Transfer Talk, Rumours and Speculation

[Tesla]

Why not?  He wasn't marquee at victory was he? 

But was probably on marquee wages

#ffa #salarycap

[mus-28]

Same reason Trent Rixon never bothered with the A-League, guy was earning more than a majority of A-League players in his day job as well as getting paid to play in the VPL. 

[Shahanga]

Why not?  He wasn't marquee at victory was he? 

he was on one of those dodgy loan deals - you know the ones that you paid everything up front on, that were allowed until we wanted to sign Lampard (incidentally am I the only finding it ironic that the FFA are supposedly concerned that top players aren't coming here, with Frankie specifically named as an example?).

i think Tesla's hunch makes the most sense. Anyway it's still all speculation.

[Jovan]

Why not?  He wasn't marquee at victory was he? 

I think he was on loan from an Italian club. 

Can't see the logic in his signing with our existing players but having said that he is super player and be rapt if he does sign.

 

[bellydrum]

I think signing Troisi depends on what is going on with Mooy. 

If we say this article is true, then Mooy is either gone or is Aus Marquee. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/melbourne-city-sign-fulhams-aaron-hughes-but-aaron-mooy-keen-for-europe-move/story-fni2wcjl-1227440649219 .

If Mooy is gone (seems unlikely atm imo), then there isn't an obvious reason why Troisi would pick WSW over us.

If Mooy is staying and now Marquee, then you'd think we are offering Troisi somewhere around Mooy's old wage, which WSW can beat after letting go of like 3/4 of their squad and no Aus Marquee yet afaik. 

Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but the second scenario sounds the most likely. I think our facilities and global connections are keeping us in the running and Troisi, like Zullo, probably wants a 1 year deal and to go back to Europe after a successful season here.

 

Edited August 4, 2015 by bellydrum

[jw1739]

AFAIK (transfermarkt) Troisi is actually a Juventus player and his last gig was on loan to Wagarem in the Belgian Jupiter League. So, unfortunately, his wages will now be determined under the "Lampard Rule" (many, many thanks FFA)  so we won't have any leeway in that respect. 

[Nate]

Troisi going to the Wanderers makes more sense but hey, if he comes here then great! 

Really is about as good as Australian players get in this league

[Luke]

I think signing Troisi depends on what is going on with Mooy. 

If we say this article is true, then Mooy is either gone or is Aus Marquee. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/melbourne-city-sign-fulhams-aaron-hughes-but-aaron-mooy-keen-for-europe-move/story-fni2wcjl-1227440649219 .

If Mooy is gone (seems unlikely atm imo), then there isn't an obvious reason why Troisi would pick WSW over us.

If Mooy is staying and now Marquee, then you'd think we are offering Troisi somewhere around Mooy's old wage, which WSW can beat after letting go of like 3/4 of their squad and no Aus Marquee yet afaik. 

Maybe I'm being too optimistic, but the second scenario sounds the most likely. I think our facilities and global connections are keeping us in the running and Troisi, like Zullo, probably wants a 1 year deal and to go back to Europe after a successful season here.

 

That really narrows it down... 

[bt50]

I tend to think the opposite. Mooy is staying but doesn't want to recommit for next season so we are offering Troisi the marquee spot for one season

[Tesla]

AFAIK (transfermarkt) Troisi is actually a Juventus player and his last gig was on loan to Wagarem in the Belgian Jupiter League. So, unfortunately, his wages will now be determined under the "Lampard Rule" (many, many thanks FFA)  so we won't have any leeway in that respect. 

Yeah, can't see him being anything but marquee. Even if he was released by Juventus to come here, he'd probably want to keep earning good money.

[n i k o]

Looking forward to signing a retired keeper to play for us. Is that moving up from signing an injured player? 

Edited August 4, 2015 by n i k o

[strider]

                       Velaphi

Franjic   Kisnorbo   Chapman   Zullo

                     Fartaluu

                 Koren   Mooy

        Novillo   Gameiro   Troisi

 

Win the league

Edited August 4, 2015 by strider

[rass]

Mooy is undoubtedly a gun, no question... and the two goals were brilliant.

But cmon, his touch for alot of the match was as rusty as many of the others out there.  Amongst the blinded, surely I wasn't the only one here to see that. 

To me that's normal and despite how shit we played, we are into the next round. 

Of course it will be inexcusable if that sort of shit is still happening by round 1, injuries or whatever other reason.

 

[perthheart]

                       Velaphi

Franjic   Kisnorbo   Chapman   Zullo

                     Fartaluu

                 Koren   Mooy

        Novillo   Gameiro   Troisi

 

Win the league

*finish third or fourth and get dumped out in the semi's. 

[Nate]

I will be so livid if we actually waste a Visa spot on a goalkeeper, let alone one who is well and truly past it.

[jw1739]

What's the alternative you are proposing to a decent visa GK? Tando is hardly the most reliable 'keeper we could have, and I haven't yet seen a suggestion on here for a local alternative that meets with any real support.

GKs can go on a lot longer than outfield players. I take it you also condemn the signing of Hughes as another waste of a visa spot? Mind you, I wouldn't disagree with you on the latter...

[n i k o]

Yes I condemn the Hughes signing, we now have two old slow centre backs instead of one. Regarding the keeper position it was probably the position of least concern last season. Tando did very well. Victory won everything with fucking Coe. Tando is more than adequate. But we'll prob waste the visa spot in a keeper that has already retired. Sounds like a JVS thing to do. 

[Nate]

What's the alternative you are proposing to a decent visa GK? Tando is hardly the most reliable 'keeper we could have, and I haven't yet seen a suggestion on here for a local alternative that meets with any real support.

GKs can go on a lot longer than outfield players. I take it you also condemn the signing of Hughes as another waste of a visa spot? Mind you, I wouldn't disagree with you on the latter...

Tando is adequate, last season proved that.

And I actually don't mind the Hughes signing but we could very well get caught out if we play him alongside Kisnorbo against the quicker sides, but that's beside the point.

[Deluka]

An A-League club is reportedly chasing the signature of Kevin Foley. Could this be us? From the Republic of Ireland, so Duff could have put in a good word?

[Info@VW]

Perth

[Murfy1]

JVS said post-match that 2 players will be signed before the next FFA Cup match, and the next FFA Cup match is less than 4 weeks away. So 2 new signings should be announced before the end of the month.

 

Also he said Franjic, Koren and Marino will start full training next week. Furthermore with Gameiro now training with the ball he shouldn't be too far off.

 

As is normally the case with A-League sides, if Melbourne City can get most of its playing list on the pitch then there should be a real upturn in results and performances. 

 

Very disappointing though that the team we will see for the A-League campaign is far from being fully assembled at this stage.

[mulhollanddrive]

Ideally I'd like to see:

(GK)

Franjic Kisnorbo Chapman Zullo

Paartalu Koren Mooy

(International RW) (Marquee ST) Novillo

Bench - Velaphi, Hughes, Melling, Williams, Gamiero

I've said our squad has looked good probably 3 of the past 4 seasons, so I don't think talent has been the sole issue.

[Shahanga]

I wouldn't agree with us having a good squad last year. Some good players yes, but starting the season with no left back and the worst starting goalkeeper and worst starting centre back in the league our squad had massive problems.

[Jimmy]

I wouldn't agree with us having a good squad last year. Some good players yes, but starting the season with no left back and the worst starting goalkeeper and worst starting centre back in the league our squad had massive problems.

People will be saying more or less the exact same things at the end of this season. Let's not forget that we went into last season as clear favorites with all the bookmakers. 

Squads have been 80% turned over every season but yet we've always been shit. Look at the common denominators.

[Cityslicker09]

Any more news on the aussie marque status?
Is it worth having a go at luring Troisi back to Melbourne but obviously this time to play for better Melbourne side.  with our facilities and connections abroad he may find it appealing to come play here could slot in nicely for us.

Seems interesting at this stage that neither us or the tards have an aussie marque yet.

Mooy could easily fill the spot just wondering if we are chasing someone else. Time will tell. No doubt our facilities and ties overseas has kept Mooy with us and maybe that is why he is staying one more season, More game time professional environement.

[pattyd89]

Any more news on the aussie marque status?
Is it worth having a go at luring Troisi back to Melbourne but obviously this time to play for better Melbourne side.  with our facilities and connections abroad he may find it appealing to come play here could slot in nicely for us.

Seems interesting at this stage that neither us or the tards have an aussie marque yet.

Mooy could easily fill the spot just wondering if we are chasing someone else. Time will tell. No doubt our facilities and ties overseas has kept Mooy with us and maybe that is why he is staying one more season, More game time professional environement.

I'm not sure if Troisi would come. Saw him on Instagram in his Victory suit and tie at the grand final celebrating with the players. I don't think he would jump ship.

[Cityslicker09]

I'm not sure if Troisi would come. Saw him on Instagram in his Victory suit and tie at the grand final celebrating with the players. I don't think he would jump ship.

Hard to say thou, For the right price and for the exposure to our overseas ties he may find it a career benefit to come here.

[Ruckoo]

He played there for how long? If he hasn't got that many options and we are willing to pay he will come.

[rayv36]

Hard to say thou, For the right price and for the exposure to our overseas ties he may find it a career benefit to come here.

Troisi was in town to watch the City v Real Madrid game, he went with George Calombaris so i would say he is going to Victory.

[Kinnibari]

People will be saying more or less the exact same things at the end of this season. Let's not forget that we went into last season as clear favorites with all the bookmakers. 

Squads have been 80% turned over every season but yet we've always been shit. Look at the common denominators.

Yeah the bookmakers said we were favourites and everyone else laughed at them.

[Jimmy]

Yeah the bookmakers said we were favourites and everyone else laughed at them.

not really.

[marn11]

not really.

Yes, really. 

Go to the nearest to the pin thread and see how many of us had City in the top 4 last preseason. To save you the trouble, the answer is not many.

The only reason the bookies had us as favourites was because of Villa and the false belief that CFG was going to turn us into a contender straight away.

[jw1739]

Two players to be signed/announced sometime before the Round of 16? I'm going to suggest one is El Tuna. If the other is to be Thomas Sorensen, he set out on his ride across America on 23rd June for 52 days, so by my reckoning he's got about 8 days to go - meaning he's still a possible.

[kingofhearts]

 

Yes, really. 

Go to the nearest to the pin thread and see how many of us had City in the top 4 last preseason. To save you the trouble, the answer is not many.

The only reason the bookies had us as favourites was because of Villa and the false belief that CFG was going to turn us into a contender straight away.

Pretty much this.

Anyone who had watched heart/city previously realised it was going to take more then 1 or 2 players to fix this trainreck lol

[Shahanga]

People will be saying more or less the exact same things at the end of this season. Let's not forget that we went into last season as clear favorites with all the bookmakers. 

Squads have been 80% turned over every season but yet we've always been shit. Look at the common denominators.

no, I was saying that before last season even started and I was far from the only one. In fact some of the legitimate criticisms of JVS are the failure to even trial a left back and the continued selection of Redmayne despite no evidence to suggest he was A League standard (we did sign a centre back, but he was ill, so that at least was excusable). The odds on us offered by the bookies were a joke and we all knew it.

this season the squad looks much better, with the sole substantial area of concern being the lack of a 15 goal striker. Again this isn't an excuse, a normal club & gaffer would make signing a top striker their priority.

I guess what I was really pointing out was that poor recruitment& selection were areas that Melbourne City (JVS is head of recruitment) performed poorly at last year. 

[Jimmy]

Bookmarking all this for future reference when people say they always thought the  2015/16 squad was shit.

[jw1739]

no, I was saying that before last season even started and I was far from the only one. In fact some of the legitimate criticisms of JVS are the failure to even trial a left back and the continued selection of Redmayne despite no evidence to suggest he was A League standard (we did sign a centre back, but he was ill, so that at least was excusable). The odds on us offered by the bookies were a joke and we all knew it.

this season the squad looks much better, with the sole substantial area of concern being the lack of a 15 goal striker. Again this isn't an excuse, a normal club & gaffer would make signing a top striker their priority.

I guess what I was really pointing out was that poor recruitment& selection were areas that Melbourne City (JVS is head of recruitment) performed poorly at last year. 

I'm going to wait until we've actually completed the squad before I make any predictions. At the moment I'd say we're nowhere near the benchmarks clubs of MV and Sydney, but we have so many gaps and injuries that predictions for the season are unwise.

I agree with Murphy that it's so disappointing to see us dragging our feet (again...) in getting the squad together especially a key position such as first-choice striker. JvS is so bloody cautious I don't think he could move quick enough to catch a bus.

[Embee]

 

Bookmarking all this for future reference when people say they always thought the  2015/16 squad was shit.

Sourced from 'Nearest to the Pin' for last season. (Number of people who predicted each finishing position)

Where was all this internal overrating of our squad again?

Edited August 6, 2015 by Embee

[bt50]

 

Sourced from 'Nearest to the Pin' for last season. (Number of people who predicted each finishing position)

Where was all this internal overrating of our squad again?

Red line for Jimmy thanks Hedaik

[Murfy1]

Two players to be signed/announced sometime before the Round of 16? I'm going to suggest one is El Tuna. If the other is to be Thomas Sorensen, he set out on his ride across America on 23rd June for 52 days, so by my reckoning he's got about 8 days to go - meaning he's still a possible.

I think you're right and those 2 players will be signed.

 

Also I reckon the plan is to secure Mooy for next season (and perhaps beyond) by re-signing him as our Australian marquee. And perhaps if Mooy were to leave for Europe the club would move to sign James Troisi as our Australian marquee (he'd need marquee wages), hence the media links.

 

For my money though a big enough European club won't put forward a serious concrete offer for Mooy this transfer window, with the assurances of ample game time he'd need to upgrade on his current situation (where he's an A-League star who has been regularly making Socceroos squads [when he's not injured]). I can't wait though for the European transfer window to slam shut in 4 weeks, guaranteeing that Mooy will play for the club next season.