mattyh001 Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) our WSW game has been rescheduled and the Nix are 3-0 after 26 min (Avondale down to 10 players too). https://melbournecityfc.com.au/news/fixture-update-wsw-match-rescheduled Edited December 31, 2021 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 Assuming we play Nix, is it determined whether we're home or away? Or is that still up for grabs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyh001 Posted December 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 Wellington are forced by the rules of the Cup to play all games away from home. at 3-0 to the Nix and Avondale down a player, would take some bullshit and a half for us to play Avondale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icantthinkofacoolname Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 Wonder if we will play it at AAMI or take it to a suburban ground? Could be cool to play it somewhere like at Bentleigh Greens’ ground (where we are hosting some women’s games this year) just to trial the whole playing in the SE thing, and also because I don’t imagine a very big crowd is to be expected. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, icantthinkofacoolname said: Wonder if we will play it at AAMI or take it to a suburban ground? Could be cool to play it somewhere like at Bentleigh Greens’ ground (where we are hosting some women’s games this year) just to trial the whole playing in the SE thing, and also because I don’t imagine a very big crowd is to be expected. We've always played these games at AAMI, though they've usually been pre-season. We'll maximise our crowd if we play at AAMI, and the fixture is likely to be on a night when we would have been playing there anyway. Three days before Christmas what could be better? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 1 hour ago, fensaddler said: We've always played these games at AAMI, though they've usually been pre-season. We'll maximise our crowd if we play at AAMI, and the fixture is likely to be on a night when we would have been playing there anyway. Three days before Christmas what could be better? It's definitely been an unfavourable situation for the NPL teams given that it's well into their post-season, but the cup is going to garner a lot more support and merit if it's played during the A-League season. I know I'm more pumped for this than I would have been if it were a pre-season game that's inevitably going to be treated as a friendly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icantthinkofacoolname Posted December 14, 2021 Report Share Posted December 14, 2021 27 minutes ago, Nate said: It's definitely been an unfavourable situation for the NPL teams given that it's well into their post-season, but the cup is going to garner a lot more support and merit if it's played during the A-League season. I know I'm more pumped for this than I would have been if it were a pre-season game that's inevitably going to be treated as a friendly. There’s also a deadline for the cup this year as the winner qualifies for the preliminary rounds of the Champions League. So they need to have it wrapped up by the time that starts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 15, 2021 Report Share Posted December 15, 2021 IMO the most important determinant of attendance, other than the negative impact of COVID, is advertising the match in the first place. Precious little publicity seems to be given to the FFA Cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughJass Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 Casey fields it is 22 December 7:30pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyh001 Posted December 16, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, HughJass said: Casey fields it is 22 December 7:30pm location works out great for me but is very disappointing in general. wondering if they have done this thinking that people won't come out being a midweek game during the week of Christmas and that our attendance against Perth was shite. Edited December 16, 2021 by mattyh001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, mattyh001 said: location works out great for me but is very disappointing in general. wondering if they have done this thinking that people won't come out being the week of Christmas and that our attendance against Perth was shite. Probably just saving the cost of hiring AAMI Park. Three days before Christmas, FFA Cup, middle of a pandemic...does anyone really care? But in the longer term I'm not sure it's sending the right message about Melbourne "City." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citypool Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 With all respect to everyone they have to try something different because people are not turning up at Aami park Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icantthinkofacoolname Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 I assume they mean the main pitch in the CFA where the NPL boys play and not the main oval used for AFLW right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, citypool said: With all respect to everyone they have to try something different because people are not turning up at Aami park People don't turn up to AAMI Park for a whole variety of reasons. One of the main ones is that we are steadily losing our identity, and moving matches to Cranbourne isn't going to help that. Unfortunately, City Football Group has so much money that it can manipulate football into taking the direction it wants rather than one that the fans of the game would like to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 I was locked in for a Wednesday night game at AAMI and thoroughly looking forward to it. But Casey Fields from Geelong? Bloody unlikely. So that's -1 to the expected crowd already. Chances are Mrs Fen would have gone to this one as well. So more likely -2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 4 hours ago, citypool said: With all respect to everyone they have to try something different because people are not turning up at Aami park We are coming out of lockdowns where numerous people are still working from home and plenty of people are attending christmas functions etc. Moving it out to Casey Fields will just exacerbate the problem. Honestly, the club can go fuck themselves over this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recyclosaurusrex Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 If I wasn't going to a gig that night I'd be super keen for a game at Casey Fields. Living in Wonthaggi it is way way closer to home than AAMI park. I understand though that it's a pain in the dick for a lot of people to get to though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icantthinkofacoolname Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 I’m fine with moving some games around for the cup. I remember in its first season we played Sydney in Ballarat. But obviously would be against this if it were a league game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, icantthinkofacoolname said: I’m fine with moving some games around for the cup. I remember in its first season we played Sydney in Ballarat. But obviously would be against this if it were a league game. I disagree. You either have a home ground or you don't. Further, if you actually want the FFA Cup to be a significant competition in its own right and not just a pre-season run-around, then you treat it as such. IMO the club ought to issue a statement on why the match is being played where it is - surely members are entitled to that? It's fine to set up your training and administrative base where it suits you, but if you're interested in growing support for the club IMO with Melbourne's radial train system, any move of matches out of the CBD is a poor move. Edited December 16, 2021 by jw1739 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, jw1739 said: I disagree. You either have a home ground or you don't. Further, if you actually want the FFA Cup to be a significant competition in its own right and not just a pre-season run-around, then you treat it as such. IMO the club ought to issue a statement on why the match is being played where it is - surely members are entitled to that? It's fine to set up your training and administrative base where it suits you, but if you're interested in growing support for the club IMO with Melbourne's radial train system, any move of matches out of the CBD is a poor move. So what if with the overhanging Omnicrom situation the club was asked to consider not to use AAMI? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityBoyz Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 What’s the point in hiring out AAMI Park for what most likely to be around 4-5k crowd at best. it’s the FFA Cup time to take it out to the regions, not going to hurt anyone and good to see club trying something else. If it was an Aleague game that would be different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, Mr MO said: So what if with the overhanging Omnicrom situation the club was asked to consider not to use AAMI? Of course that would be perfectly reasonable. That is why IMO the club should issue a statement. At this stage we don't know anything except that it's at Casey Fields. Is it behind closed doors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityBoyz Posted December 16, 2021 Report Share Posted December 16, 2021 34 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Of course that would be perfectly reasonable. That is why IMO the club should issue a statement. At this stage we don't know anything except that it's at Casey Fields. Is it behind closed doors? There will be a crowd tickets go on sale soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 4 hours ago, CityBoyz said: What’s the point in hiring out AAMI Park for what most likely to be around 4-5k crowd at best. it’s the FFA Cup time to take it out to the regions, not going to hurt anyone and good to see club trying something else. If it was an Aleague game that would be different Not going to hurt anyone? Now look, I'm not going to sook like Victory fans over their TIFO, but plenty of us are more than mildly pissed off that the club has chosen to stage a match at a location that most of us will really struggle to get to. That feels a lot like 'fuck off you don't matter' when you live in Geelong. 4 hours ago, CityBoyz said: What’s the point in hiring out AAMI Park for what most likely to be around 4-5k crowd at best. it’s the FFA Cup time to take it out to the regions, not going to hurt anyone and good to see club trying something else. If it was an Aleague game that would be different And on the hiring out of AAMI. 1. Those 4 or 5000 are our loyal fans. 2. We've done it before. 3. We don't need to open all the stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityBoyz Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, fensaddler said: Not going to hurt anyone? Now look, I'm not going to sook like Victory fans over their TIFO, but plenty of us are more than mildly pissed off that the club has chosen to stage a match at a location that most of us will really struggle to get to. That feels a lot like 'fuck off you don't matter' when you live in Geelong. And on the hiring out of AAMI. 1. Those 4 or 5000 are our loyal fans. 2. We've done it before. 3. We don't need to open all the stands. It’s not ideal I get that. I’m not going either as it’s 1.5 hours for me if traffic is good but not like we haven’t done this before. Didn’t we play a FFA Cup game against Sydney in Ballarat ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 37 minutes ago, CityBoyz said: It’s not ideal I get that. I’m not going either as it’s 1.5 hours for me if traffic is good but not like we haven’t done this before. Didn’t we play a FFA Cup game against Sydney in Ballarat I've seen quite a few preseason matches up at Ballarat, but I think they were all friendlies. I don't think we've played FFA ties there, and certainly not last eight ties against anyone. Last eight home ties, even preseason, have always been at AAMI. Casey Fields is worse for me to get to than Ballarat. Ballarat is closer and I've been there plenty of times before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 We certainly played Sydney in Ballarat in 2014, the first season of the Cup. We lost 3-1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 2 hours ago, jw1739 said: We certainly played Sydney in Ballarat in 2014, the first season of the Cup. We lost 3-1. How far into the comp JW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 52 minutes ago, fensaddler said: How far into the comp JW? @fensaddler Round of 32. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FFA_Cup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted December 17, 2021 Report Share Posted December 17, 2021 13 hours ago, jw1739 said: @fensaddler Round of 32. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FFA_Cup Thanks. So right at the beginning in all senses. Full on preseason mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icantthinkofacoolname Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 Free entry apparently. Tempted to go check it out but it’s a long drive in Wednesday night traffic for me. Also just heard it’s on the oval used for AFLW and not the rectangular ground we play NPL at 😕 Just had a quick search to see what it would be like and apparently it’s okay but still football on an oval is never ideal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icantthinkofacoolname Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 Awful communication from the club for a game which is 3 days away though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, icantthinkofacoolname said: Awful communication from the club for a game which is 3 days away though. Diabolical. Go to the club's own webpage for the match https://melbournecityfc.com.au/fixtures/melbourne-city-fc-v-wellington-phoenix-fc-ffa-cup-22-12-2021/5gud7p30tucxxts1fyedhd6ac and have a look. It says nothing other than "Casey Fields." Then look at the "Latest News" below - and tell me what relevance those items have to the match on 22nd? This is how to piss people off big time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted December 19, 2021 Report Share Posted December 19, 2021 Yes, I want to go, even from Geelong, and I need some information... You'd think they didn't want us there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citypool Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 I’m gonna have to watch this one on tv the week is to busy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 I'm hearing gold coin donations for members the only cost of entry. I'd guess that might be going to charity, but don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityBoyz Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 https://melbournecityfc.com.au/news/free-entry-confirmed-for-ffa-cup-quarter-final free entry for all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrehalf Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 Costs 50k to hire AAMI, regardless of what the event is. Would be losing huge money on regular season home games, let alone FFA cup games to play there. Wouldn't surprise me if this is being used as a test case for a new stadium also. Gauging fans attendances from the area, as well as wining and dining local powerbrokers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 TBH I find the lack of information on the details of this venue and facilities that patrons can expect if they go to be breathtaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted December 20, 2021 Report Share Posted December 20, 2021 30 minutes ago, jw1739 said: TBH I find the lack of information on the details of this venue and facilities that patrons can expect if they go to be breathtaking. I'll give you the info, I live about 5 minutes from casey fields. There is absolutely fuck all there, not the easiest place to get there by public transport, not great car parking especially if something else is on at the other fields (and there is the main covid testing centre for the area there) and while it's a nice oval for footy it's not ideal for round ball football. I assume there will be some food of food/drink truck but who knows what. I imagine it will be pretty basic, wouldn't expect much to be honest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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