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40 minutes ago, Harrison said:

Maybe the 120K club members. 

Or is that a conspiracy too?

What are you on about and what's the reasoning for placing conspiracy in your question? 

1 hour ago, jw1739 said:

I read it as A-League fans.

Hmm yeah I think that might be the case... Does the league even have that many members across the board? Reckon we'd be lucky to have just north of 100K memebers.

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1 hour ago, MHFC-FAN said:

What are you on about and what's the reasoning for placing conspiracy in your question? 

Hmm yeah I think that might be the case... Does the league even have that many members across the board? Reckon we'd be lucky to have just north of 100K memebers.

Was you in the other thread that said something about not believing crap by MSM. Or were you joking?

There are 120K club members. Not sure why you’re then ignoring that part of my post. 

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On 06/08/2020 at 4:42 PM, jw1739 said:

Any extreme weather will affect both the football and the attendance. My point really is that the League needs to think very carefully about what it is trying to achieve when it considers - if it considers - changing the season from what we have been used to in recent times. At this stage I can't see that a change to winter will improve physical attendances or on-line interest from what it is now.

Well it cant get really lower than it is imo. So its a bit of what is there to lose situation, plus summer is only going to get worse.  The one advantage Aleauge has over the other codes is that they can appeal outside of Australia. So if we move to winter, not only are we aligning with the entire pyramid in Aus but we are also competing against 'lesser' leagues for international audiences.

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On 08/08/2020 at 6:13 AM, Dylan said:

Well it cant get really lower than it is imo. So its a bit of what is there to lose situation, plus summer is only going to get worse.  The one advantage Aleauge has over the other codes is that they can appeal outside of Australia. So if we move to winter, not only are we aligning with the entire pyramid in Aus but we are also competing against 'lesser' leagues for international audiences.

Also aligning with Asia, so effectively below and above, just makes sense. 

Issue though is for a fan it will suck big time, watching games in the middle of winter isn't pleasant.  

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23 hours ago, Jovan said:

Also aligning with Asia, so effectively below and above, just makes sense. 

Issue though is for a fan it will suck big time, watching games in the middle of winter isn't pleasant.  

Well I think the bigger issue is grounds. We basically have one ground in vic between 3 clubs. I doubt that would work with them all playing the same time

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On 10/08/2020 at 7:15 AM, Dylan said:

Well I think the bigger issue is grounds. We basically have one ground in vic between 3 clubs. I doubt that would work with them all playing the same time

Also if we play in winter then how are clubs going to play mid-week FFA cup and ACL mid-week as well?? 

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13 minutes ago, MHFC-FAN said:

Also if we play in winter then how are clubs going to play mid-week FFA cup and ACL mid-week as well?? 

Players should be capable of playing two matches a week. However, I doubt that AAMI Park could stand up to two rugby codes, three football clubs and other events if we're all playing at the same time of the year. I wonder about keeping the competition roughly where it is now but having a one-month break in February? Much like some Euro leagues have a break in mid-winter.

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1 hour ago, jw1739 said:

FFA/A-League/clubs need to keep everyone informed about what the hell is going on about next season. The silence is deafening. Even if there's nothing much to say - even if there's nothing to say - fans need to be in the loop.

Saw an article a couple days ago, conveniently I cannot find it now... However it was from late August and mentioned that they are looking at starting the next season early 2021. It was subject to the kung flu etc. Apparently the broadcast deal with fox ends on July 16th...if we can't sign a new deal shortly then the season will need to start no later than Jan/Feb. 

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FFA targeting $40m boost to game with 'crucial' transfer overhaul

By Dominic Bossi

September 28, 2020 — 3.46pm

FFA are set to begin the process for the overhaul of Australia's transfer system, aimed to rapidly accelerate player development that will pump a potential $40 million in transfer revenue into the domestic game every year.

In the coming weeks, the organisation will release its proposals for drastic changes to Australia's domestic transfer regulations and approach to the international transfer market that could turn the taps on the most ignored revenue stream available to the game.

At a time when Australian football has suffered loss of broadcast revenue, sponsorship and match-day revenue, FFA chief James Johnson has described a change in philosophy towards player development and sales as "crucial" for the the A-League's future.

One of the primary items on a white paper to be released next month will be the introduction of a domestic transfer system – a first in the A-League era – that will allow clubs to buy and sell players like the rest of world football. The document will also cover training compensation fees, transfer fees, agent accreditation and regulations, the timing of transfer windows within the season and the alignment of the A-League with the winter-run state leagues.

"In a number of weeks, we will begin a consultation process with our stakeholders – the clubs, the players of course through the PFA, the NPL clubs and our competition administrators," FFA chief James Johnson said. "We will put the key components of a transfer system and some ideas we have in form of a white paper so we could start discussing some of these issues."

The proposals and consultation process are aimed at achieving two targets; creating an internal domestic transfer economy and increasing Australia's international transfer revenue at least 15-fold.Last year, Australia was ranked just eighth in Asia in terms of transfer revenue received, behind Iraq and the UAE. Australian clubs collected just US$1.9 million (2.69 million) in international transfer fees last year, just six per cent of the collective sum Japanese clubs received (US$29.4 million) and seven per cent of South Korea's outbound player sales (US$26.6 million).

The A-League's aim of matching Japan's transfer revenue could clubs rake in more than $40m a year.

FFA's plan to bridge the gap between Australia and Japan hinges on improving the quality of the A-League, providing more match minutes to young Australian players, encouraging longer periods of contracting and potentially realigning the schedule of the A-League season and transfer windows with the state-based National Premier Leagues.

The governing body could flag a reduction in foreign player quotas to four per team to encourage local player development, as well as incentives around home-grown players and allowing Australian clubs to buy and sell players with one another. The latter is hoped to lead to longer-term contracting that will increase player value on the global transfer market. Currently, a third of A-League players enter the July-August transfer window as free agents in any given year.

"If we are developing the product, if we get our systems set-up correctly to hard wire our domestic system into the international system and we do our player development in parallel, you will see that [transfer revenue] increase substantially and pretty quickly," Johnson said. "In addition to that, the domestic transfer system will also create its own market and that will be a different revenue stream from the international revenues that come in."

FFA will also run transfer education programs for all clubs, including NPL teams, on matters around training compensation fees for junior players and ways to increase player value on the transfer market.

"If we can create a better understanding of the connection of a player's age and the number of minutes that the player is playing in the A-League, and be able to demonstrate to the clubs the increase in value then of players in the international market, you can then incentives clubs commercially to play players more often because they will see the value of their squad increase," Johnson said.

 

 
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1 minute ago, jw1739 said:

 

"...after becoming disenfranchised with the culture of the game in Australia, blaming a lack of respect for players..."

"He said the bulk of his career had been spent bickering over pay or work conditions but the latest row proved the final straw."

 

Somehow I think going into law isn't going to be much different....

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21 hours ago, jw1739 said:

And I'm not sure where to put this, but this sort of thing doesn't help the game:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-11-25/second-whistleblower-attacks-football-queensland-governance/12910828

Football in this country has specialised in own goals and that’s another one.

Is he over paid? Maybe, but the worst of it seems the legal action with the 40k consulting fee second.

Put all 3 together and it’s a disaster for the game. Might be best if they all resign (which doesn’t sound like it’s about to happen)

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4 minutes ago, KSK_47 said:

Can someone explain to me what the APL is exactly?

The A-League and W-League will enter the new year as part of a bold new structure, with their historic "unbundling" from Football Australia finally confirmed and the "shackles" on domestic soccer's potential released at long last.

More than three years after FIFA peacekeepers were sent to intervene in an ugly war between club owners and Steven Lowy's administration over the A-League's independence, Football Australia's board met on Thursday to ratify the split, which the clubs believe gives them control over their own destinies for the first time and the platform to invest the necessary sums to revive the ailing competition.

 

It brings to an end a lengthy, often tortuous negotiation between the two parties, although tensions persisted about the timing of the announcement and even the wording of the final press release until almost the moment it was sent.

The country's top men's and women's divisions will now be run by an organisation called Australian Professional Leagues, headed at executive level by Greg O'Rourke, who will serve as commissioner.

O'Rourke will report to an APL board consisting of five club representatives, one FA representative and three independents, one of whom, with FA's final approval, will chair the new organisation.

Western Sydney Wanderers owner and interim APL chairman Paul Lederer said it was now time for the clubs to deliver on their vision.

We're going to deliver something that is absolutely phenomenal and every bone in my body believes in it.

"Let me put it into one word: euphoric," Lederer said. "It's an absolute game-changer and a historical moment for our game.

"It's a monumental change in direction; great for the fans, great for the players, our commercial partners and excellent for the whole game.

It's been a long road and a hell of a long negotiation, but it's well worth it. We've waited years for this; the game has been in this state for too many years to remember. "The shackles are off. We don't have to listen to someone about how to do it, when to do it, where to do it ... now we just do it. We're going to deliver something that is absolutely phenomenal and every bone in my body believes in it." The split gives the A-League clubs the operational and commercial independence they have been fighting for, but FA will still retain significant regulatory oversight of the professional game, allowing it to set football's broader strategic agenda. Under the agreement, FA will have the final say on the timing of the A-League and W-League seasons, expansion, contraction, club licensing criteria and how clubs will be granted access to the top domestic and international competitions – although the intention is for the APL to be involved in a meaningful consultation process on all of those points. It means FA will have the ultimate power to implement promotion and relegation in the A-League, although there is no commitment to do so at a particular time, and work is continuing on a financially viable model for a national second division. While club owners were initially keen on an English Premier League-style split, which would have given them a much broader sense of self-determination, the end result is similar to how the J.League and Chinese Super League function in tandem with their national federations. "Each constituent now has defined roles and responsibilities, and the ability to make the right contribution to the growth of the professional game," FA chief executive James Johnson said. "We have been able to create a unique model, which draws upon global best practice whilst allowing for local specificities." But while FA and the APL are now separate, and happy for that to be the case, both organisations are likely to enter the broadcast rights market in 2021 as a partnership.

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21 hours ago, KSK_47 said:

Can someone explain to me what the APL is exactly?

@KSK_47 Of course, you could well ask, after you've cut through all the bullshit, such as "...global best practice whilst allowing for local specificities" (WTF does that mean?) just what exactly is going to change. As far as I can see, FA is going to have the final say on many things. So is it real change, or perhaps more of an additional set of offices at HQ and another set of administrators sucking money out of the game?

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1 hour ago, jw1739 said:

I don't see any justification whatsoever for having an "Indigenous Round" in the A-League. What are the clubs supposed to do differently in that particular "round"? It's just tokenism. 

But tokenism is so much easier and cheaper than running programmes for indigenous involvement in the beautiful game

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On 01/01/2021 at 2:53 PM, jw1739 said:

@KSK_47 Of course, you could well ask, after you've cut through all the bullshit, such as "...global best practice whilst allowing for local specificities" (WTF does that mean?) just what exactly is going to change. As far as I can see, FA is going to have the final say on many things. So is it real change, or perhaps more of an additional set of offices at HQ and another set of administrators sucking money out of the game?

The club owners have been banging on about all they could do if “only they were in charge of their own destiny”.

Well now they are, so they are out of excuses. 
Actually I think they might go better than the FFA. For one, they have nowhere to turn if they fail, that’s always a good motivator.

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