Red or Dead Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 I'm with @playmaker on this and giving Koren one last chance in his preferred position...Mooy to feed Koren a brace off a silver platter this weekend If Koren cannot get on (or at a minimum assist getting on) the scoreboard then he truly is shit and I'm jumping Schip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Koren is turning into a 35 year old Walker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 a 35 year old Ramsay without the stepovers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 This is a competition that we're aiming to win, isn't it? You don't do that by having a bloke or two on the park every week "being given a chance" or "one more chance." This is IMO the no. 1 problem with van 't Schip - he's still basically a youth team coach at heart where the aim is to give players chances to show their worth. That's why - as someone said - he regularly dips into his lucky bag and pulls out a youth player or two to be in the match-day squad. I actually feel sorry for Koren, because he must know that he isn't coming close to meeting expectations. But there's no room for sentiment in football. He should have been dropped long ago, and if he didn't like it then he could always seek a release. Club needs to harden up in this regard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loriente Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 This clown is literally 75% through his stint with us and has produced nothing of note, and people are still saying to 'give him one more chance'? This guy would literally have to transform into Lionel Messi to justify his price tag and taking up an international marquee position in our squad for 2 fucking years! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) This whole thing with him being on another level is the biggest bullshit I've ever heard. How did Engelaar make an impact with even lesser players playing around him? Or what about Bruno. More than half his excellent runs aren't seen but he keeps making them and eventually gets a ball passed to him which he makes the most of. The guy has to be able to impact the game from the first touch he makes on the pitch which he hasn't. No excuses, no more chances and no more potential talk of him perhaps delivering an adequate squad player performance let alone marquee performance. Not good enough. Edited January 4, 2016 by n i k o 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Koren is no good and has been for years, that's the sad truth. Why do you think he couldn't get a start at Hull in his last season there? Basically he was here 5 years too late. i don't feel too sorry for him though. He's on extraordinarily good money and is free to leave at any time. Of all the guys in the squad he's the least deserving of sympathy I reckon. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Red or Dead said: I'm with @playmaker on this and giving Koren one last chance in his preferred position...Mooy to feed Koren a brace off a silver platter this weekend If Koren cannot get on (or at a minimum assist getting on) the scoreboard then he truly is shit and I'm jumping Schip! welcome to the dark side Just a note on the whole Koren not being able to link up etc, in the last 3 games I have seen devastating link ups with Koren Bruno and Mooy. It relies on understanding and chemistry between the player, not something that happens by having a group of good players on the pitch. Saturday's team chemistry was poor, positioning was poor, understanding was poor, and Koren had no hope to use his class. I reserve my judgement to the end of the next match, and if he starts with Mooy this week and has no impact on the game then we may need to look at other players. But if he links up with Mooy the way I think he will then we have won the league, as no team will stop Bruno, Harry, Mooy, and Koren. Edited January 4, 2016 by playmaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 I know City Group spent big money on building a soccer robot based on Koren's efforts at City ... I found this leaked clip of the resultant cyborg (amazing!) 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 The robot is pretty accurate except they need to work on the haircut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) 16 minutes ago, playmaker said: welcome to the dark side Just a note on the whole Koren not being able to link up etc, in the last 3 games I have seen devastating link ups with Koren Bruno and Mooy. It relies on understanding and chemistry between the player, not something that happens by having a group of good players on the pitch. Saturday's team chemistry was poor, positioning was poor, understanding was poor, and Koren had no hope to use his class. I reserve my judgement to the end of the next match, and if he starts with Mooy this week and has no impact on the game then we may need to look at other players. But if he links up with Mooy the way I think he will then we have won the league, as no team will stop Bruno, Harry, Mooy, and Koren. What about the games he already played with Mooy? Im sure now things will be much different Edited January 4, 2016 by n i k o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Seriously why do we always take the red flag like a bunch of bulls. (Sorry for the metaphor). One poster is just winding everyone up me included. Mods please lock this thread Koren is just too poor to discuss further. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) 21 minutes ago, playmaker said: welcome to the dark side Just a note on the whole Koren not being able to link up etc, in the last 3 games I have seen devastating link ups with Koren Bruno and Mooy. It relies on understanding and chemistry between the player, not something that happens by having a group of good players on the pitch. Saturday's team chemistry was poor, positioning was poor, understanding was poor, and Koren had no hope to use his class. I reserve my judgement to the end of the next match, and if he starts with Mooy this week and has no impact on the game then we may need to look at other players. But if he links up with Mooy the way I think he will then we have won the league, as no team will stop Bruno, Harry, Mooy, and Koren. He was put through one-on-one with Janjetkovic. The opportunity to show his class was right there and then. Instead he went to his left, his non-preferred side, allowing the 'keeper to narrow the angle. With his balance all wrong Koren then blazed away with his left foot with the ball always curving away from the goal into or past the side netting. Bruno would have gone to the right, knocked the ball wide of the 'keeper and stroked it home with the inside of his right foot. Just as he did against Brisbane. Arse vs. class. Edited January 4, 2016 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) 8 minutes ago, n i k o said: What about the games he already played with Mooy? Im sure now things will be much different What, coming on at the 65 min mark when Mooy is nearly spent. When Koren came on Moody's game lifted in both those games as he wasn't the only playmaker on the pitch, and against the tard Koren fed Bruno for an easy goal to kill the game, but Bruno missed and so did Williams on the rebound. I have no problem with the games he played with Mooy as his presence nearly changed the game. Edited January 4, 2016 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Koren out KaKa in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Its not a question of whether Koren makes any contribution or not, he clearly does. The question is whether his contribution is at marquee level compatible to our other marquee? Does he dominate games? Has his contribution ever turned a game around? Do people come to see him the way that they will come to see Mooy, Bruno or Harry? No, no, no and no. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) As I have said before Mooy needs him so he doesn't get smashed by 4 defenders every match. With Koren's class he has to be marked. Edited January 4, 2016 by playmaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 24 minutes ago, jw1739 said: He was put through one-on-one with Janjetkovic. The opportunity to show his class was right there and then. Instead he went to his left, his non-preferred side, allowing the 'keeper to narrow the angle. With his balance all wrong Koren then blazed away with his left foot with the ball always curving away from the goal into or past the side netting. Bruno would have gone to the right, knocked the ball wide of the 'keeper and stroked it home with the inside of his right foot. Just as he did against Brisbane. Arse vs. class. Yeah I know what you are saying we have had way too many 1 on 1 misses in the last 3 games, Zullo, Bruno, Harry and Koren, all weak efforts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 35 minutes ago, Dylan said: Koren is kaka Fixed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 2 hours ago, playmaker said: his presence nearly changed the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Torn Asunder said: I know City Group spent big money on building a soccer robot based on Koren's efforts at City ... I found this leaked clip of the resultant cyborg (amazing!) Zullo on the weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 3 minutes ago, playmaker said: Zullo on the weekend. Do you mean that drunk guy yelling zullo and falling over in the car park last week or that zullo when he came on changed the game for us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 6 minutes ago, playmaker said: Zullo on the weekend. Lol this guy. Trying to defend a useless spud in Koren and then blaming zullo for the draw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) Nah when he fell over and turned the ball over and they scored the first goal, or maybe when he was 2 metres out from goal and missed the target. Cost us 2 goals. BTW of course he was a help when he came on, look at who he replaced, before that we were playing with 10 men. Edited January 4, 2016 by playmaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 12 minutes ago, Dylan said: Lol this guy. Trying to defend a useless spud in Koren and then blaming zullo for the draw Just stating the facts, not blaming Zullo for anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 1 hour ago, playmaker said: Nah when he fell over and turned the ball over and they scored the first goal, or maybe when he was 2 metres out from goal and missed the target. Cost us 2 goals. BTW of course he was a help when he came on, look at who he replaced, before that we were playing with 10 men. What are you on about? The first goal Zullo was tracking back and had nothing to do with the goal, Melling turned it over, and now after trying to defend Koren surely you are not going to raise Zullo missing a chance? Perhaps the ball didnt realise Koren's higher level and missed by itself, since apparently Koren is operating numerous levels above the players around him and thus explaining his utter failier as a player for our club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 Holosko has 15 centimeters on Zullo and out jumped him, basic physics was against him sadly. Korens' effort is simply not good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 I am sure it was zullo that turned it over..mmm have to have another look at the replay. And who is defending Koran, his miss was pathetic as was Zullo's, both of them should have been on target. Just because I am an optimist about Koren's value to the mid field doesn't mean I don't see his short comings, at the end of the day I want to win the league and if Koren and Mooy can link up I think we can knock over the top teams, but without that I can't see us winning as the other players just aren't up to that level. We rely on Mooy to be a match winner every week which makes us predictable. We need another quality playmaking mid and atm Koren is the only fit. I want to see them play together for a full game then I will make my final judgement. I just hope it works because if it does we will be unstoppable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperfuzz Posted January 4, 2016 Report Share Posted January 4, 2016 (edited) If you are to believe the other thread where we are trying to turf him mid-season, it would probably tie in with the narrative of him playing like he cbf. Surely he'd be aware of it if true. Edited January 4, 2016 by hyperfuzz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post strider Posted January 8, 2016 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) I have resorted to unorthodox methods to rid this city from the cancer that is Koren. My Movie.mp4 Join the revolution my puppets I mean friends Edited January 8, 2016 by strider 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 1 hour ago, strider said: I have resorted to unorthodox methods to rid this city from the cancer that is Koren. My Movie.mp4 Join the revolution my puppets I mean friends This is art 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) strider, it needs a second scene. Good dialog and dramatic tension though Edited January 8, 2016 by belaguttman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 cunt's so shit he didn't even burn quickly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Comic sans did it for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandev Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 Funniest thing all week. Great start to my weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted January 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 11 hours ago, strider said: I have resorted to unorthodox methods to rid this city from the cancer that is Koren. My Movie.mp4 Join the revolution my puppets I mean friends Can these be a regular thing? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illeatyourheart Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 12 hours ago, strider said: I have resorted to unorthodox methods to rid this city from the cancer that is Koren. My Movie.mp4 Join the revolution my puppets I mean friends Strider, clean your stove Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 an Oscar coming up for Best Screenplay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 8, 2016 Report Share Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) 12 hours ago, strider said: I have resorted to unorthodox methods to rid this city from the cancer that is Koren. My Movie.mp4 Join the revolution my puppets I mean friends https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzkOYhFikpM Edited January 9, 2016 by n i k o why wont this fucking video embed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted January 9, 2016 Report Share Posted January 9, 2016 13 hours ago, strider said: I have resorted to unorthodox methods to rid this city from the cancer that is Koren. My Movie.mp4 Join the revolution my puppets I mean friends Hmm i dunno, opening something linked by strider, how many virus's does this have? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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