is actually not that good (but nobody wants to talk about that). He had 2 or 3 really good chances, probably our best chances. All the rest were just shots a bit further out. Composure of the likes of the VdV wasn’t good tonight either. There’s your difference in those big games like today. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 2 minutes ago, Mr MO said: JMAC “prolific” in paper goals scored when you create a lot but his conversion rate is actually not that good (but nobody wants to talk about that). He had 2 or 3 really good chances, probably our best chances. All the rest were just shots a bit further out. Composure of the likes of the VdV wasn’t good tonight either. There’s your difference in those big games like today. Agree. That last chance he just needed to nod his head, but the whole team were slow out of the blocks, once again movement was lacking. VDV did have a bit of an off night, same with Tillio tbh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 (edited) Before people say, bottom of the table we should have won by 0-5. It’s a derby and Victory isn’t that bad as that table suggests, also the new recruits are handy reinforcement for them. 3 minutes ago, moops said: Agree. That last chance he just needed to nod his head, but the whole team were slow out of the blocks, once again movement was lacking. VDV did have a bit of an off night, same with Tillio tbh. It’s very difficult to create good movement in the final third if you can’t play in or involve your centre forward but I’m a broken record unfortunately. Edited February 18 by Mr MO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post neio Posted February 18 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 18 (edited) We weren't great, that's for certain. We just passed the ball sideways and created not alot. Berenguer is an icing on cake midfielder but he doesn't have the movement like Berisha does to move the defenders and midfielders in front of him. Apart from Leckie it didn't really look like anyone was going to score. It's not panic stations or anything, it's one bad performance that we haven't got points from. I'm sure we will come back Also one final point, fuck off Fornaroli Edited February 18 by neio 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 Fuck me. What is the deal with our finishing? It's like everyone has been told not to shoot unless under some specific circumstance that happens once every like 5 games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 (edited) 5 minutes ago, KSK_47 said: Fuck me. What is the deal with our finishing? It's like everyone has been told not to shoot unless under some specific circumstance that happens once every like 5 games When was the last game we were super clinical? I can’t even remember, even going years back feels like we have always been like this we just don’t always concede that easy and then you win games. Edited February 18 by Mr MO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 (edited) And don't get me started on glover tonight Edited February 19 by KSK_47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 Embarrassing. Embarrassing that we let the visit0rs play with intensity, particularly in the second half when we looked like we were in cruise mode. We defend far better with Good rather than Reis; he's far tighter on his players than Reis and better in the air. We need to respond next week by spanking the smurfs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 I think these are the games where we need Nabbout earlier, Tilio wasn't at the races from minute 1. Also we need Curtis Good back pronto. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 One other thing that frustrates me is Talbot not being to be last 90 or even really get close. We're up to game 18 and every week at the 60ish minute he starts to weaken and by 75 he is spent. Last night it was a real pain having to use a sub window to get him off for a defender when we needed attackers on the pitch. I obviously don't have the numbers, but I don't think he did considerably more work than bos, Geria or Cadete and those 3 we're all going pretty strong right up to the 90th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted February 18 Report Share Posted February 18 I'm hoping this turns out to be a blessing in disguise, because we were always going to lose one of these games where we've absolutely dominated general play. And because it was against Victory, there won't be the temptation to write it off as 'just one of those nights'. I don't want us to stagger to the plate like we have the last two years (yeah, first world problems for those who've been around since the early Heart days); I want the league done and dusted with 3-4 games to play. And it feels like last night may be that pivotal moment in a season where we can go one of two ways. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 2 hours ago, neio said: One other thing that frustrates me is Talbot not being to be last 90 or even really get close. We're up to game 18 and every week at the 60ish minute he starts to weaken and by 75 he is spent. Last night it was a real pain having to use a sub window to get him off for a defender when we needed attackers on the pitch. I obviously don't have the numbers, but I don't think he did considerably more work than bos, Geria or Cadete and those 3 we're all going pretty strong right up to the 90th Is he a converted CB? I don't know why Galloway is getting limited game time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mattyh001 Posted February 19 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 19 (edited) honestly thought we had them by throat the first half simply didnt put away our chances. You cant blame any else but yourselves when you fail to score from your opportunities. Second half was a lot closer. their third goal was complete arse, and if the players are right that the ref fucked up and caught our players off guard then the third goal is bullshit. but again, we had the chances so ..... fucking hurts to lose to the tards, but is it just me or have the tables turned; it honestly feels like every derby is now their grand final - like it used to be for us back in the Heart days? dont think Glover was as bad as some say. Berenguer is a luxary like player. hope he is gone seasons end. Leckie was great. Nabbout was decent when he came on. the rest of our attackers were wasteful. Good was missed at the back. agree with others, we need him back pronto. Edited February 19 by mattyh001 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 19 Author Report Share Posted February 19 27 minutes ago, mattyh001 said: fucking hurts to lose to the tards, but is it just me or have the tables turned; it honestly feels like every derby is now their grand final - like it used to be for us back in the Heart days? IMO that's a very astute observation. We've got to adapt to the change in circumstances. However, despite recent seasons they still have the slight advantage going head-to-head - after last night, all competitions, Victory 15 wins, Heat/City 14 wins, 11 draws. (I read somewhere that before last night it was 14, 14, 11.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, mattyh001 said: fucking hurts to lose to the tards, but is it just me or have the tables turned; it honestly feels like every derby is now their grand final - like it used to be for us back in the Heart days? Yes, they now have a small club mentality; the derby means everything, it's their Grand Final, so they approach it with that intensity. 8 hours ago, Tommykins said: I think these are the games where we need Nabbout earlier, Tilio wasn't at the races from minute 1. Also we need Curtis Good back pronto. Tilio does appear to struggle in big games, the Grand Final against the smurfs excepted. Good would have worn Bruno like a glove; he managed to lose Reis in the box. It was good to face a team that matched us with our usual intensity, it unsettled us; hopefully, we can learn from this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 Thoughts on Ikonomides vs Bos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, NewConvert said: Thoughts on Ikonomides vs Bos? Was that a contest? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 4 hours ago, rass said: Was that a contest? Well I thought that Ikonomides did better than Nani in the first match and Ikonomides did play well in the first half. Reason for thinking this way is that maybe the A-League home grown product is capable of matching the "name" players that the A-League is paying through the nose for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted February 19 Report Share Posted February 19 1 hour ago, NewConvert said: Well I thought that Ikonomides did better than Nani in the first match and Ikonomides did play well in the first half. Reason for thinking this way is that maybe the A-League home grown product is capable of matching the "name" players that the A-League is paying through the nose for. Sorry, was being cheeky. But really don't rate Ikonomides. Reckon he's had his time and doesn't offer much. Wouldn't surprise if the scum offload him next season. Spent a lot of that giving professional fouls and was lucky not to see a card. Bos on the other hand has the world in front of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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