Dylan Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 This is bullshit. If a player is not training with us and has not signed up with us again 4 months after the season ended then stop stuffing around and pull the offer. Bet you Ange Postecoglou would not put up with this shit at Victory. Why does it matter what Ange would put up with? When will people understand we are not victory so please please stop comparing us to them, the context of our two clubs are completely different apart from been in the same city. Did you just argue with yourself then? :/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 I'm a bit weary that Garcia is the midfielder that JD spoke of earlier this month, that might be slowing up our pursuit of an attacking player, which JD referred to in this statement: "Our preference is to try and find a defensive midfielder. We want to ensure we can get the right person to add to our midfield group. And that will [help us to] make a decision on who we sign as the attacking option," Didulica said. (http://www.goal.com/en-au/news/4021/a-league/2013/07/09/4105220/exclusive-heart-confirm-failed-karagounis-approach) Garcia is a fine player, and I'm fine with Heart taking some time to re-sign him, but if he is complicating other signings then we should rethink the merit of re-signing him. This is especially the case now because we would need to play him as a central midfielder, which is a position he's not too familiar with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millm103 Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 This is bullshit. If a player is not training with us and has not signed up with us again 4 months after the season ended then stop stuffing around and pull the offer. Bet you Ange Postecoglou would not put up with this shit at Victory. Why does it matter what Ange would put up with? When will people understand we are not victory so please please stop comparing us to them, the context of our two clubs are completely different apart from been in the same city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fentonthescreamingcactus Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Most other clubs wouldn't put up with this not just victory 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toogood18 Posted July 28, 2013 Report Share Posted July 28, 2013 Look it will be the same as last year, with Garcia looking for a big deal in Asia somewhere. When he doesn't find it, he'll come crawling back to us and will play for peanuts again with his tail between his legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Cain Posted July 29, 2013 Report Share Posted July 29, 2013 Most other clubs wouldn't put up with this not just victory Heart and Victory have both shown they're quite happy to sign players close to the start of the season, I don't see how Garcia is any different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 1, 2013 Report Share Posted August 1, 2013 It looks as though the MHFC website is being updated over the past 24 hours or so. Garcia has been removed from the list of players. Velaphi, Ramsay and Kewell added; Wielaert, Murdocca, Mitchinson, Mauk not added yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defibrillator Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 It looks as though the MHFC website is being updated over the past 24 hours or so. Garcia has been removed from the list of players. Velaphi, Ramsay and Kewell added; Wielaert, Murdocca, Mitchinson, Mauk not added yet. Don't panic. The rumor is that they've sourced this from Wikipedia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/1162105/Change-of-Heart-leaves-Garcia-in-limbo looks like RG is a bit annoyed that we didnt come back to him with a better offer. It appears that he is trying to pretend he is the victim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/1162105/Change-of-Heart-leaves-Garcia-in-limbo looks like RG is a bit annoyed that we didnt come back to him with a better offer. It appears that he is trying to pretend he is the victim. Those statements attributed to Garcia contradict what has been said by MHFC during this on-going saga. This is a guy who has hung out for more money (which he's entitled to do). It appears now as though the club drew a line in the sand and that the final offer the club made made has either lapsed or been withdrawn. As I see it the club is perfectly entitled to take that approach. Otherwise the saga could go on indefinitely. Garcia is old enough and big enough to understand the risk he was taking. The outcome is unfortunate, but them's the breaks. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyh001 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/1162105/Change-of-Heart-leaves-Garcia-in-limbo looks like RG is a bit annoyed that we didnt come back to him with a better offer. It appears that he is trying to pretend he is the victim. Look it will be the same as last year, with Garcia looking for a big deal in Asia somewhere. When he doesn't find it, he'll come crawling back to us and will play for peanuts again with his tail between his legs. This is bullshit. If a player is not training with us and has not signed up with us again 4 months after the season ended then stop stuffing around and pull the offer. Bet you Ange Postecoglou would not put up with this shit at Victory. Why does it matter what Ange would put up with? When will people understand we are not victory so please please stop comparing us to them, the context of our two clubs are completely different apart from been in the same city. From article: ”We were in the middle of negotiations which were going well and then I think they had to reschedule their budget and I believe they also tried to sign another player in another position. ”So I'm still waiting for them to come back with another offer." the way i see it Garcia has stalled and stalled and stalled, trying to get more outta the deal. don't blame him for that, but to act like a whinging bitch now the club has restructured their offer is plain wrong. what was he expecting. just so disappointed it has all become so public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) Bullshit. Here's what Garcia said on May 20th this year: “I am still talking with the club and I am waiting to hear back from them and I also have feelers out elsewhere and there are a few possibilities,” said Garcia [...] “A few things have come to light that are of some interest but I am not rushing into anything and I want to make an educated decision when the time comes. “I also certainly haven’t given up on staying with Heart and I know John Didulica (Heart's football operations manager) is doing all he can to come to an agreement and we are certainly getting closer.” [...] “I am pretty relaxed about the future,” he added. “I am the good side of 30 and more experienced and level headed as a player and a person. And I just want to enjoy my football – wherever that may be.” There was interest from Garcia’s hometown club Perth Glory eight weeks back but negotiations stalled and Asia, the home to a gallery of Australians, is also a possibility. http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/news/1152452/garcia-pondering-heart-bypass And May 25th this year: "At the moment I'm just looking at my options," he added. "I'm waiting on a few things but that should probably become clearer in the next three weeks. "I'm still in negotiations with Melbourne Heart and there's another couple of A-League teams as well. "There's also options in the Middle East and in Asia. "I've got to consider everything for the good of my career. Ideally I'd like to play in a league that runs all year round. "To get the best out of yourself you need to be playing as much competitive football as possible and this might be my last chance to make a World Cup squad." http://www.thisishullandeastriding.co.uk/Richard-Garcia-delighted-Hull-City-big-time/story-19088168-detail/story.html#axzz2antKynsV He is disrespecting the intelligence of Heart supporters if he thinks he just can turn around now and act the innocent victim. I agree with others, that he demanded a very high price, perhaps because he knew he was asking for too much, and he wanted negotiations to go on for long enough so that other clubs might offer him contracts. Very disappointed with how Garcia has approached negotiations to re-sign. Edited August 2, 2013 by Murfy1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Fucking hell, twg really hate us don't they. Awesome one sided "journalism" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 glad we didnt let him hold us to ransom. looks like we feel we have better options for the money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) Fucking hell, twg really hate us don't they. Awesome one sided "journalism" Garcia's last interview with TWG completely contradicts what he told them in this interview. Very weak journalism to just accept what Garcia told them and print it as gospel. Edited August 2, 2013 by Murfy1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 TWG=bullshit story. The blokes been looking around at other options since the end of the season so why shouldn't we also be sure that we cover all bases - including Garcia deciding to leave. Just the usual contract tooing and froing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyh001 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) Fucking hell, twg really hate us don't they. Awesome one sided "journalism" Garcia's last interview with TWG completely contradicts what he told them in this interview. Very weak journalism to just accept what Garcia told them and print it as gospel. given how many positive Heart stories they have written because of Kewell i dont think its them disliking us - more they are just shit Edited August 2, 2013 by mattyh001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 IMO we'll sign a foreign DM and striker first, and if Garcia still hasn't found a club by then we'll probably offer him something a bit more depending on whatever remaining salary space we have 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Fucking hell, twg really hate us don't they. Awesome one sided "journalism" Garcia's last interview with TWG completely contradicts what he told them in this interview. Very weak journalism to just accept what Garcia told them and print it as gospel. given how many positive Heart stories they have written because of Kewell i dont think its them disliking us - more they are just shit Well, they did have that beat up that "Heart has lost Kewell", when he went off for a short holiday when we were negotiating to sign him. Of course, as Munn later said, Heart knew exactly where Kewell was, and Heart and Kewell had things sorted out, but nonetheless they ran with the story. I agree, though, that overall it's just very lazy and poor journalism. Unfortunately, though, their bad journalism often seems to run with negative and suspicious stories about Heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Don't ever expect much positive from SBS as long as Les Murray is a key figure in all their football related media. Murray was an ambassador in the Southern Cross bid that was overlooked, don't think he's ever quite gotten over it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Remember the "Heart fail to sign holt" headline and buried amongst the article it casually mentioned victory "missing out" on their signing too. And not to mention all the undertone in their south melbourne take over article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Looks like Garcia is up shit creek without a paddle now. I don't know what he's going to do with himself now, since we've basically been the only club who has showed an intrest in him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 IMO we'll sign a foreign DM and striker first, and if Garcia still hasn't found a club by then we'll probably offer him something a bit more depending on whatever remaining salary space we have I think this is completely the right approach, and I'm glad that Heart appear to be doing this. The fact remains that if we re-signed Garcia, he would have to play as a DM next season. If there's a quality foreign DM, who's played in that position for most of his career (unlike Garcia), why not take him instead? Many supporters have rightly questioned Heart when the club has played players repetitively out of position, so it should be welcomed that we are hesitant to do that again with Garcia. Furthermore, given that Garcia would cost a lot more money, it simply wouldn't be worthwhile to get an expensive player and play that player out of position. After we've secured a proper DM and a striker, then I'd be more than happy for Heart to seriously attempt to re-sign Garcia. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 I think Garcia's upset because they took his face off the Players' website! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Fuck him. We have plenty of midfield option given that we are chasing a defensive midfield. Gol gol and duganzic play on the right side. Now sign Gekas and we are complete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victards Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Fuck him. We have plenty of midfield option given that we are chasing a defensive midfield. Gol gol and duganzic play on the right side. Now sign Gekas and we are complete. You and your greek players, love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sash Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) Yeah it's ok. I've had complete confidence this pre-season ever since we signed Hoffman up nice and early. The club knows what it's doing. Edited August 2, 2013 by Sash 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Fuck him. We have plenty of midfield option given that we are chasing a defensive midfield. Gol gol and duganzic play on the right side. Now sign Gekas and we are complete. You and your greek players, love it. Alright , marko pantelic then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 I hope that he does stay and can come to a satisfactory agreement with the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 (edited) Agree with BG, would be good to re-sign. ...just had a premonition that the tards sign him up to spite us Edited August 2, 2013 by Torn Asunder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 Agree with BG, would be good to re-sign. ...just had a premonition that the tards sign him up to spite us Always feeding off our scraps. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted August 2, 2013 Report Share Posted August 2, 2013 It looks as though the MHFC website is being updated over the past 24 hours or so. Garcia has been removed from the list of players. Velaphi, Ramsay and Kewell added; Wielaert, Murdocca, Mitchinson, Mauk not added yet. The site has been updated again. Mitchinson and Mauk are the only two missing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeVader Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 surely we can fit the best player of last season into the squad? if theres clearly no1 else why the fk wouldnt we want to sign him? he was the only one who looked like he tried every single game last season... plus i bought his badge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozza Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 I told you so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theresonlyonebzamora Posted August 3, 2013 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 surely we can fit the best player of last season into the squad? if theres clearly no1 else why the fk wouldnt we want to sign him? he was the only one who looked like he tried every single game last season... plus i bought his badge. OH NOW COME ON! He bought a badge Richie... HE BOUGHT A FRICKIN BADGE. Surely that's enough to make you stay. A BADGE FOR GODS SAKE 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DukeVader Posted August 3, 2013 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 surely we can fit the best player of last season into the squad? if theres clearly no1 else why the fk wouldnt we want to sign him? he was the only one who looked like he tried every single game last season... plus i bought his badge. OH NOW COME ON! He bought a badge Richie... HE BOUGHT A FRICKIN BADGE. Surely that's enough to make you stay. A BADGE FOR GODS SAKE I had Freds the year before.. now hes gone 2... maybe ill buy Jason Hoffmans this season and hope for the best 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Don't knock the captain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbobbobmarley Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Tell Garcia to piss the fuck off, we won't be some kind of "backup plan". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 "At the moment I'm not too sure what's going to happen with me. Negotiations are on hold so I'm looking for a club, really. So I'm still waiting for them to come back with another offer. But I can't afford to wait around for them to make up their mind. I thought the deal would have been wrapped up by now and I would have already been back in training. From my point of view it was always a case of 'when' I was returning to Melbourne not 'if'. But the about-turn became a spanner in the works and it all happened because apparently they had an opportunity to sign another player. But that's football, I know the business ... and now I'm back to square one." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexDaGroza Posted August 3, 2013 Report Share Posted August 3, 2013 Sounds like the club dont want him anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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