belaguttman Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 They may even announce that Gerard Nus has left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 So weve signed 3 more fringe players? Exception to chapman maybe but once again the question shalk be asked, would these 3 be starting 11 material at other clubs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 So weve signed 3 more fringe players? Exception to chapman maybe but once again the question shalk be asked, would these 3 be starting 11 material at other clubs? Why do they have to be starting XI material? Depth is good, Chapman and Melling are both really promising players and will develop. Admittedly I'm holding my reservations on Brown but he may yet turn out to be alright, not sure about signing him on a 2 year deal though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) So weve signed 3 more fringe players? Exception to chapman maybe but once again the question shalk be asked, would these 3 be starting 11 material at other clubs? The reality is, there are not alot of good players off contract and most aus players overseas would cost more money and therefore cant fit under the cap. Edited May 20, 2014 by Dylan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombegongal Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 So weve signed 3 more fringe players? Exception to chapman maybe but once again the question shalk be asked, would these 3 be starting 11 material at other clubs? I'm happy with two of those signings and Brown may yet come on. People seem to have a two paced agenda when it comes to the club. They want the best starting 11 players with the best young talent playing regularly (they don't become good without playing time making mistakes) they want a flawless record and all under the cap. Back to reality. Sometimes you have to back young players that might not be 'starting 11 material' to actually discover and recognise their talent. They don't get better on the bench or with 5 minutes of game time. I'm sure in time some 'starting 11 players' will be bought in sit back relax and enjoy the ride. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Happy to he proven wrong but I wouldn't be expecting any silverware in the near future with the shape of our current squad. But hey, at least we got depth to replace an average starter with an even more average replacement should someone get injured/suspended. Keep accepting mediocrity lads 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LR9 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Largely, I think the squad is looking great, with the three-four 'big ones' to come. Excited about the kids. Between Melling, Mauk, Chapman, Archibald, Schroen, Garuccio and Mooy, we have a huge talent pool of potential next-gen Socceroos in our ranks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I think the squad is nicely poised, however it will be judged on our last 5-7 signings. As Murfy said, the base has been laid re squad and now we have prepared the books to sign the cream. Very promising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 So weve signed 3 more fringe players? Exception to chapman maybe but once again the question shalk be asked, would these 3 be starting 11 material at other clubs? I'm happy with two of those signings and Brown may yet come on. People seem to have a two paced agenda when it comes to the club. They want the best starting 11 players with the best young talent playing regularly (they don't become good without playing time making mistakes) they want a flawless record and all under the cap. Back to reality. Sometimes you have to back young players that might not be 'starting 11 material' to actually discover and recognise their talent. They don't get better on the bench or with 5 minutes of game time. I'm sure in time some 'starting 11 players' will be bought in sit back relax and enjoy the ride. Good post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 interesting that they haven't confirmed Mooy yet Wsw are still in the ACL This shouldn't matter. In the same way that Shinji Ono has already left WSW, despite them still being in the ACL, so too Mooy should already have played his final game as a WSW player, as was reported last week: It wasn’t only Ono’s last game for the Wanderers, with Youssouf Hersi moving on to Perth Glory, Aaron Mooy off to Melbourne Heart and Jerome Polenz likely to leave the club too. The rebuilding will begin in earnest during the off-season, but Popovic says that’s all part of football. “They were all outstanding, but you’ve got players who are leaving the club and they performed to that level,” Popovic said. “It just shows the bond these players have. They will always be remembered, but that’s part of football - you move on.” http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/wanderers-overturn-twogoal-deficit-to-reach-acl-quarterfinals-and-send-shinji-ono-off-in-style/story-fnk6rpyc-1226918069428 As for the squad overall, it should be remembered that Heart needn't make anymore youth signings, whilst other A-League clubs still have to. Also, Heart still has 2 big cards up its sleeve with the International marquee and Australian marquee spots. Compare that with victory, who have very arguably wasted their Australian marquee spot on Milligan and their international marquee spot on Berisha (both of them are good A-League players, of course, but so much more could be done with the marquee spots). Also, it's been reported that Sydney will likely sign Alex Brosque as their Australian marquee. And the odds of Sydney signing a 35+ international marquee in rapid decline are pretty high. As for all other A-League clubs, I'd say most won't get 2 marquees (and many marquees will just be signed to secure not actual marquee players outside of the cap). And finally as for salary cap signings, Davutovic reported a little over a week ago that Heart has "significant salary cap space to secure two more visa players" (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/melbourne-heart-poach-newcastle-jets-talented-duo-connor-chapman-and-james-brown/story-fnk6rlg0-1226914874845). So alongside the announcement of Mooy, there should be at least 2 other good players that will be signed inside the salary cap. Heart pretty much started recruitment with the signing of the less impressive players first, and the best is yet to come. And our best players look set to easily be better than other A-League teams best players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeming Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I think it's looking good. With 2 marques to come and 2 more good visa players to come that's 4 out of 10 field players who will push the currently announced squad out. So almost half our stating team is yet to be signed. I think we will be very competitive with a squad like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulhollanddrive Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 So these are purely guesses: 40k - Chapman*, Mauk*, Melling* 50k - Kalmar, Velaphi, Garuccio 75k - Redmayne, Brown 160k - Murdocca 200k - Dugandzic, Ramsay, Germano 220k - Kisnorbo, Wielaart, Williams 260k - Mooy = 2m. Outside the cap: - Junior Marquee - Local Marquee - International Marquee 500k of cap remaining for: - 2 more 50k youth players - 400k for between 2 to 5 other players With all that, you can see why we just filled 3 spots with cheap options, as there's not much left in the cap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 So these are purely guesses: 40k - Chapman*, Mauk*, Melling* 50k - Kalmar, Velaphi, Garuccio 75k - Redmayne, Brown 160k - Murdocca 200k - Dugandzic, Ramsay, Germano 220k - Kisnorbo, Wielaart, Williams 260k - Mooy = 2m. Outside the cap: - Junior Marquee - Local Marquee - International Marquee 500k of cap remaining for: - 2 more 50k youth players - 400k for between 2 to 5 other players With all that, you can see why we just filled 3 spots with cheap options, as there's not much left in the cap. Isn't Germano getting under 100k? I believe he's complained about how crappy his wages are in the past. Also, I'll cry with rage if Ramsay is on 200k a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moops Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 I'm happy so far, especially Chapman. Brown is interesting, he burst on the scene like the hot exchange student, then went missing. Though GVE had the Jets all sorts of terrible whith quite a good team, so not surprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 How the fuck can you forget Hoffman. Blasphemy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 So these are purely guesses: 40k - Chapman*, Mauk*, Melling* 50k - Kalmar, Velaphi, Garuccio 75k - Redmayne, Brown 160k - Murdocca 200k - Dugandzic, Ramsay, Germano 220k - Kisnorbo, Wielaart, Williams 260k - Mooy = 2m. Outside the cap: - Junior Marquee - Local Marquee - International Marquee 500k of cap remaining for: - 2 more 50k youth players - 400k for between 2 to 5 other players With all that, you can see why we just filled 3 spots with cheap options, as there's not much left in the cap. Isn't Germano getting under 100k? I believe he's complained about how crappy his wages are in the past. Also, I'll cry with rage if Ramsay is on 200k a season. He was originally signed on minimum wage. Don't know if he has since negotiated his way to a higher wage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 We're playing Bolton Wanderers preseason next year. I have no idea how to feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 23rd of July, by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 is that in aus or in manchester? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hedaik Posted May 20, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 We're playing Bolton Wanderers preseason next year. I have no idea how to feel. Mornington Peninsula XI weren't available? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 We're playing Bolton Wanderers preseason next year. I have no idea how to feel. Really? Should be pretty competitive, the A-League's probably at about lower-championship level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 In the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 As in 2015?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Nope, in two months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Nah when the squad is in Manchester for preseason. Thats a good development then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 by the way tommykins, where did you hear this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Bolton Wanderers Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 (edited) Bolton Wanderers Twitter. I can confirm that a full list of Bolton's pre-season matches is there. We are included on Wednesday 23rd July. We are due to play our FFA Cup match not long afterwards. Edited May 20, 2014 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marn11 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Step up from La Trobe Uni I reckon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Wasn't the mighty la trobe 11 available for a re-match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 From the Bolton website: Bolton XI's pre-season schedule confirmed Posted: Tue 20 May 2014 Additional five fixtures added to the Bolton Wanderers XI's pre-season schedule Bolton Wanderers XI have finalised their pre-season schedule ahead of the 2014/15 campaign. In addition to the previously announced Harold Taylor Memorial Trophy match against Chorley, a further five more fixtures have been added to the pre-season programme. The Bolton XI team will face Bamber Bridge, Hyde FC, AFC Fylde and Wrexham all away from home, as well as a fixture against Australian side Melbourne Heart at the County Ground, Leyland. The games against Bamber Bridge, Hyde and Chorley will all kick off at 3pm on Saturdays, with the Melbourne Heart, Fylde and Wrexham games to take place through the weeks. Full dates and kick off times for the fixtures can be found below. Admission and ticket details will be announced in due course. Bolton Wanderers XI’s pre-season schedule in full Bamber Bridge (A), QED Stadium - Saturday 12 July, 3pm Hyde FC (A), Ewen Fields - Saturday 19 July, 3pm Melbourne Heart (H), County Ground - Wednesday 23 July, 7.30pm Chorley (A), Victory Park - Saturday 26 July, 3pm AFC Fylde (A), Kellamergh Park - Tuesday 29 July, 7.30pm Wrexham (A), Racecource Ground - Friday 1 August, 7.45pm http://www.bwfc.co.uk/news/article/bolton-xis-pre-season-schedule-confirmed-20.5.14-1565218.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xXJawsaXx Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Pretty decent actually. It means we won't go into the FFA cup with absolutely no match experience at least haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 The County Ground, Leyland. Home of Bolton Wanderers Reserves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fentonthescreamingcactus Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Anyone making the trip over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 Anyone making the trip over? Ask Sheikh Mansour for a fully paid, first class ticket on Etihad while wearing your Red&White home strip 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 great news. Playing against some decent teams in the pre-season, and also playing in the ffa cup should have us more than prepared for round 1. Won't take us half a season to get warm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natalie182 Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 It's the Bolton Wanderers X1, whatever that means. Not the first team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 It's the Bolton Wanderers X1, whatever that means. Not the first team. Will still be a good experience for the boys to play overseas though. Surely the team they play against can't be any worse than a VPL side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falastur Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 It's the Bolton Wanderers X1, whatever that means. Not the first team. Bolton XI means a team of 11 players (hence XI in Roman numerals) from across their various squads. In practise it will mean a mix of reserve players, their best youths and maybe a handful of first teamers who need the match fitness. Bolton is maybe 15 miles from Manchester. I'll mention the match on Bluemoon, you might get a few dozen City fans there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted May 20, 2014 Report Share Posted May 20, 2014 The County Ground, Leyland. Home of Bolton Wanderers Reserves. looks like Epping, the Heart players will feel right at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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