jw1739 Posted January 31 Author Report Share Posted January 31 @bt50 Do you think we lost money over Sakhi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 (edited) Look at the bright side: the Visit0rs released a player at the start of his career in a fit of pique, now he's worth $2M for a half-season loan, no payment to the Visit0rs😂. Aziz gets a late-career payout, we are without him for half a season We are cashed up and have a visa spot. Edited January 31 by belaguttman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanty Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 8 minutes ago, belaguttman said: Aziz gets a late-career payout How? He is still on the same wages we are paying him. 8 minutes ago, belaguttman said: We are cashed up and have a visa spot. Salary Cap is the issue  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 31 Author Report Share Posted January 31 44 minutes ago, Zanty said: How? He is still on the same wages we are paying him. That's an assumption. We don't know that for sure and TBH I doubt very much that it is the case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 43 minutes ago, Zanty said: Salary Cap is the issue It seems from Petrillo's comments, that we aren't done yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 The financial logic is that CFG have set us up to deliver a return on investment at least enough to justify their investment in the club. So like any small but well run club we develop and sell on to generate revenue. Tilio, O'Neill, Bos etc are all proof of that strategy. The fee for loaning Aziz is bigger than the sale of each of those players, and yet we retain his registration. However tough for us as fans to lose him it's a no brainer in business terms, especially given the financial strife the ALM is in. And we may well have been stiffed over Sakhi as well. So no issues. Not happy to lose him, but understand. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.B. Cooper Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 So Sakhi going and Jeggo coming in frees up a visa spot. This is critical as getting a starting quality left back at the last minute in January will be a lot easier (or to put it another way, actually possible) if we have the whole world to choose from.  All in all it may not be a complete disaster, I guess the worst part of it is that it’s our Aziz, the club legend, who we have lost. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 6 hours ago, jw1739 said: @bt50 Do you think we lost money over Sakhi? Possibly on a transfer fee, but imo its more likely the option to male permanent was more about taking on the balance of a contract Auxerre wanted to offload. I cant see that he was so good wed have paid anything exorbitant as a transfer fee. A mutual termination renders the ongoing contract useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 31 Report Share Posted January 31 Anyone making negative remarks for cfg being financially motivated are slightly bewildering. In this world, which owner isn't motivated financially. The backwaters of aleague football included. Any owner would consider such an offer and not just cfg. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 31 Author Report Share Posted January 31 Tilio's back on loan for the remainder of the season! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 We still need a fullback replacement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka1 Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 Hopefully they fuck Natel off and sign a gun visa striker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 (edited) 57 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Tilio's back on loan for the remainder of the season! I take it we have the cap space of Sakhi and Behich to spend now. Does anybody know where their salaries sat, designated, marquee or normal squad allocation? Tilio is on European pay, Jeggo might be in the designated bracket. I’ll be surprised if we bring anyone of real quality due to lack cap space. Then I again I don’t know how the departing players were allocated and if we were maxed out already. From memory it’s 2 marquee and 2 designated players. Edited February 1 by Mr MO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 The quality that's really lacking on the pitch is on-field leadership. I don't expect that to be addressed with Tilio or Jeggo, so Sahki's visa replacement is a crucial signing for a better second half of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 56 minutes ago, Mr MO said: I take it we have the cap space of Sakhi and Behich to spend now. Does anybody know where their salaries sat, designated, marquee or normal squad allocation? Tilio is on European pay, Jeggo might be in the designated bracket. I’ll be surprised if we bring anyone of real quality due to lack cap space. Then I again I don’t know how the departing players were allocated and if we were maxed out already. From memory it’s 2 marquee and 2 designated players. Salary cap $2.6m, minimum spend allowed (stupid rule): $2.25m. There are some wild salary numbers quoted on various websites, but I doubt that we have very much cap space left. We don't know the details of the various loan deals (and IMO neither should we) and we don't know who are marquee or designated players. Neither do we know when the Tilio and Jeggo negotiations started, although the Tilio rumour is reasonably old now. Is Jeggo post-Sakhi or pre-Sakhi? I still think that the major problem is not the inherent quality of the players but transition speed with the ball. We play great football for 10 minutes and then go to sleep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityBoyz Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, Mr MO said: I take it we have the cap space of Sakhi and Behich to spend now. Does anybody know where their salaries sat, designated, marquee or normal squad allocation? Tilio is on European pay, Jeggo might be in the designated bracket. I’ll be surprised if we bring anyone of real quality due to lack cap space. Then I again I don’t know how the departing players were allocated and if we were maxed out already. From memory it’s 2 marquee and 2 designated players. 2 marquees would be Leckie and Maclaren Designated players were Arslan and Sakhi I believe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 39 minutes ago, belaguttman said: The quality that's really lacking on the pitch is on-field leadership. I don't expect that to be addressed with Tilio or Jeggo, so Sahki's visa replacement is a crucial signing for a better second half of the season. Whatever the weakness, I suspect we address that at the end of season and not now. Reasoning is this. Behich is at present planning to come back next season, so any cover for him is likely to be a loan. No loanee is going to walk into an established dressing room and be, or be expected to be, the leader in the room or on the pitch. They can provide experience and attitude, but they won't be captain or the informal leader of the group. And I doubt we've got cap space for a permanent signing of a really big fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 9 minutes ago, fensaddler said: Whatever the weakness, I suspect we address that at the end of season and not now. Reasoning is this. Behich is at present planning to come back next season, so any cover for him is likely to be a loan. No loanee is going to walk into an established dressing room and be, or be expected to be, the leader in the room or on the pitch. They can provide experience and attitude, but they won't be captain or the informal leader of the group. And I doubt we've got cap space for a permanent signing of a really big fish. Irrespective of any additional signing, Vidmar is faced with the leadership issue right now, with JMac out of form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 1 minute ago, jw1739 said: Irrespective of any additional signing, Vidmar is faced with the leadership issue right now, with JMac out of form. Indeed. But I suspect has to be addressed for the moment with the squad we already have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 1 Author Report Share Posted February 1 29 minutes ago, fensaddler said: Indeed. But I suspect has to be addressed for the moment with the squad we already have. Agreed. Of course if the rumours about JMac have any substance.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Hack Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 48 minutes ago, fensaddler said: Whatever the weakness, I suspect we address that at the end of season and not now. Reasoning is this. Behich is at present planning to come back next season, so any cover for him is likely to be a loan. No loanee is going to walk into an established dressing room and be, or be expected to be, the leader in the room or on the pitch. They can provide experience and attitude, but they won't be captain or the informal leader of the group. And I doubt we've got cap space for a permanent signing of a really big fish. I know of one Full Back who I suspect could do that. Ritchie De Laet. Still playing for Royal Antwerp at age 35 in Belgium. Unfortunately currently out with a muscle. He could also play CF if you wanted to. Would be great to see him back even on loan for half the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 1 Report Share Posted February 1 (edited) 3 hours ago, jw1739 said: Irrespective of any additional signing, Vidmar is faced with the leadership issue right now, with JMac out of form. Even an in form and fit JMAC is not captian material to bring the team to another level. It played out exactly how some predicted. This was a mistake unfortunately. Edited February 1 by Mr MO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 Petrillo had mentioned multiple signings to come in the Behich release. Was he only referring to Tilio and Jeggo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanty Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 Behich release statement came after the Jeggo signing, so Tilio and one more, could still happen. Window is shut but we have announced signings in the past after the window has shut like Maclaren & Natel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citypool Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 https://melbournecityfc.com.au/news/20240208-fernandez-signs?lid=ey40frvuohgn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 Petrillo was cooking. Excited to see this fella play. Chileans are never boring players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 8 Author Report Share Posted February 8 (edited) Missed most of last season with a meniscus injury. https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/vicente-fernandez/leistungsdaten/spieler/534263/plus/1?saison=2022 Edited February 8 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citypool Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 https://melbournecityfc.com.au/news/20240206-proulx-departs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 I read on a different forum that VDV actually left after a fallout with the club, he took big issue out of the fact that captain Jamieson wasn’t given any minutes in his final career game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 10 Author Report Share Posted March 10 1 hour ago, Mr MO said: I read on a different forum that VDV actually left after a fallout with the club, he took big issue out of the fact that captain Jamieson wasn’t given any minutes in his final career game. Didn't the same happen with Tommy Sorensen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityBoyz Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10  Auckland’s recruitment chief Terry McFlynn also believed to be courting Melbourne City’s perennial poacher Jamie Maclaren to add to a mix of predominantly Kiwi-bred talent. https://www.ftbl.com.au/news/coveted-mariners-rock-opts-for-auckland-in-blow-to-champions-605936 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 Would take both of them in a heartbeat, I'd struggle to see why Nisbet would leave CCM to go to another aleague club though 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughJass Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 2 hours ago, neio said: Would take both of them in a heartbeat, I'd struggle to see why Nisbet would leave CCM to go to another aleague club though Same time why hasn't he signed a contract yet? City might be dangling the Europe pathway in front of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 7 hours ago, HughJass said: Same time why hasn't he signed a contract yet? City might be dangling the Europe pathway in front of him I thought it would be similar to O'Neill situation from last season, has ambitions to go to Europe. Just waiting for the right move and the season to finish before announcing anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted March 10 Report Share Posted March 10 13 hours ago, neio said: Would take both of them in a heartbeat, I'd struggle to see why Nisbet would leave CCM to go to another aleague club though It would make more sense landing Trewin as he's younger and not yet in the shop window for Europe, yet has good potential! Where as surely Nisbet has already got overseas interest and is less likely to stay in the A-League... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted March 11 Author Report Share Posted March 11 57 minutes ago, MHFC-FAN said: It would make more sense landing Trewin as he's younger and not yet in the shop window for Europe, yet has good potential! Where as surely Nisbet has already got overseas interest and is less likely to stay in the A-League... Depends whether our purported interest is as a player or as a business proposition for a transfer fee. I'm getting very cynical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted March 11 Report Share Posted March 11 2 hours ago, jw1739 said: Depends whether our purported interest is as a player or as a business proposition for a transfer fee. I'm getting very cynical. It's pretty obvious the A-League is a development league, is it not? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughJass Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 Looks like Nisbet done   1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Hack Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 There's a scout who writes in The Roar who says Nisbet is struggling to get overseas interest due to his lack of height. Suggest City probably splashed the cash and he's taken that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted March 14 Report Share Posted March 14 2 hours ago, Le Hack said: There's a scout who writes in The Roar who says Nisbet is struggling to get overseas interest due to his lack of height. Suggest City probably splashed the cash and he's taken that I think he'll be a fantastic acquisition. Quick, mobile and creative, he's exactly what we need more of. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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