fensaddler Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 Go on. Catch us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 Fabulous win. Well done lads. Now for Sunday and Brisbane - should be a cracker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 Yes, good win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icantthinkofacoolname Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 15 hours ago, haz said: 3-1 win. green line @haz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 Tilio is a funny humble fella in his interview. Definitely can see his futsal background in the ball control. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 30 minutes ago, icantthinkofacoolname said: Both of his goals have been off a Galloway assist Galloway was very good tonight! Deputising very nicely for Atkinson!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJV Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 Fantastic away win, especially at Perth. I honestly remember just writing off every Perth away game just 2 or so years ago. What a turnaround. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 8 minutes ago, TJV said: I forgot Perth have some fucking hacks on their books For a second I read this as "forgot Perth were playing" as there were patches in that second half where Perth barely touched it! We definitely showed the gulf in class and why we are 1st and they are struggling to make 6th... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJV Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, MHFC-FAN said: For a second I read this as "forgot Perth were playing" as there were patches in that second half where Perth barely touched it! We definitely showed the gulf in class and why we are 1st and they are struggling to make 6th... Big time. We were practically parked in their half for a solid half hour. Even when we took our foot off the gas Perth couldn't press us effectively, the boys stayed composed in possession and gave them nothing to work with, outside of Glover's brain fart. Really great to watch us pass our way around Perth. As @Shahanga said, champagne football, an absolute joy to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recyclosaurusrex Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 No love between Jamie and Perth is there. "He's not my mate" referencing Tony Sage lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 Does Tilio get an assist for the own goal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 Its coming home lads 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 Jmac's second was just about the best goal I have ever seen. Worthy of any stadium anywhere. Absolutely brilliant from Luna and Galloway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) What an away performance. Although if you didn't know, you would be forgiven for not knowing who was the home team. The last few rounds prior to this game I don't think we've been at our best but I haven't seen us move the ball with that precision and purpose for some time now. No one player can be given all the praise and the players can't be given all the credit, fantastic performance from the coaching staff as well for being able to work in unison. Have to say though well done to Jaime getting to the 100 goals. I read some comments about Berenguer which I don't completely agree with. Prior to his stints on the bench he was looking sharp however tonight he was a bit rusty. Reminded me of Atkinson when he came back into the starting eleven this season (arguably Atkinson had an even more turbulent starting game). I think it's great that we have the capability to start our Aussie players and have someone like Berenguer to come off the bench. And I don't think it matters that he's a visa. The key is we can fill the pitch with high quality players. Glover - 6 - didn't have to do a lot on the end, almost cost us a goal with his pass out from defence. Jamo - 8 - great performance especially being played in a strange role, floating between being a number 10 it seemed. Good - 8 - just solid and reliable. Week in week out. Really should give him a 9 every week but want to save it should be score as well. Griffiths - 8 - solid and reliable Galloway - 9 - dealt with a barrage of attacks and provided two assists O Niel - 8 - quality performance, probably still finding match fitness. Metcalfe - 8 - so reliable on the ball, can't remember too many times he turns out over Frenchy - 6 - looked rusty. He's a quality player, think he needs another start to find it. Should he get it is another thing. Noone - 6 - a not so positive 6 this week. I felt last week his performance had a more positive impact on the have than this week. A lot of attacking play was lost with his end product. Again, come to expect more from him based on what he can deliver. Tilio - 7 - were I to judge him as a young player starting for the first time I would rate him an 8. So much attacking prowess, created opportunities. Taking age and experience out he had opportunities to score, made a run into the six yard box and didn't shoot and also missed a completely open goal. That aside, very impressed with him. MacLaren - 9 - can we keep him forever Reis - 8 - solid Colakovski - 7 - made some strong running attacks at defenders. Luna - 8 - a welcome change for Berenguer. Garruccio - 7 - does a great job chasing down the ball later in the game against tired opposition. Not much end product but he plays an important role nonetheless. Edited May 5, 2021 by n i k o 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted May 5, 2021 Report Share Posted May 5, 2021 I've only seen the match highlights but the third goal was a thing of beauty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted May 6, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, n i k o said: Frenchy - 6 - looked rusty. He's a quality player, think he needs another start to find it. Should he get it is another thing. We have been saying this for two years. He is a waste of a visa spot. 4 goals and 6 assists across 2.5 seasons is horrible for a player who is meant to be our "playmaker". Edited May 6, 2021 by haz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 How can Berenguer be "rusty?" Football is his job. He's either training or playing and has been for the whole season that is at the three-quarters stage? He's in his third season with us so by now he knows what is expected of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 (edited) I'll defend Berenguer...again. He's a rhythm player. As soon as he goes out of the squad he takes a while to get going again. It's one of his biggest flaws. I still rate him as a player but this season should probably he his final one for us. Still has a part to play. On the match itself, a little shaky but we handled them comfortably in the end. Tilio so promising. Galloway excellent and Maclaren doing his usual thing. Perth need a rebuild, time to wipe the slate clean of the old blokes and build a proper team. They're not the team they used to be and when their goal went in I immediately thought 'of course', but then I looked at the ladder and remembered that they're a spent force. Third bottom? Ordinary defence with ordinary players like Aspro. So refreshing to follow a team that finally knows how to win. And to do it without Nabbout was pleasing. Edited May 6, 2021 by Harrison 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 I think talk of a big $ visa midfielder for next season is misguided. Metcalfe should be the midfield priority and fill the available positions after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Torn Asunder Posted May 6, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 You cannot overstate how big this win was for us. Perth has been the place of many nightmares for City. Not only did we achieve a come from behind win, for the most part we bossed them. And for the 1st time ever, we actually had a plan to counter Castro, who normally kills us. We seem even more assured when Des is running the show .... just saying Galloway was very good tonight .... I thought we'd really miss Nathaniel , but it looks like Galloway do the job, and also create ... Not getting ahead of myself, but if we do win the plate, I'm gonna go to whatever celebration the club runs and get absolutely maggot'd ... and if i meet anyone from this forum at said event, I'm buying shots! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 hour ago, haz said: We have been saying this for two years. He is a waste of a visa spot. 4 goals and 6 assists across 2.5 seasons is horrible for a player who is meant to be our "playmaker". 1 hour ago, jw1739 said: How can Berenguer be "rusty?" Football is his job. He's either training or playing and has been for the whole season that is at the three-quarters stage? He's in his third season with us so by now he knows what is expected of him. 1 hour ago, Harrison said: I'll defend Berenguer...again. He's a rhythm player. As soon as he goes out of the squad he takes a while to get going again. It's one of his biggest flaws. I still rate him as a player but this season should probably he his final one for us. Still has a part to play. On the match itself, a little shaky but we handled them comfortably in the end. Tilio so promising. Galloway excellent and Maclaren doing his usual thing. Perth need a rebuild, time to wipe the slate clean of the old blokes and build a proper team. They're not the team they used to be and when their goal went in I immediately thought 'of course', but then I looked at the ladder and remembered that they're a spent force. Third bottom? Ordinary defence with ordinary players like Aspro. So refreshing to follow a team that finally knows how to win. And to do it without Nabbout was pleasing. As Harrison mentioned Berenguer had that fluctuation in his performances. The word rusty probably isn't the right one but it meant to explain that he hasn't had consistent game time that affects his performances a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 11 minutes ago, n i k o said: As Harrison mentioned Berenguer had that fluctuation in his performances. The word rusty probably isn't the right one but it meant to explain that he hasn't had consistent game time that affects his performances a bit. I'll try and make this my last comment on Florin. I honestly think we give him the benefit of the doubt time after time - multiple chances on proving himself. For three seasons people have done that, and IMO he just hasn't shown enough. Full stop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, jw1739 said: I'll try and make this my last comment on Florin. I honestly think we give him the benefit of the doubt time after time - multiple chances on proving himself. For three seasons people have done that, and IMO he just hasn't shown enough. Full stop. Do you acknowledge that when he's been in the team consistently that he's been a good player? Agree that he's frustrating and all the rest, but for me he's been a good player when he's got into a rhythm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 11 minutes ago, n i k o said: As Harrison mentioned Berenguer had that fluctuation in his performances. The word rusty probably isn't the right one but it meant to explain that he hasn't had consistent game time that affects his performances a bit. So essentially he is a bloke who can't see out a full game, can't be rested for a game during a congested period for fear of him losing form and also a player who goes missing in big/tough games. Whilst I agree he definitely is a capable player, i feel his negatives definitely outweigh his positives, especially being a visa player. PS, the above isn't directed at you was just easiest to reply to the last post in thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 19 minutes ago, jw1739 said: I'll try and make this my last comment on Florin. I honestly think we give him the benefit of the doubt time after time - multiple chances on proving himself. For three seasons people have done that, and IMO he just hasn't shown enough. Full stop. I’ve heard Florin pays people on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr MO said: I’ve heard Florin pays people on this forum. I've told him that he needs to up his payment, especially when he's out of form. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 The flo dillemma for myself keeps coming back to the same question: Could've we found some local talent who is equal (or close to) able to give the output that he is giving us? And I keep coming back to the same answer: Yes The majority of the time he has been with us he has been injured, and whilst he has had some bright spots he has never proven to be consistent enough to be labelled a marquee, and earn the wages he currently is. Either we have placed too high of expectations on him, or he is not as good as we thought he would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 22 minutes ago, kingofhearts said: The flo dillemma for myself keeps coming back to the same question: Could've we found some local talent who is equal (or close to) able to give the output that he is giving us? And I keep coming back to the same answer: Yes The majority of the time he has been with us he has been injured, and whilst he has had some bright spots he has never proven to be consistent enough to be labelled a marquee, and earn the wages he currently is. Either we have placed too high of expectations on him, or he is not as good as we thought he would be. Attacking midfielders out of lower leagues aren’t just going to come here boss the league, the clubs just has this wrong. In our system it’s a very crafty position where you are also expected to do your defensive duties. Luna isn’t as technical but contributes on different parts just better either in the press or directness and passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 7 hours ago, haz said: We have been saying this for two years. He is a waste of a visa spot. 4 goals and 6 assists across 2.5 seasons is horrible for a player who is meant to be our "playmaker". 6 hours ago, jw1739 said: How can Berenguer be "rusty?" Football is his job. He's either training or playing and has been for the whole season that is at the three-quarters stage? He's in his third season with us so by now he knows what is expected of him. It's more about match flow. He plays well when given game time. I can tell you from experience, I've been involved in sport a long time. Some athletes can just play, almost irrespective of when they've last competed or trained. Other athletes miss a training session or miss a competitive match and be off their game or need a run of games to be at their peak. You cannot relate working at a desk to competing in sport. But i agree, I wouldn't keep him past this season. I think we can do better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr MO said: Attacking midfielders out of lower leagues aren’t just going to come here boss the league, the clubs just has this wrong. In our system it’s a very crafty position where you are also expected to do your defensive duties. Luna isn’t as technical but contributes on different parts just better either in the press or directness and passing. Personally I don’t think the club ever thought Berenguer was going to boss the league. Frankly I see “the problem” as you expecting the club to outlay a level of cash that they had no intention of spending. That situation is not the fault of Florin Berenguer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, Shahanga said: Personally I don’t think the club ever thought Berenguer was going to boss the league. Frankly I see “the problem” as you expecting the club to outlay a level of cash that they had no intention of spending. That situation is not the fault of Florin Berenguer. Wasn’t he announced and compared to Ninkovic? If you don’t think that why over pay him as marquee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 2 minutes ago, Mr MO said: Wasn’t he announced and compared to Ninkovic? If you don’t think that why over pay him as marquee? Ninkovic. Not that I recall. marquee. Thought you’d mention that. Surely you know the story behind that. He wasn’t a genuine marquee that was an artifact of how his contract was structured. I think he’s largely been pretty good this year and is one of many reasons why we are league leaders. I agree with @n i k o though. Unless he can show he’s still a genuine starter for next season I wouldn’t re-sign him as he needs to play every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 For me Metcalfe is beginning to outshine him. So to the question whether the locals can match him - yes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 44 minutes ago, NewConvert said: For me Metcalfe is beginning to outshine him. So to the question whether the locals can match him - yes. same story with our wingers, perhaps we can spend some genuine money on a real number 10 for next season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 16 minutes ago, belaguttman said: same story with our wingers, perhaps we can spend some genuine money on a real number 10 for next season? The flip side is that if our youth academy is now scouting well locally and training players to a new level, then getting visa players of superior quality means that the club will have to go to a new level of wages/packages. It could also mean that we have fewer visa players and more local content. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 17 minutes ago, NewConvert said: The flip side is that if our youth academy is now scouting well locally and training players to a new level, then getting visa players of superior quality means that the club will have to go to a new level of wages/packages. It could also mean that we have fewer visa players and more local content. If this season can be repeated regularly the club will, and I think justifiably, say that a strategy of scouting the best local young talent and developing them though the best academy in Australia will give them local success without having to import expensive marquee and visa players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted May 6, 2021 Report Share Posted May 6, 2021 25 minutes ago, NewConvert said: The flip side is that if our youth academy is now scouting well locally and training players to a new level, then getting visa players of superior quality means that the club will have to go to a new level of wages/packages. It could also mean that we have fewer visa players and more local content. I'd prefer fewer visas of better quality, it lifts the whole team. Imagine David Villa playing in this team, during his all too brief appearance most of his rune just not seen by our players then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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