Mr MO Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Mr MO said: https://keepup.com.au/news/new-rules-bolster-clubs-firepower-in-hunt-to-sign-top-talent Interestingly, the article doesn’t mention how Melbourne City benefitted from the clever use of the designated player spot last season? Edited July 7, 2022 by Mr MO 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 I'm waiting to see how City uses these amended rules...our signings so far (Talbot, Van Der Venne and a couple of scholarship players) are hardly spectacular. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, jw1739 said: I'm waiting to see how City uses these amended rules...our signings so far (Talbot, Van Der Venne and a couple of scholarship players) are hardly spectacular. As the article suggested, plenty of opportunities to strengthen your squad, comes with a $ cost of course. I would like to think that our current marquees are under $600k per year so they are now allowed to be moved into the designated spots (who are still outside the cap). That leaves the door wide open for some top quality marquee players!! Edited July 7, 2022 by Mr MO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanty Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 42 minutes ago, Mr MO said: As the article suggested, plenty of opportunities to strengthen your squad, comes with a $ cost of course. I would like to think that our current marquees are under $600k per year so they are now allowed to be moved into the designated spots (who are still outside the cap). That leaves the door wide open for some top quality marquee players!! cannot 100% confirm this but I believe both marquee slots are taken by Maclaren and Leckie whilst we have both Designated Player slots free, unless we decide to move a current player in one or both of them to free up cap space, but ideally we would take advantage of the 2 free slots we have and sign some quality players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 6 hours ago, Mr MO said: https://keepup.com.au/news/new-rules-bolster-clubs-firepower-in-hunt-to-sign-top-talent What are the club roster guidelines? For Isuzu UTE A-League clubs, there are a number of factors to consider when targeting a player for recruitment. A club’s roster must consist of: A minimum 18 players and a maximum 23 players Within the 18-23 players that must be signed, clubs must have a minimum of two goalkeepers and a maximum of five foreign players This doesn’t include scholarship players of which clubs can sign 16 If your club is competing in the Asian Champions League, additional players can be contracted – but they are only eligible to participate in the ACL. But some players are exempt from the cap… Of the 18-23 players registered at each club, some may fall into certain categories making them exempt from the salary cap – meaning clubs do not have to include said player’s salary inside the set floor and ceiling of the cap. The exemptions apply to: MARQUEE PLAYERS: Each club can sign a maximum of two marquee players who are fully exempt from the cap. GUEST PLAYER: Each club can sign one guest player who is fully exempt from the salary cap, and is only eligible for circa half the season but who must meet strict eligibility requirements. DESIGNATED PLAYERS: ALM clubs are now able to sign two ‘designated players’ who must earn a salary between $300,000 and $600,000, and are also exempt from the salary cap. HOMEGROWN PLAYERS: Each club can have up to four ‘homegrown players’ fully exempt from the salary cap. However, these players must be Australian and aged under 23 that have come through the club’s youth system. LOYALTY PLAYERS: Each club can have an unlimited number of loyalty players, who based on the number of consecutive seasons of service, may have a slice of their salary excluded from the cap up to a maximum of 50%. Players who are eligible for that maximum must have played 10 or more consecutive seasons at the club. @jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, haz said: What are the club roster guidelines? For Isuzu UTE A-League clubs, there are a number of factors to consider when targeting a player for recruitment. A club’s roster must consist of: A minimum 18 players and a maximum 23 players Within the 18-23 players that must be signed, clubs must have a minimum of two goalkeepers and a maximum of five foreign players This doesn’t include scholarship players of which clubs can sign 16 If your club is competing in the Asian Champions League, additional players can be contracted – but they are only eligible to participate in the ACL. But some players are exempt from the cap… Of the 18-23 players registered at each club, some may fall into certain categories making them exempt from the salary cap – meaning clubs do not have to include said player’s salary inside the set floor and ceiling of the cap. The exemptions apply to: MARQUEE PLAYERS: Each club can sign a maximum of two marquee players who are fully exempt from the cap. GUEST PLAYER: Each club can sign one guest player who is fully exempt from the salary cap, and is only eligible for circa half the season but who must meet strict eligibility requirements. DESIGNATED PLAYERS: ALM clubs are now able to sign two ‘designated players’ who must earn a salary between $300,000 and $600,000, and are also exempt from the salary cap. HOMEGROWN PLAYERS: Each club can have up to four ‘homegrown players’ fully exempt from the salary cap. However, these players must be Australian and aged under 23 that have come through the club’s youth system. LOYALTY PLAYERS: Each club can have an unlimited number of loyalty players, who based on the number of consecutive seasons of service, may have a slice of their salary excluded from the cap up to a maximum of 50%. Players who are eligible for that maximum must have played 10 or more consecutive seasons at the club. @jw1739 Loyalty after 10 seasons? I thought this used to be much earlier like 4 or 5 seasons. edit: ah no 10 seasons is the maximum. It just doesn’t state when loyalty starts. Edited July 7, 2022 by Mr MO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 15 hours ago, haz said: What are the club roster guidelines? For Isuzu UTE A-League clubs, there are a number of factors to consider when targeting a player for recruitment. A club’s roster must consist of: A minimum 18 players and a maximum 23 players Within the 18-23 players that must be signed, clubs must have a minimum of two goalkeepers and a maximum of five foreign players This doesn’t include scholarship players of which clubs can sign 16 If your club is competing in the Asian Champions League, additional players can be contracted – but they are only eligible to participate in the ACL. But some players are exempt from the cap… Of the 18-23 players registered at each club, some may fall into certain categories making them exempt from the salary cap – meaning clubs do not have to include said player’s salary inside the set floor and ceiling of the cap. The exemptions apply to: MARQUEE PLAYERS: Each club can sign a maximum of two marquee players who are fully exempt from the cap. GUEST PLAYER: Each club can sign one guest player who is fully exempt from the salary cap, and is only eligible for circa half the season but who must meet strict eligibility requirements. DESIGNATED PLAYERS: ALM clubs are now able to sign two ‘designated players’ who must earn a salary between $300,000 and $600,000, and are also exempt from the salary cap. HOMEGROWN PLAYERS: Each club can have up to four ‘homegrown players’ fully exempt from the salary cap. However, these players must be Australian and aged under 23 that have come through the club’s youth system. LOYALTY PLAYERS: Each club can have an unlimited number of loyalty players, who based on the number of consecutive seasons of service, may have a slice of their salary excluded from the cap up to a maximum of 50%. Players who are eligible for that maximum must have played 10 or more consecutive seasons at the club. @jw1739 @haz Noted with thanks. Are we sure that there isn't a typo in there - clubs can now sign up to 16 scholarship players? It was 6 only 2-4 seasons ago, then 9, and now 16....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 35 minutes ago, jw1739 said: @haz Noted with thanks. Are we sure that there isn't a typo in there - clubs can now sign up to 16 scholarship players? It was 6 only 2-4 seasons ago, then 9, and now 16....? Considering that loyalty player now needs to play 10 seasons at a club, I would not be surprised that there are a few changes which have been added in. If true, the increase from 9 to 16 will only benefit us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 29 minutes ago, haz said: Considering that loyalty player now needs to play 10 seasons at a club, I would not be surprised that there are a few changes which have been added in. If true, the increase from 9 to 16 will only benefit us. @haz If I may correct you...the 10 years refers to the time taken for a player to reach the 50% loyalty discount. The rules don't say when the discount kicks in - I believe it starts at 10% and starts in the 5th season, but I could be wrong there. If we really can have 16 scholarship players outside the cap, we could have a squad made up of all 16 scholarship players, two marquees, two designated players, and two players sharing the cap between them.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, jw1739 said: @haz If I may correct you...the 10 years refers to the time taken for a player to reach the 50% loyalty discount. The rules don't say when the discount kicks in - I believe it starts at 10% and starts in the 5th season, but I could be wrong there. If we really can have 16 scholarship players outside the cap, we could have a squad made up of all 16 scholarship players, two marquees, two designated players, and two players sharing the cap between them.... I know you are stretching things. Minimum 18 players under the cap not 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 31 minutes ago, Jovan said: I know you are stretching things. Minimum 18 players under the cap not 2. No wonder I can't do much good with my squad in EPL Fantasy... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyh001 Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 Paul Izzo just signed for that side in Navy blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanty Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 Just now, mattyh001 said: Paul Izzo just signed for that side in Navy blue I reckon we will not be signing a new goalkeeper tbh, we have brought in a new GK coach and because of that I reckon they are keeping with glover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Zanty said: I reckon we will not be signing a new goalkeeper tbh, we have brought in a new GK coach and because of that I reckon they are keeping with glover Kind off agree. I was convinced they were going to replace or even bring in but now with this new bloke they look like sticking with Glover. For me this would be a mistake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanty Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, Jovan said: Kind off agree. I was convinced they were going to replace or even bring in but now with this new bloke they look like sticking with Glover. For me this would be a mistake. I believe Glover has potential, he has proved it, tbh no one knows how this will go, could be a PK masterclass bringing in a highly experienced GK coach or it could end up costing us, we will soon see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyh001 Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, Zanty said: I reckon we will not be signing a new goalkeeper tbh, we have brought in a new GK coach and because of that I reckon they are keeping with glover 12 minutes ago, Jovan said: Kind off agree. I was convinced they were going to replace or even bring in but now with this new bloke they look like sticking with Glover. For me this would be a mistake. 1 minute ago, Zanty said: I believe Glover has potential, he has proved it, tbh no one knows how this will go, could be a PK masterclass bringing in a highly experienced GK coach or it could end up costing us, we will soon see i give the club credit for backing Glover, he has shown he has the raw talent. my concern is that he has been very up and then very down. it's going to take a lot of work with him to (a) return to the form of past seasons and (b) stay there. with a number of fans on his back thats a lot of pressure for the kid 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 1 hour ago, mattyh001 said: i give the club credit for backing Glover, he has shown he has the raw talent. my concern is that he has been very up and then very down. it's going to take a lot of work with him to (a) return to the form of past seasons and (b) stay there. with a number of fans on his back thats a lot of pressure for the kid Bear in mind also that our new coach can also still play. So he'll offer additional cover whilst hopefully improving our current players. Also worth remembering the Nieuwenhuizen is starting to look pretty handy as a back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 47 minutes ago, fensaddler said: Bear in mind also that our new coach can also still play. So he'll offer additional cover whilst hopefully improving our current players. Also worth remembering the Nieuwenhuizen is starting to look pretty handy as a back up. @fensaddler When was the last time Van Houten actually played? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 3 hours ago, mattyh001 said: Paul Izzo just signed for that side in Navy blue Not surprised; half the Victory team comes from Xanthi, even Kevala. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughJass Posted July 9, 2022 Report Share Posted July 9, 2022 Hmmm thought Rogic said no to a-league but looks like he may play in it, was spotted in Sydney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 13 hours ago, HughJass said: Hmmm thought Rogic said no to a-league but looks like he may play in it, was spotted in Sydney What are you thinking, Sydney FC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughJass Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 13 hours ago, Mr MO said: What are you thinking, Sydney FC? Thats the rumor but Sydney are being linked to everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka1 Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 Still no Mooy 😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 Well, at the moment my list shows that we have 17 senior players plus Raphael (who may or may not still be a scholarship player) plus a number of scholarship players, so it would seem highly likely that we must be going to make further signings. Otherwise we are going to be running on a bare minimum squad next season, with all the seniors under the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deluka Posted July 11, 2022 Report Share Posted July 11, 2022 FTBL article suggests Melbourne City are in the mix for Fabregas. Sounds more likely to be going to Macarthur, however it’s refreshing to see the kind of name we’re after - would help with crowds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baka1 Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 Tards just announced Nani… You’d hope that we’ve got something huge in the works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Baka1 said: Tards just announced Nani… You’d hope that we’ve got something huge in the works Just work harder and stick to the system PK says! Shit posting aside, yes would be nice to flex our financial muscles for once. I’m not jealous of this travelling Nani but I’m also craving something better than JMAC and Leckie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Baka1 said: Tards just announced Nani… You’d hope that we’ve got something huge in the works He's a marquee. Our problem could be that we've already got the two marquee positions filled, and that we're limited to the designated player salary range of $300,000 - $600,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, jw1739 said: He's a marquee. Our problem could be that we've already got the two marquee positions filled, and that we're limited to the designated player salary range of $300,000 - $600,000. How though? Who’s earning above $600k then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Mr MO said: How though? Who’s earning above $600k then? I'm assuming that Maclaren and Leckie are marquees. Of course I may be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 5 minutes ago, jw1739 said: I'm assuming that Maclaren and Leckie are marquees. Of course I may be wrong. I’m not ruling out Reis as high earner in previous seasons. If you are marquee and earn under $600k they can be moved into the designated now. Albeit being vague PK confirmed at the start of last season that somehow Leckie was under the cap. JMAC signed for 2 or 3 million but over multiple seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityBoyz Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 If we were supposedly in for Fabregas who wants over 1.5 we must have a marquee spot available. Hopefully the club shows some ambition to get a bonafide marquee who will bring people to the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) 😮😮 😮 Edited July 12, 2022 by kingofhearts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, kingofhearts said: 😮😮 😮 Aaron Moist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 We're in for Cristian Battocchio, apparently - Argentine born Italian, 30 year old midfielder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Tommykins said: We're in for Cristian Battocchio, apparently - Argentine born Italian, 30 year old midfielder. Pucci’s cousin, PK would love to have him. 22 minutes ago, kingofhearts said: 😮😮 😮 Jenko0923 is a forum member here I believe. Edited July 12, 2022 by Mr MO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, Mr MO said: Pucci’s cousin, PK would love to have him. Jenko0923 is a forum member here I believe. If we all just believe hard enough it'll happen dw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughJass Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 3 hours ago, jw1739 said: He's a marquee. Our problem could be that we've already got the two marquee positions filled, and that we're limited to the designated player salary range of $300,000 - $600,000. Im pretty sure Leckie is in the 300-600K spot 47 minutes ago, kingofhearts said: 😮😮 😮 Twitter suggesting he is off to the championship with 3-4 clubs chasing him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted July 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 I call bullshit on the Aaron Mooy story. I can see no such announcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bannon Posted July 12, 2022 Report Share Posted July 12, 2022 its bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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