marn11 Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Like that he said he will look at a marquees impact on field first, I don't want a situation where we get a big name that does nothing to fix our problems on the pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baddersss Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 He also said we had '2-3' international spots available. Must mean Josip is in negotiations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 Aloisi takes scalpel to Heart Date April 9, 2013 Michael Lynch John Aloisi has wasted little time in swinging the axe in a postscript to Melbourne Heart's dismal fade-out to the A-League season with several big name players dumped as the club looks to rebuild for the future. Heart will now look to sign what football manager John Didulica described as ''talented experienced players who can help develop our young players and bring us forward. We have 15 players signed for next season and their average age is 22''. The club could have as many as three spots for foreign players on its roster depending on what happens with Croatian striker Josip Tadic, whose future has yet to be determined. And, as chief executive Scott Munn said on Monday, ''the board have agreed to invest more in the playing stocks next season. We operated to the salary cap (floor) and that is something the football department will address. ''Separately we have been told that we can look at higher-profile marquee players on a case-by-case basis if we can make it work, both on the pitch and on a commercial basis.'' Several former captains have been shown the door in one fell swoop. Simon Colosimo, the veteran defender, Matt Thompson, the midfielder who was virtually the club's first signing, and injury-plagued Brazilian marquee player Fred have all been told their contracts will not be renewed. Neither will goalkeeper Clint Bolton, the 37-year-old who won Heart's first two player-of-the-season awards but lost his place this year to emerging shot stopper Andrew Redmayne. The club does, however, want Bolton to remain with it in a non-playing capacity, perhaps involved with corporate and media work. Mate Dugandzic, Jonatan Germano, Nick Kalmar and Sam Mitchinson have all agreed to extend their time with the Heart while 25-year-old winger Iain Ramsay will join the club from Adelaide United. Heart has also jettisoned mid-season signings Marcel Meeuwis, Jamie Coyne and Cameron Edwards. Aloisi, not surprisingly, opted to focus on the positives in a statement announcing Ramsay's signing and the clear-out of the senior men. ''We have a very talented group of younger players who are growing together and Iain will complement them well,'' Aloisi said. ''He has great qualities as a footballer and as a competitor. He is hungry to succeed and will really add an important dimension and depth down the flanks, which we probably lost when Aziz [behich] and Michael [Marrone] left. ''We have also had to make some difficult decisions around a group of players who have been wonderful contributors to Melbourne Heart,'' Aloisi said. ''I was a foundation player of the club and I know first-hand how hard Simon [Colosimo], Matt [Thompson] and Clint [bolton] worked to bring the club to life with their performances and their work off the field,'' he said. ''Fred has also been a great captain for the past two seasons and pushed himself to the limit every training session and every match.'' Richard Garcia, who made a good impression after returning from England, is in talks over a new deal although money is the sticking point. http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/a-league/aloisi-takes-scalpel-to-heart-20130408-2hgmi.html#ixzz2PsBG8Zk5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 interesting that money seems to be the only problem with garcia re-signing. You'd think the club would have a fair bit of money to work with now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heart_fan10 Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/melbourne-heart-axes-four-players-as-club-looks-to-rebound-from-worst-ever-finish/story-fndmchp2-1226615075074 UPDATE: MELBOURNE Heart has cleared the decks for some big-money arrivals after axing four veterans today. Captain Fred, inaugural captain Simon Colosimo, vice-captain Matt Thompson and keeper Clint Bolton were told their contracts wouldn't be renewed in meetings with coach John Aloisi and football operations manager John Didulica. While Bolton took a pay-cut last year, the other three were among the club's biggest earners. Their release frees up about $800,000, paving the way for a marquee signing. It leaves Heart with just two foundation players (Nick Kalmar and Eli Babalj), although Babalj is keen to return to Europe, while Jason Hoffman is set to re-sign on close to the minimum wage. Outgoing captain Fred said he was told a contract would be offered months ago but believed injuries forced a change of heart. "I'm very disappointed, I've been professional and I think I've helped the club," Fred said. "They told me before 'we want to keep you but we have to talk about money' but they changed their mind, maybe because of injuries. "It was my worst year as a professional, but I will keep playing. I still feel I have many years left and next year will be much better." Bolton conceded he wasn't shocked and is considering swapping the gloves for a suit. "I've had time to digest it all and I understand the club's position," Bolton said. "Ultimately, I judge myself on success and our performances over the last three years haven't been good enough, so I feel myself and we, as a playing group, have failed. "Playing on, it's just a case of if there is an offer I'll see if it's the right offer in the right environment. "I want to explore the business and corporate side of clubs. It's something that really interests me and they've tentatively offered me something within the club. We'll discuss (it) in the coming weeks." Eli Babalj, Mate Dugandzic, Ben Garuccio, Patrick Gerhardt, Jonatan Germano, Nick Kalmar, Dylan Macallister, Stefan Mauk, Golgol Mebrahtu, Sam Mitchinson, Iain Ramsay, Andrew Redmayne, David Vrankovic, Jeremy Walker and David Williams are the 15 players signed for next season, while negotiations continue with Richard Garcia, Josip Tadic and Hoffman. Coach John Aloisi conceded it was a hard call. "We have had to make some difficult decisions around a group of players who have been wonderful contributors to Melbourne Heart," Aloisi said. "I was a foundation player of the club and I know first-hand how hard Simon [Colosimo], Matt [Thompson] and Clint [bolton] worked to bring the club to life with their performances and their work off the field. "Fred has also been a great captain for the past two seasons and pushed himself to the limit every training session and every match. "I know I speak on behalf of all the club's staff and members that we will always be thankful for their contribution." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 interesting that money seems to be the only problem with garcia re-signing. You'd think the club would have a fair bit of money to work with now. wouldnt want to give him more than we have to though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted April 8, 2013 Report Share Posted April 8, 2013 interesting that money seems to be the only problem with garcia re-signing. You'd think the club would have a fair bit of money to work with now. well Richie might have a cunt of a manager who is asking a stupid price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 interesting that money seems to be the only problem with garcia re-signing. You'd think the club would have a fair bit of money to work with now. well Richie might have a cunt of a manager who is asking a stupid price? Perhaps. But Heart has lost out on a number of quality signing because we won't, or at least haven't in the past, go into a bidding war against other clubs. The downside of this approach is that other clubs will pay the money and as a result get the players that allow your club to finish above 9th. If we don't go in hard for Garcia, I hope the football department has a suitable replacement in mind so we are not picking up the scraps a few weeks before next season starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Don't get your hopes up about Garcia sticking around. He's now as good as gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Don't get your hopes up about Garcia sticking around. He's now as good as gone. to perth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Don't get your hopes up about Garcia sticking around. He's now as good as gone. Got sources or just speculating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natalie182 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 If we lose Garcia and keep Hoffman I think I will cry. All the good work done yesterday by the club will be undone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) If we lose Garcia and keep Hoffman I think I will cry. All the good work done yesterday by the club will be undone. I think Hoffman is paying the club to stay. Edited April 9, 2013 by Tony999 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murfy1 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 (edited) If we lose Garcia and keep Hoffman I think I will cry. All the good work done yesterday by the club will be undone. That's being overly dramatic. I fully expected the club to resign Thompson (probably for 1 year) and Bolton (to use as a backup keeper and goalkeeping coach for Redmayne). Some real big moves took place yesterday, and even if we signed Hoffman that couldn't minimise the vital housecleaning that took place. As for Garcia, it looks like the club will sign him if his price is decent. Unfortunately, because the team performed so badly last season and finished 9th, they made Garcia look like a superstar. So Garcia has a lot of leverage to negotiate with, meaning Heart might have to pay a small fortune to re-sign him. I'm very optimistic that we would find a solid replacement for Garcia as well. I believe Heart is getting much better at signing players, as shown by Heart managing to secure Garcia, Gerhardt, Tadic and Vrankovic last season on a shoe-string budget. With even more money to throw around this time, I reckon Heart can easily sign up two or three players that can be quality regular starters, like what Garcia, Tadic and Gerhardt were for us this season. Edited April 9, 2013 by Murfy1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theresonlyonebzamora Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 Bravo murfy well said 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 If we lose Garcia and keep Hoffman I think I will cry. All the good work done yesterday by the club will be undone. That's being overly dramatic. I fully expected the club to resign Thompson (probably for 1 year) and Bolton (to use as a backup keeper and goalkeeping coach for Redmayne). Some real big moves took place yesterday, and even if we signed Hoffman that couldn't minimise the vital housecleaning that took place. As for Garcia, it looks like the club will sign him if his price is decent. Unfortunately, because the team performed so badly last season and finished 9th, they made Garcia look like a superstar. So Garcia has a lot of leverage to negotiate with, meaning Heart might have to pay a small fortune to re-sign him. I'm very optimistic that we would find a solid replacement for Garcia as well. I believe Heart is getting much better at signing players, as shown by Heart managing to secure Garcia, Gerhardt, Tadic and Vrankovic last season on a shoe-string budget. With even more money to throw around this time, I reckon Heart can easily sign up two or three players that can be quality regular starters, like what Garcia, Tadic and Gerhardt were for us this season. Couldn't agree more. He played great in a bad season which would make him look a whole lot better. One trait we need of his is his work ethic and leadership on the feild. We shouldn't throw the bank at him and think he is replaceable. Although I say this and he will probably go to Perth and tear the league apart now ahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natalie182 Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 As a girl I think I'm allowed to be a little illogical and dramatic about my football team! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexandro Posted April 9, 2013 Report Share Posted April 9, 2013 As a girl I think I'm allowed to be a little illogical and dramatic about my football team! I think this forum proves that men can be just as illogical and emotional as women... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Not directly related to MHFC but look whats in today's paper. Herald Sun of course. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/police-consider-afl-bans-on-soccer-hooligans/story-fnat79vb-1226617741596 I wonder if they will ban the AFL thugs? Especially at Collingwood - Carlton games? Or perhaps those scenes "pumps up the crowd" at AFL games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviant Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Not directly related to MHFC but look whats in today's paper. Herald Sun of course. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/police-consider-afl-bans-on-soccer-hooligans/story-fnat79vb-1226617741596 I wonder if they will ban the AFL thugs? Especially at Collingwood - Carlton games? Or perhaps those scenes "pumps up the crowd" at AFL games. For those without digital passes: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/police-consider-afl-bans-on-soccer-hooligans/story-e6frg6n6-1226617741596 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millm103 Posted April 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Again not associated with MHFC but good read on the A League http://m.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2013/04/how-to-make-americans-love-soccer-just-copy-australia/274733/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommykins Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 That article could not have fewer facts in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzatron Posted April 10, 2013 Report Share Posted April 10, 2013 Not directly related to MHFC but look whats in today's paper. Herald Sun of course. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/police-consider-afl-bans-on-soccer-hooligans/story-fnat79vb-1226617741596 I wonder if they will ban the AFL thugs? Especially at Collingwood - Carlton games? Or perhaps those scenes "pumps up the crowd" at AFL games. For those without digital passes: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/police-consider-afl-bans-on-soccer-hooligans/story-e6frg6n6-1226617741596 If you get ejected from of a particular stadium for bad behaviour and as a result barred from that stadium, I dont think that its unreasonable to be barred from all events whether it be sports, concerts or otherwise. Whether its Football, AFL or Rugby, your behaviour is your responsibility. In fact I'm surprised that the FFA bans only go as far as FFA sanctioned events, for example, if you get ejected from a football match at Etihad, why would Etihad management want you back for an AFL game in the winter? Is there a governing body that covers all of these sporting events? Are the bans handed out by the stadium tenants(FFA), not actually recognised by stadium management? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviant Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 and what if you wanna buy tickets to an event, is your name black listed on the server? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 What if you are in the Carltonz Cheer Squad? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzatron Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 and what if you wanna buy tickets to an event, is your name black listed on the server? Everyone knows that you dont need to buy tickets yourself to be able to obtain tickets to an event. They would need to do some sort of facial recognition at the gate. Obviously its hard to police in large crowds like AFL or a concert, but thats the job of security isnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviant Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 What if you are in the Carltonz Cheer Squad? Racism is not tolerated.... Pending who you talk to I don't know whether to be hurt or LMFAO hahahahaahah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviant Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 and what if you wanna buy tickets to an event, is your name black listed on the server? Everyone knows that you dont need to buy tickets yourself to be able to obtain tickets to an event. They would need to do some sort of facial recognition at the gate. Obviously its hard to police in large crowds like AFL or a concert, but thats the job of security isnt it? Surely they're (media) just blowing it up like they always do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 and what if you wanna buy tickets to an event, is your name black listed on the server? Everyone knows that you dont need to buy tickets yourself to be able to obtain tickets to an event. They would need to do some sort of facial recognition at the gate. Obviously its hard to police in large crowds like AFL or a concert, but thats the job of security isnt it? I reckon that a general "No Dickheads" rule could do wonders at the MCG for Dawks games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deviant Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 and what if you wanna buy tickets to an event, is your name black listed on the server? Everyone knows that you dont need to buy tickets yourself to be able to obtain tickets to an event. They would need to do some sort of facial recognition at the gate. Obviously its hard to police in large crowds like AFL or a concert, but thats the job of security isnt it? I reckon that a general "No Dickheads" rule could do wonders at the MCG for Dawks games. Would eliminate 3/4 of their supporter base lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiz.heart Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 what a load of shit. herald scum is just trying draw some negative press away from the racist supporters at the blues vs pies match and essendon doping allegations. so they just find a negative story on our game and stick it on the front page. muppets.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedaik Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 what a load of shit. herald scum is just trying draw some negative press away from the racist supporters at the blues vs pies match and essendon doping allegations. so they just find a negative story on our game and stick it on the front page. muppets.. Why are the AFL doping allegations on the front page, and the racist supporters on page 3 of yesterdays paper if Herald Sun are trying to draw attention away from it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kingofhearts Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Honestly i think this article doesn't go far ENOUGH. We need to deport these people who misbehave at sokkah matches. Send them to some third world country for doing such mischievous things such as: -Lighting flairs -Standing on chairs -Swearing Don't they understand that there bringing down society with the reckless actions??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kingofhearts Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Do they still sell this shit??? Use to drink it like it was my blood sauce when i was young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cadete Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Do they still sell this shit??? Use to drink it like it was my blood sauce when i was young Yes - And drinking it is NOT A CRIME! Note: Neither is drinking Kirks Pasito. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 (edited) what a load of shit. herald scum is just trying draw some negative press away from the racist supporters at the blues vs pies match and essendon doping allegations. so they just find a negative story on our game and stick it on the front page. muppets.. Why are the AFL doping allegations on the front page, and the racist supporters on page 3 of yesterdays paper if Herald Sun are trying to draw attention away from it? Mate, it's business as usual when bad stories come out of AFL. It is forgotten in a blkink of an eye. How many times do AFL players go on their end of season trips and tare up the place? Not to mention they are giving Australian's a bad name. Or what about the 3-strikes drug rule the AFL has? Take some e's but that's ok you will only get a strike against your name. Even better one, if an AFL player admits to taking ellicit drugs they don't get a strike. Take some illegal cold tablets in an A-league game and it will be all over the news. Edited April 11, 2013 by Tony999 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 Not directly related to MHFC but look whats in today's paper. Herald Sun of course. http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/police-consider-afl-bans-on-soccer-hooligans/story-fnat79vb-1226617741596 I wonder if they will ban the AFL thugs? Especially at Collingwood - Carlton games? Or perhaps those scenes "pumps up the crowd" at AFL games. For those without digital passes: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/police-consider-afl-bans-on-soccer-hooligans/story-e6frg6n6-1226617741596 If you get ejected from of a particular stadium for bad behaviour and as a result barred from that stadium, I dont think that its unreasonable to be barred from all events whether it be sports, concerts or otherwise. Whether its Football, AFL or Rugby, your behaviour is your responsibility. In fact I'm surprised that the FFA bans only go as far as FFA sanctioned events, for example, if you get ejected from a football match at Etihad, why would Etihad management want you back for an AFL game in the winter? Is there a governing body that covers all of these sporting events? Are the bans handed out by the stadium tenants(FFA), not actually recognised by stadium management? If that is the case then AFL games wouldn't have half of their supporters with the amount of bogans that get kicked out of cricket games. I'm sure those bogans attend AFL games before A-league games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzatron Posted April 11, 2013 Report Share Posted April 11, 2013 If whats the case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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