haz Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 25 minutes ago, Mr MO said: What's the latest? I haven't read up on lately but did hear that this 777 is threatening to sue Victory for mismanagement and are formally complaining to the APL for misleading conduct for directing them to invest in that club. Poor PE Associates who earn hundreds of thousands per year couldn't put effort into their due diligence.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 9 minutes ago, haz said: Poor PE Associates who earn hundreds of thousands per year couldn't put effort into their due diligence.... Yes I'm sure the APL would have been very welcoming, tranparent but more importantly upfront and honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughJass Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 11 hours ago, Mr MO said: What's the latest? I haven't read up on lately but did hear that this 777 is threatening to sue Victory for mismanagement and are formally complaining to the APL for misleading conduct for directing them to invest in that club. Where did you read/hear this? I haven't seen anything about that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 Question is. How long until Popovic jumps off the sinking ship before the end of the season? Reckon he will be trying to tee something up overseas pronto... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 Hang on folks, this is the CFG thread. There's a thread for our intra-city friends under "Australian Football." Please use it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted January 2 Report Share Posted January 2 6 hours ago, HughJass said: Where did you read/hear this? I haven't seen anything about that On Twitter mostly hear say so not sure what is true. I must say the legal action mentioned referred to “shareholders” so not even clear if this was in fact 777. Let’s not talk about them anymore overhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citypool Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 I must say as shit as city and the a league is run the actual games are entertaining Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 1 hour ago, citypool said: I must say as shit as city and the a league is run the actual games are entertaining Seriously, this is the real sadness. We play a good standard of football, and our crowds are not bad. IMO our current squad could hold its own in EFL League 1. As far as the League is concerned we've just gone from bad with FA to worse with APL. And for CFG we deserve a lot better than we're getting - at the very least we should be playing a couple of other CFG clubs per season. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuggetsMcGreggor Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 I know this isn’t cfg but I didn’t know where else to put it. Is there anyone with a herald Sun sub that can post this article: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/aami-park-event-staff-reveal-extremely-poor-security-measures-amid-pitch-invasion/news-story/0ee5b067bed7592943dcf8c3b65f18f6?amp&nk=25927f8ac744264a8e5270f5a3198ff7-1672737023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 3 Report Share Posted January 3 Summary here: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11591727/Security-staff-tried-stop-League-pitch-invasion-arent-trained-deal-hooligans.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citypool Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 I think if cfg wanted to overtake victory off the pitch you don't get a better chance then now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted January 6 Report Share Posted January 6 1 hour ago, citypool said: I think if cfg wanted to overtake victory off the pitch you don't get a better chance then now How so? Are we turning Gosch’s Paddock into an open dog park? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 Crazy to think that the same people who are crying poor by saying that the Sydney GF deal is to save the league financially also openly stated they’ve made an offer to Ronaldo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted January 7 Report Share Posted January 7 3 hours ago, Mr MO said: Crazy to think that the same people who are crying poor by saying that the Sydney GF deal is to save the league financially also openly stated they’ve made an offer to Ronaldo. It's complete bullshit. Personally I felt this was CFGs opportunity to buy out the competition and fulfil their dream of having an entire leauge of teams all called city wearing the same kits. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HughJass Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 I believe myrepublic is the training top/coach sponsor? https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/networking/myrepublic-exits-australia-market-to-refocus-on-profitability/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 12 Report Share Posted January 12 1 hour ago, HughJass said: I believe myrepublic is the training top/coach sponsor? https://www.zdnet.com/home-and-office/networking/myrepublic-exits-australia-market-to-refocus-on-profitability/ It's listed as a "Premium Partner" of the club here: https://melbournecityfc.com.au/about/our-partners Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jan/31/once-manchester-citys-sibling-nyc-fc-is-now-more-like-a-distant-cousin Good read here on NYCFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Tommykins said: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/jan/31/once-manchester-citys-sibling-nyc-fc-is-now-more-like-a-distant-cousin Good read here on NYCFC. Yeah. Makes you wonder what the motivation is doesn't it? We're pretty much the same of course. Perhaps there is close contact between Melbourne and Manchester behind the scenes, but as members we don't see much of it. The "Lampard Rule" means we're unlikely to see any players come to play for us. On the coaching side it could be argued that Mombaerts was a CFG coach, but it does surprise me that there isn't a coach somewhere in the CFG stable who could have come to replace PK. I guess that if NYCFC are slipping down the pecking order then we're probably bottom. Edited January 31 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Greg O’Rourke will be replaced by an ex CFG employee. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughJass Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 Back to Red & White ole ole 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 Not sure what the unravelling implications of this are, but I suspect they may not be all good. Suppose it got to the point where CFG decided or was forced to sell our club, we have to ask what sort of prospect we are for a potential buyer, and who there is out there who would buy us? Some of the potential outcomes include the club folding, or us being bought by someone even worse, the Saudis, for example. So whilst we can dream of a buyer who returns us to our roots and our traditional colours, we could also be looking at oblivion, even greater pariah status than we already have, or yet another rebrand. Or even years of stagnation whilst CFG fights this and takes its eye off the ball, or gets heavily sanctioned but holds onto us... The potential bad outcomes are considerably more numerous than the positive ones right now. And for the record, I loathe CFG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 I guess the other thing to note is that I doubt that any of the other clubs or the Australian football establishment will do anything to rescue our club. The level of jealousy and hatred out there is pretty obvious. And we're not in Sydney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 1 hour ago, fensaddler said: Not sure what the unravelling implications of this are, but I suspect they may not be all good. Suppose it got to the point where CFG decided or was forced to sell our club, we have to ask what sort of prospect we are for a potential buyer, and who there is out there who would buy us? Some of the potential outcomes include the club folding, or us being bought by someone even worse, the Saudis, for example. So whilst we can dream of a buyer who returns us to our roots and our traditional colours, we could also be looking at oblivion, even greater pariah status than we already have, or yet another rebrand. Or even years of stagnation whilst CFG fights this and takes its eye off the ball, or gets heavily sanctioned but holds onto us... The potential bad outcomes are considerably more numerous than the positive ones right now. And for the record, I loathe CFG. This is obviously absolute worse case scenario. I'm hoping they just strip them of their points and fines/sanctions or maybe take silverware off of them. Having to sell off sister clubs seems a tad excessive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 I can see some rough water ahead, perhaps, but I can't see it sinking our ship. The majority owner of CFG is an arm of the Abu Dhabi Emirate royal family, which is obscenely wealthy, and anything the Premier League does in the way of fines would involve merely petty cash. What might hurt is a loss of face if Manchester City were ejected from the Premier League, and I'd say there's a very small risk that Mansour would spit the dummy and throw his toys out of the bathtub. But I can't see that happening TBH - it would be an even greater loss of face. I don't see selling us off to be a significant risk or a significant problem. What's more important, IMO, is for Football Australia and APL to get their acts together to stop making stupid decisions here at home, and to focus on growing the game as far as they can in Australia and making a decent level of professional football sustainable here. Then there would always be people ready to invest in the game here and keep it going when there's a headwind now and then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 If I recall, this would make CFG repeat offenders concerning breaches of the financial regulations, expect more severe penalties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughJass Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 11 minutes ago, belaguttman said: If I recall, this would make CFG repeat offenders concerning breaches of the financial regulations, expect more severe penalties Different organisation charging them and pretty sure they got off the previous charges but still had to pay a fine lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 40 minutes ago, HughJass said: Different organisation charging them and pretty sure they got off the previous charges but still had to pay a fine lol IIRC it was UEFA, who in 2020 threw them out of the Champions League and also fined them heavily. However they appealed to the Switzerland-based Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) who allowed the Manchester City to continue participation in the Champions League and reduced the fine from Euro30m to Euro10m CFG are always sailing very close to the wind it seems. However, this time they may be in trouble. I've just read that the latest EPL action cannot be appealed to the CAS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 Without knowing any details obviously, i assume CFG are very good at placing their people on posts where key decisions are made. If they don't get the decision they want, then they'll assess the cost viability to appeal and if it is beneficial to them, they'll go higher till they get the decision they want. How it works with the new Newcastle owners in play now, not sure. Maybe they'll get their peeps in too which might make CFG's reign come to an end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka1 Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 Feels nice knowing CFG can pay fines with chump change, whilst simultaneously watching the Tards drown in debt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 Are people that naive thinking that Man City is the only club operating that way? Points being deducted in previous seasons is very unlikely, imagine the snowball effect on European qualifications, relegations and missed revenue. Every team will come out of the wood work to claim something. 41 minutes ago, Baka1 said: Feels nice knowing CFG can pay fines with chump change, whilst simultaneously watching the Tards drown in debt. On that though, how are they allowed to sign new players. They should be under conversatorship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughJass Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 3 minutes ago, Mr MO said: On that though, how are they allowed to sign new players. They should be under conversatorship. 777 were approved to invest in them supposedly cleared the debt but see what the future holds since the terms and conditions are favourable to 777 not so much for victory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 20 minutes ago, Mr MO said: Are people that naive thinking that Man City is the only club operating that way? Points being deducted in previous seasons is very unlikely, imagine the snowball effect on European qualifications, relegations and missed revenue. Every team will come out of the wood work to claim something. The only effective way of punishing Manchester City would be to relegate them to League 2. Expel them from the EPL and they would then have to apply to the English Football League for membership. Hard perhaps, but when dealing with entities such as CFG you have to be hard to be effective. For different reasons Glasgow Rangers were expelled from the Scottish Premier League in 2012, and had to apply for membership of the Scottish Football League and subsequently entered its Third Division for the 2012-13 season. Of course they are back in the SPL now. But it was 2021 before Rangers won another Premiership. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 16 minutes ago, jw1739 said: The only effective way of punishing Manchester City would be to relegate them to League 2. Expel them from the EPL and they would then have to apply to the English Football League for membership. Hard perhaps, but when dealing with entities such as CFG you have to be hard to be effective. For different reasons Glasgow Rangers were expelled from the Scottish Premier League in 2012, and had to apply for membership of the Scottish Football League and subsequently entered its Third Division for the 2012-13 season. Of course they are back in the SPL now. But it was 2021 before Rangers won another Premiership. That may well be what should happen if they are found guilty, but I suspect that the EPL would see that as also punishing the EPL (financially) so they won't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 2 hours ago, belaguttman said: That may well be what should happen if they are found guilty, but I suspect that the EPL would see that as also punishing the EPL (financially) so they won't do it. @belaguttmanIn what way would the EPL be punishing itself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 1 hour ago, jw1739 said: @belaguttmanIn what way would the EPL be punishing itself? Man City has many of the 'stars that attract many to the EPL, both in person and on TV; these are significant sources of revenue and prestige for the EPL. Man City plays attractive football that enhances the prestige and visibility of the EPL, and they are one of the reasons that the EPL is the most viewed football competition with the most revenue. The difficulty for the EPL, at least in the short-term, is that anything that affects Man City will also impact the competition and the prestige and visibility of the competition. Personally, if they are guilty, I'd treat them like Rangers, but this is why I don't work in the corporate sector; I'm always accused of being an idealist and 'unrealistic'😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 8 hours ago, jw1739 said: I can see some rough water ahead, perhaps, but I can't see it sinking our ship. The majority owner of CFG is an arm of the Abu Dhabi Emirate royal family, which is obscenely wealthy, and anything the Premier League does in the way of fines would involve merely petty cash. What might hurt is a loss of face if Manchester City were ejected from the Premier League, and I'd say there's a very small risk that Mansour would spit the dummy and throw his toys out of the bathtub. But I can't see that happening TBH - it would be an even greater loss of face. I don't see selling us off to be a significant risk or a significant problem. What's more important, IMO, is for Football Australia and APL to get their acts together to stop making stupid decisions here at home, and to focus on growing the game as far as they can in Australia and making a decent level of professional football sustainable here. Then there would always be people ready to invest in the game here and keep it going when there's a headwind now and then. CFG are in this to polish their reputation, or rather that of Abu Dhabi. If being in football has the opposite effect (ie. tarnishes their reputation) then they may rethink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 55 minutes ago, fensaddler said: CFG are in this to polish their reputation, or rather that of Abu Dhabi. If being in football has the opposite effect (ie. tarnishes their reputation) then they may rethink. I am sure that CFG will have the funds and influence to sway the EPL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 I'm no CFG apologist, but definitely a conspiracy lover. If Manchester City are stripped of their last 6 titles Liverpool and Man Utd will be awarded 3 each. Very interesting just saying. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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