Nate Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 I reckon it's almost guaranteed we'll release him before the season's out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Nate said: I reckon it's almost guaranteed we'll release him before the season's out Of course he could do a Winston Bogarde on us? Assuming he's on somewhere between $300,000 and $600,000 if I were him I wouldn't be packing my bags in a hurry. Nice little bonus at the end of his playing career. A contract is a contract. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, jw1739 said: Of course he could do a Winston Bogarde on us? Assuming he's on somewhere between $300,000 and $600,000 if I were him I wouldn't be packing my bags in a hurry. Nice little bonus at the end of his playing career. A contract is a contract. Did we sign him on a 2 year deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr MO said: Did we sign him on a 2 year deal? Yes indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannon Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 obviously showing amazing signs, don't know what you guys are talking about well worth the money, his made the bench again what a superstar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Mr MO said: Did we sign him on a 2 year deal? Albatro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 18 minutes ago, fensaddler said: Albatro. Minimum wage for designated players is $300k per season. Now with 26 rounds that is $11.5k per bench appearance! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannon Posted March 6, 2022 Report Share Posted March 6, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 So $300-$600 per season, how many free GA tickets per game is this? Shall we ask the club to re-allocate this cap space from designated player to designated fans? Money isn’t a issue obviously nor the duty to explain to the fan base. We might even some more fans to the ground as well, heck they might buy some chicken strips to justify opening AAMI park. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannon Posted March 9, 2022 Report Share Posted March 9, 2022 there needs to be a statement made soon tbh about whats going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 12, 2022 Report Share Posted March 12, 2022 On 09/03/2022 at 8:12 PM, Bannon said: there needs to be a statement made soon tbh about whats going on. Has there been a sighting of him at the club? Does anyone know whether he's still with us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted March 12, 2022 Report Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, jw1739 said: Has there been a sighting of him at the club? Does anyone know whether he's still with us? I can’t help to wonder every game how we would fair having a $300 to $600k a season player available. Edited March 12, 2022 by Mr MO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted March 12, 2022 Report Share Posted March 12, 2022 14 hours ago, Mr MO said: I can’t help to wonder every game how we would fair having a $300 to $600k a season player available. We do, but he is not good enough. Being paid 300 to 600K p/y doesn't mean he's going to produce that value. Sometimes things just don't go the way you expect but seriously it's time to let go. We signed a player that didn't work out, it happens every season to nearly every single proffessional team worldwide, just get over it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted March 12, 2022 Report Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) On 13/3/2022 at 9:07 AM, Jovan said: We do, but he is not good enough. Being paid 300 to 600K p/y doesn't mean he's going to produce that value. Sometimes things just don't go the way you expect but seriously it's time to let go. We signed a player that didn't work out, it happens every season to nearly every single proffessional team worldwide, just get over it. Sorry you must be misunderstanding my comment, I’m not particularly talking about Pucci now. Imagine having a designated player available on top of our current squad, the damage and difference it could make in games like last night. PK didn’t make a sub as he believed the quality wasn’t there on the bench to make a difference. (And yes I know you believe that $300k to $600k per season gets you nothing , which I disagree with). But on Pucci since you asked, it’s inexcusable and I won’t let it go. Edited March 13, 2022 by Mr MO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellydrum Posted March 12, 2022 Report Share Posted March 12, 2022 18 hours ago, jw1739 said: Has there been a sighting of him at the club? Does anyone know whether he's still with us? Saw him yesterday leaving the stadium. Also saw La Rocca if it's any consolation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 12, 2022 Report Share Posted March 12, 2022 30 minutes ago, Mr MO said: Sorry you must be misunderstanding my comment, I’m not particularly talking about Pucci now. Imagine having a designated player available on top our current squad, the damage and difference it could make in games like last night. PK didn’t make a sub as he believed the quality wasn’t there on the bench to make a difference. (And yes I know you believe that $300k to $600k per season gets you nothing , which I disagree with). But on Pucci since you asked, it’s inexcusable and I won’t let it go. And I won't let go that we now seem to be doing almost the same with Endoh. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 13, 2022 Report Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 hour ago, bellydrum said: Saw him yesterday leaving the stadium. Also saw La Rocca if it's any consolation. La Rocca is part of the coaching staff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 13, 2022 Report Share Posted March 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, n i k o said: La Rocca is part of the coaching staff There you go. I didn't know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted March 23, 2022 Report Share Posted March 23, 2022 After last night its pretty clear things will need to change drastically if this bloke gets any minutes. Up until last night I was of the opinion that main reason he wasn't playing was because Berenguer was playing at an unbelievable level, but when Caputo came on that said everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Jovan said: After last night its pretty clear things will need to change drastically if this bloke gets any minutes. Up until last night I was of the opinion that main reason he wasn't playing was because Berenguer was playing at an unbelievable level, but when Caputo came on that said everything. Let’s hope he doesn’t turn into a Winston Bogarde, I think he’s signed on a multi year deal. We can use the money for another goalkeeper next season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 8 minutes ago, Mr MO said: Let’s hope he doesn’t turn into a Winston Bogarde, I think he’s signed on a multi year deal. We can use the money for another goalkeeper next season! I can't see that happening. We've had several visa players that all signed multi year deals and but then for whatever reason the club and the player has come to an arrangement. O'halloran, Cabrera, Hughes and Budzinski off the top of my head and all of them was sorted out. If it's determined at the end of the season or close to the end its not going to work i would be completely surprised it got ugly. At the end of the day we not Chelsea and Pucciarelli isn’t a big name international. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, Jovan said: I can't see that happening. We've had several visa players that all signed multi year deals and but then for whatever reason the club and the player has come to an arrangement. O'halloran, Cabrera, Hughes and Budzinski off the top of my head and all of them was sorted out. If it's determined at the end of the season or close to the end its not going to work i would be completely surprised it got ugly. At the end of the day we not Chelsea and Pucciarelli isn’t a big name international. Some of these players you’ve mentioned got released mid season, why do you think we haven’t done this with Pucci? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr MO said: Let’s hope he doesn’t turn into a Winston Bogarde, I think he’s signed on a multi year deal. We can use the money for another goalkeeper next season! Pucci is on a two-season deal, so he has another season with us. IMO he is already our Bogarde. He appears to be doing everything required of his contract, because he makes the bench occasionally. Provided he keeps to the conditions of the contract he's entitled to see the two seasons through - precisely the same as Bogarde was at Chelsea. It's an unfortunate situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Pucci is on a two-season deal, so he has another season with us. IMO he is already our Bogarde. He appears to be doing everything required of his contract, because he makes the bench occasionally. Provided he keeps to the conditions of the contract he's entitled to see the two seasons through - precisely the same as Bogarde was at Chelsea. It's an unfortunate situation. I hope we can mutually agree to terminate his contract. Its not good for anyone having him here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 54 minutes ago, Mr MO said: Some of these players you’ve mentioned got released mid season, why do you think we haven’t done this with Pucci? Maybe this one is more like the Koren scenario. Only he and the coaching staff know why. But as i mentioned earlier I think he will see out the season and then move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 23 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Pucci is on a two-season deal, so he has another season with us. IMO he is already our Bogarde. He appears to be doing everything required of his contract, because he makes the bench occasionally. Provided he keeps to the conditions of the contract he's entitled to see the two seasons through - precisely the same as Bogarde was at Chelsea. It's an unfortunate situation. It might be the case that if we terminate we have to pay out part of contract which may see us exceed the cap for a designated player. Where as if we pay out at start of next year we won't exceed the cap (although that may result in him still being a DP for next season). However, with the addition of a second DP spot next season (IIRC) we may be comfortable with only actually using one DP spot next year. I do note, this is all conjecture on my behalf. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannon Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 some kind of closure saying that they fucked up or something would be nice all those resources and the bloke dosnt even get a half? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Bannon said: some kind of closure saying that they fucked up or something would be nice all those resources and the bloke dosnt even get a half? My guess (and hope) is closure will come when he is no longer a Melbourne City player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannon Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, n i k o said: My guess (and hope) is closure will come when he is no longer a Melbourne City player. fuck say something now at least, inb4 just a 2 sentence usual thanks for service blah blah on the website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 20 minutes ago, Bannon said: fuck say something now at least, inb4 just a 2 sentence usual thanks for service blah blah on the website Thanks for the service and pasta? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 24, 2022 Report Share Posted March 24, 2022 We may not be able to terminate him if he is doing a Bogarde. Does anyone know precisely the terms that apply to a "designated player," and by that I mean what restrictions, if any, APL puts around such a player? I'm assuming in this comment that APL has in some way approved of the signing in the first place, and might well have adopted the stance "You signed him, he is fulfilling his contract, he doesn't want to go, so stiff shit Melbourne City you have to keep paying him." It is a strange situation, but it hasn't got to the point of ostracising the guy as Melbourne Victory did with Jonathan Bru, or indeed what we did with Bruno. I think if you look around you'll see that quite a few clubs have this kind of player on their books. Jenkinson with Forest is an example - being paid a fortune but told that he's not in the future plans for the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 Media should be asking PK the hard questions on this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 8 hours ago, Torn Asunder said: Media should be asking PK the hard questions on this Honestly I think the answer would be, "we thought he would be good, we thought he would fit, but really he's shit" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 25, 2022 Report Share Posted March 25, 2022 8 hours ago, Torn Asunder said: Media should be asking PK the hard questions on this We can't afford a roving microphone for press conferences, so even if they did we wouldn't be able to to hear them... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bellydrum Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Torn Asunder said: Media should be asking PK the hard questions on this I've heard it asked once or twice in the pressers I've seen, but they've never pushed further for a longer explanation. Closest thing to an answer from PK was Quote Manuel Pucciarelli was also absent from the City squad that faced the Bulls with what Kisnorbo confirmed was a “coach’s decision” but could feature in a game carrying significant stakes for both sides. - https://jdlmedia.news/2022/03/11/western-united-and-melbourne-city-prepare-for-colossal-derby-clash/ Edited March 26, 2022 by bellydrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 That's a non-answer. Of course selection is a "coach's decision" and of course Pucci could feature in another match (but never does). A journalist with any balls at all would have not have been satisfied with that answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted March 26, 2022 Report Share Posted March 26, 2022 1 hour ago, jw1739 said: That's a non-answer. Of course selection is a "coach's decision" and of course Pucci could feature in another match (but never does). A journalist with any balls at all would have not have been satisfied with that answer. “I take full responsibility for his signing, he was one the first players I recruited myself since taking over. It didn’t work out on training hence he never played. I apologise to the club, fans and APL who ultimately gave me the opportunity to sign a designated player” - said no coach ever. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 Was in the players box on Wednesday. He absolutely loved Leckies second goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 IMO this guy has taken over from Marcel Meeuwis as our "strangest signing ever." Meeuwis (who had played in the Bundesliga) was only on a three-month contract, but Pucci is here for two seasons. We've had a few of them, haven't we? Robi Koren, Maycon, O'Halloran... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted April 8, 2022 Report Share Posted April 8, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, jw1739 said: IMO this guy has taken over from Marcel Meeuwis as our "strangest signing ever." Meeuwis (who had played in the Bundesliga) was only on a three-month contract, but Pucci is here for two seasons. We've had a few of them, haven't we? Robi Koren, Maycon, O'Halloran... Add Cabrera, Budzinkski Hughes, Locals, Grella, Georgievki That Scottish lad from Celtic that got injured. If we looked hard enough we could get 11. Edited April 8, 2022 by Jovan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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