DFG_82 Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 If he wasn't our Marquee it wouldn't be so bad but when City is the richest club in competition our Marquees have to be Top 5 Players in the league but Koren struggles to be a starting player let alone a star of the league. Probably the worst signing the club has had when you consider the expectations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icantthinkofacoolname Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 (edited) Not in match day squad again, good signs! Edited January 16, 2016 by icantthinkofacoolname Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raw10 Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 He is gone.. just a matter of when not if Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 We would have won with his class. A shame really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 6 minutes ago, playmaker said: We would have won with his class. A shame really. Are you Robert Koren in disguise?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartOfCity Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 (edited) 9 hours ago, MHFC-FAN said: Are you Robert Koren in disguise?? Hmmmm -Name playmaker........ -184 posts, just the amount of posts someone would be able to do in 18months between training and family life........ Think your on to something Edited January 16, 2016 by HeartOfCity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Everyone complains about Koren not tracking back, well that was the theme of the night. 3 5 2 formation hey, running like idiots up and down the lines, then being useless in possession. At least Koren would have offered better opportunities with his class and some stability in the midfield instead of Mooy having to do everything. JVS is an idiot. If Koren is contracted as JVS says then play him for the team's benefit and piss off this 3 5 2 rubbish when its not working and bring on Koren. Instead we see the comedy relief in Williams and Garrucio coming on in a system that isn't working and expect them to change the game. The only player on our list that is capable to change the game off the bench is Koren. JVS is the worsed, he is lucky we have our other top class players that cover up his pathetic one dimensional strategy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXCiTyZeNXx Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Koren is a great midfielder. Idk y know one likes him. If Koren played last night. Our midfield would have been a lot stronger. Retre is fucking retarded and he can't pass for shit but with Koren he can dribble he can pass. Our midfield would be strong with Mooy and Koren and Mooy wouldn't have to do fucking everything he would have Koren who is not a retard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, xXCiTyZeNXx said: Koren is a great midfielder. Idk y know one likes him. If Koren played last night. Our midfield would have been a lot stronger. Retre is fucking retarded and he can't pass for shit but with Koren he can dribble he can pass. Our midfield would be strong with Mooy and Koren and Mooy wouldn't have to do fucking everything he would have Koren who is not a retard Are you playmaker in disguise?? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartOfCity Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 43 minutes ago, playmaker said: Everyone complains about Koren not tracking back, well that was the theme of the night. 3 5 2 formation hey, running like idiots up and down the lines, then being useless in possession. At least Koren would have offered better opportunities with his class and some stability in the midfield instead of Mooy having to do everything. JVS is an idiot. If Koren is contracted as JVS says then play him for the team's benefit and piss off this 3 5 2 rubbish when its not working and bring on Koren. Instead we see the comedy relief in Williams and Garrucio coming on in a system that isn't working and expect them to change the game. The only player on our list that is capable to change the game off the bench is Koren. JVS is the worsed, he is lucky we have our other top class players that cover up his pathetic one dimensional strategy. 30 minutes ago, xXCiTyZeNXx said: Koren is a great midfielder. Idk y know one likes him. If Koren played last night. Our midfield would have been a lot stronger. Retre is fucking retarded and he can't pass for shit but with Koren he can dribble he can pass. Our midfield would be strong with Mooy and Koren and Mooy wouldn't have to do fucking everything he would have Koren who is not a retard Serious?????? If Koren was that good then he would be playing. Koren through no fault of his own has been thought of as marquee quality by CFG, turns out that CFG may have underestimated the strength of the A league and Koren has coped the brunt of a poor decision. Koren hasn't even been smashed by the media, filip holosko in the other hand had only played a couple of games before the media where beating the drums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Robi Koren has had more than enough time to demonstrate that he's a quality player - that's if he is one. Two pre-seasons and just over a season and a half in the league. He's struggled to get on the park due to repeated injuries, scored a mere three goals (all in one match), perhaps had a handful of assists (I don't know the precise number), hasn't shown a great deal of energy or technical ability, and therefore the majority opinion is that he has turned out to be a very disappointing visa player let alone a marquee player. No-one's blaming him - certainly not me - and it doesn't matter where the "fault" lies - Koren himself or CFG's assessment of him - there are plenty of players around the world who for one reason or another don't make the expected impression at a club but do so both before and after with other clubs. As far as I'm concerned Robi just hasn't made it at City, and the sooner he leaves the better for the club and for himself if he wants to continue playing somewhere. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 I see your point but instead of everyone being so obsessed in his marquee status just look at him being another option. If we had better players then that's fine but we don't. On our bench we have players that replace tired players in a current tactic. Problem is it give no flexibility to change up tactics if needed. Trifiro is good value but that's about it as he can influence the game via intensity. Koren has shown he can provide decent opportunities when he comes off the bench as seen against the tards and a game before that when he came on in the 60th minute. So I don't care who he is, I just look at what he can provide. Regardless if its Koren or not we need a player to be able to allow flexibility in tactics and to supply added value to the team. I would rather someone to get 4 posessions and set up 3 good opportunities, than have young flankers getting 20 possessions and setting up none. Also a player like Koren will free Mooy which will allow him to have a greater impact on the game. Until we get a replacement for Koren we need him on our side or at least on the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Well, we'll have to disagree. I'm saying that he has not shown what you say he has. And I reckon the majority opinion is with me. Let's leave it there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) 6 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Well, we'll have to disagree. I'm saying that he has not shown what you say he has. And I reckon the majority opinion is with me. Let's leave it there. So who else have we got then. Last night we were found out by a crap side. We had no options in tactics at all. Front 2 are trying to make their own opportunities instead of positioning themselves to score and Mooy is the loan playmaker that gets marked because we have no one else at that quality. So who else is there? Edited January 17, 2016 by playmaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 48 minutes ago, playmaker said: So who else have we got then. Last night we were found out by a crap side. We had no options in tactics at all. Front 2 are trying to make their own opportunities instead of positioning themselves to score and Mooy is the loan playmaker that gets marked because we have no one else at that quality. So who else is there? There is no one else. That is the problem. Oh and I'm with JW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 49 minutes ago, playmaker said: We had no options in tactics at all. Incorrect. There are always options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Then it seems illogical not to include him, that's all I am saying, hope he gets replace by the appropriate player, until then he needs to be in the squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, playmaker said: Then it seems illogical not to include him, that's all I am saying, hope he gets replace by the appropriate player, until then he needs to be in the squad. Its perfectly logical. He is a waste of a starting 11 spot and even a bench spot. He has no quality and is invisible in every match he plays in. Besides, there is no way he is coming back now that the club has said they dont want him anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 1 minute ago, playmaker said: Then it seems illogical not to include him, that's all I am saying, hope he gets replace by the appropriate player, until then he needs to be in the squad. Help me out, when was Korens last assist? Maybe an easier more recent one, when was his last shot on target? I'll give you this one, it was October 17 2015, Round 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 2 minutes ago, n i k o said: Help me out, when was Korens last assist? Maybe an easier more recent one, when was his last shot on target? I'll give you this one, it was October 17 2015, Round 2. Against the tards when he through balled to Bruno to set up an easy 1 on 1 goal to kill the game 3-1. Bruno missed, not Koren's problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 1 minute ago, playmaker said: Against the tards when he through balled to Bruno to set up an easy 1 on 1 goal to kill the game 3-1. Bruno missed, not Koren's problem 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Just now, n i k o said: Not that I expect anything less when your previous post gets smashed to pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 @playmaker We're in negotiations to get him to leave the club, if freezing him out and not including him in the squad helps persuade him to leave, then I'd rather sacrifice 2 points away to Perth in round 15 if it means we'll sign an impressive replacement who will win us 2 points in a game at the end of the season and hopefully win a final 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartOfCity Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 1 minute ago, playmaker said: Not that I expect anything less when your previous post gets smashed to pieces. It's really hard to imagine a Slovenian accent when you type it ROBI............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 1 minute ago, heart_fan10 said: @playmaker We're in negotiations to get him to leave the club, if freezing him out and not including him in the squad helps persuade him to leave, then I'd rather sacrifice 2 points away to Perth in round 15 if it means we'll sign an impressive replacement who will win us 2 points in a game at the end of the season and hopefully win a final I have said before I don't care if he leaves and gets replace by a similar and better player, but atm he is on our list and not using him as part of a winning team is just plain stupid as we have no other player that can replace him on the pitch. At the end of the day I care more about the club and winning than bearing some grudge against any player and if he contibutes to a win i dont give a rats who he is. We need him in the squad until we get a replacement as seen yesterday as we had no forward thrust in our midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) he won't leave if we're playing him. He'll be happy to collect his wage and play 20minutes coming off the bench every week freeze him out, make him train on his own, don't even give him a chance of playing for the youth team let alone the seniors. Make him want to leave Edited January 17, 2016 by heart_fan10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 It's all academic the discussion about Koren being selected to play against Perth. He was injured. As he was for 1/3rd of last season and half of this season so far. The coaching staff couldn't have played Koren yesterday even if they had wanted to. His injuries alone are reasons enough to jettison him IMO. Imagine if Berisha was injured half the time for Victory; a club shouldn't be without an international marquee for so many games. Or even with a Visa player in general, like Germano, an A-League team can't afford to have players unavailable so frequently. It's highly likely Koren will get moved on before the January transfer window closes, and if Melbourne City just signs a good player who's fully fit most of the time, then that would be an obvious upgrade on Koren IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Rubbish he is injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 1 hour ago, playmaker said: Not that I expect anything less when your previous post gets smashed to pieces. "In association football, an assist is a contribution by a player which helps to score a goal." 8 minutes ago, playmaker said: Rubbish, he is shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 29 minutes ago, n i k o said: "In association football, an assist is a contribution by a player which helps to score a goal." Go back and play some FIFA. Obviously your about 10 years old and can't contribute to a proper debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 20 minutes ago, playmaker said: Go back and play some FIFA. Obviously your about 10 years old and can't contribute to a proper debate. Getting a bit sandy there... i think it's time to give up the 'Koren is a game changer off the bench' argument. He's a half arsed hack whos well past it physically and emotionally. Next! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Not getting sandy at all but if Silva presents Aguero with five 1 on 1 opportunities and Aguero misses all of them then by Niko's logic Silva played bad because the sheet shows no assists. That's the point I am getting at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 No, the point is Koren played shit because he is shit. In terms of marquees he's probably only just shaded by an obese and uninterested Mario Jardel as the worst. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 This is Koren's best and only performance in 2 seasons, against the worst team last season. Done absolutely nothing since... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 (edited) @playmaker Great ball by Koren, Bruno should have finished. Didn't count as an assist though. When was Korens last assist? And that means the ball ended in the back of the net. Edited January 17, 2016 by n i k o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jun Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 @playmaker can you just not, please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Yep no assist, but played well. We will leave it as that then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 Is he on the plane yet. Koren for the tip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 13 minutes ago, playmaker said: Yep no assist, but played well. We will leave it as that then. Nah fuck that. He's shit. Just admit it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 17, 2016 Report Share Posted January 17, 2016 You know know what your problem is, you hate too much on Koren as a marquee to realise that he is still of value to our list. We will just keep struggling though the midfield until we get caceres I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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