Mr MO Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 40 minutes ago, rass said: Not sure if it's a total fake but do think there is something behind this, especially the exaggerated fall after the 'contact'. Remember, isn't this the same bloke who 20 minutes earlier was laying dead inside the goals after a bump with Tilio, with one arm severed and the other shoulder completely busted? Held the game up for minutes only to magically return to take a throw in seconds after? Looks a tough guy but not so sure after the way Hercules Berenguer fended him off for our great 2nd goal. Something not adding up... Fully agreed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post fensaddler Posted February 23, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, rass said: I agree with this. For all those complaining the first touch was outside, well perhaps it was. But who says the ref must give the foul on the first touch? Think of the scenario that happens multiple times in a game, where a player has the ball and is being nibbled at by an opposing player. Ref might let it go for one, two tackles then finally awards the foul on the third or whatever. Surely this is same thing? Reg sees contact, unsure, waits and then awards on the subsequent contact. Nothing to see here. Moreover, deserved a yellow card given the position and potential impact on the game. Perhaps felt that the penalty was enough. I'm not sympathetic to CCM for a host of reasons. 1. We get bad calls against us, we've had a fair few recently and these things both even out, and are a reflection of poor quality refereeing. 2. They were play acting through the game. This IMHO was a major factor in the second decision. 3. As in previous matches against other opponents the strategy appears to be to kick us out of the game, especially but not solely Tilio. CCM tried to kick us up in the air, and got away with a lot because of inconsistent refereeing. The crocodile tears about them being innocent parties and hard done to doesn't wash. 4. They've no claim to be the better team over the course of the match. On the balance of play they didn't really deserve anything. 5. The commentariat hate us. They and we can argue all week about whether particular decisions were right or wrong, but they were subject to thorough and endless review, and there was apparently sufficient ambiguity to both that there was not enough to overturn the original decision. Having said all of that, we should be good enough to put ourselves two or three goals ahead and not concede soft goals to our opponents, so that such issues don't have a material impact. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 4 hours ago, fensaddler said: Having said all of that, we should be good enough to put ourselves two or three goals ahead and not concede soft goals to our opponents, so that such issues don't have a material impact. IMO the most important comment that's been made all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 7 hours ago, fensaddler said: Having said all of that, we should be good enough to put ourselves two or three goals ahead and not concede soft goals to our opponents, so that such issues don't have a material impact. Two shots on target, two goals. That is not good for the team leading the competition. We'll get smashed in ACL playing teams with both a better attack and a better defence than ALM teams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 The ABC is reporting that Miller was left with a gash on his foot and that the refereeing boss has conceded that Shaun Evans got the penalty wrong and the Leckie/Miller incident wrong. Whether that means that Evans is dropped remains to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 Aidan O’Neill had one hell of a shiner. The fight would have been stopped I reckon. Going to need a good cut man to get him back in the ring I mean field for the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted February 23, 2022 Report Share Posted February 23, 2022 7 hours ago, Shahanga said: Aidan O’Neill had one hell of a shiner. The fight would have been stopped I reckon. Going to need a good cut man to get him back in the ring I mean field for the weekend. I think he is out regardless, accumulation of yellows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyh001 Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 On 23/02/2022 at 10:13 AM, Tommykins said: Was probably a penalty, ours probably wasn't (IMO) it's annoying when these things happen in the same game, but ultimately these things even themselves out across the season.  On 23/02/2022 at 11:07 AM, n i k o said: Our penalty i think has some merit. I think Tilio tried to keep his balance after the first tackle and then very possibly got caught in the follow up once he had entered the box.  On 23/02/2022 at 11:14 AM, Jovan said: But thats only really clear after endless reviews. If you watch it in real time its 100% a foul and cleary outside the box. The argument that Tilio rode the tackle and then was fouled again is debatable. For me it was a bad call, but the game is full of bad calls. The Leckie non foul call was the real bad call. And what made it worse was the time it took.  bad call or not, the referee has the right to defend his call unless the VAR is crystal. in this spot, there is some evidence (even if very tiny) that there was secondary contact in the box. if the ref believes that was key to the foul, then the ref is entitled to call a pen (even if it looked bullshit to most others). in a way, Evans should be applauded for backing his call since the use of VAR can be tedious and the freeze frame nature for so many unclear spots is really taking away from the game. IMO the Mariners can feel a little hard done by. this really was a double whammy. as others have said though, this is what happens when you play act and every team has had good days and bad days with the VAR.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted February 24, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 Whatever we think of Evans, I'm pretty sure he's reffing our next game against Sydney. So get ready for another absolute howler against us to make up for this game. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, kingofhearts said: Whatever we think of Evans, I'm pretty sure he's reffing our next game against Sydney. So get ready for another absolute howler against us to make up for this game. Is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imtellingyou Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 No way he will be the referee in our next game or any other game this weekend. There was too much bad spotlight on the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted February 24, 2022 Report Share Posted February 24, 2022 3 hours ago, kingofhearts said: Whatever we think of Evans, I'm pretty sure he's reffing our next game against Sydney. So get ready for another absolute howler against us to make up for this game. Chris Beath. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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