The Coronavirus Thread (We nearly didn't see City in the 2021 Grand Final)

[Young Polak]

On 24/03/2020 at 5:29 PM, HeartFc said:

@playmaker Ok I've got an angle for you. This is a Chinese bio-weapon in response to losing the trade war against Trump. The Chinese economy was on the brink of collapse, American economy some what recovering, CCP did not what that on their record. Wuhan of course being the perfect place due to the "hidden in plain sight" of their top virology lab. Once  exposed as a man made virus they can say it "escaped" their "research site" in Wuhan by "mistake", oops. It was spread world wide and quickly controlled locally due to their cultural expectance of draconian government control. That and the obvious advantage of having a vaccine. This type of crack down would not work in the West and China knew this and took advantage of it. The CCP tried to suppress any information about the virus by threaten and locking up anyone who talked about it. Russia might've been given a heads up too due to their incredibly quick response in closing the border, second behind mongolia I believe. Currently 438/1 case/death rate from a 150mil population, pretty good. 

The virus is now crippling the world economy, including China's, however China doesn't play by the rules so I think they'll artificially recover and continue to cook the books. I'm unsure of the long game here but this may very well be our Franz Fredinand moment. Are we seeing the beginning of the WW3? 

My angle, 

America designed this virus and released it into china to hold them up for the blame, caused a worldwide epidemic to slowly enable martial law in the U.S. This enables Trump and his military backing to access the sealed documents based on people in the higher ups connected to the deep state to be arrested.

Celebrities who are being diagnosed with corna virus is an alternate covid-19 strain planted in the Adrenochrome stock for those to be later exposed from Epstein's child trafficking and harvesting their adrenal glands on his paedophile island. Case in point: Prince Andrew is now known to be associated with Epstein's child prostitution. Prince Charles is now diagnosed with covid-19 where he literally is isolated in his palace all the time, how can he contact it?. COINCIDENCE? only a matter of time until Prince Andrew may be diagnosed as well, or he stopped his activities while Prince Charles continued.

can't wait for the celebrities to be arrested alongside Killary Clinton and Obama

Economy collapsing? this is only to destabilise the financial power of the Rothschilds and the Rockerfellas. Hence why JFK was assassinated. But Trump wont end up being assassinated in this digital age and with a strong backing by the military.

The swamp will be drained slowly but eventually

Thoughts @playmaker??

Edited March 25, 2020 by Young Polak

[bt50]

6 hours ago, Young Polak said:

My angle, 

America designed this virus and released it into china to hold them up for the blame, caused a worldwide epidemic to slowly enable martial law in the U.S. This enables Trump and his military backing to access the sealed documents based on people in the higher ups connected to the deep state to be arrested.

Celebrities who are being diagnosed with corna virus is an alternate covid-19 strain planted in the Adrenochrome stock for those to be later exposed from Epstein's child trafficking and harvesting their adrenal glands on his paedophile island. Case in point: Prince Andrew is now known to be associated with Epstein's child prostitution. Prince Charles is now diagnosed with covid-19 where he literally is isolated in his palace all the time, how can he contact it?. COINCIDENCE? only a matter of time until Prince Andrew may be diagnosed as well, or he stopped his activities while Prince Charles continued.

can't wait for the celebrities to be arrested alongside Killary Clinton and Obama

Economy collapsing? this is only to destabilise the financial power of the Rothschilds and the Rockerfellas. Hence why JFK was assassinated. But Trump wont end up being assassinated in this digital age and with a strong backing by the military.

The swamp will be drained slowly but eventually

Thoughts @playmaker??

[HeartFc]

That's probably more in playmakers ball park to be honest. 

In other news, Italy and Spain are on the brink of complete and utter collapse. Consistently losing 700 lives per day and casing are mounting like crazy. At current rate both will end up with a 1,000,000 cases and 100,000 deaths by end of April. 

Lets hope these isolation measures slow it down coz its looking really really bad!

 

[haz]

17 minutes ago, HeartFc said:

That's probably more in playmakers ball park to be honest. 

In other news, Italy and Spain are on the brink of complete and utter collapse. Consistently losing 700 lives per day and casing are mounting like crazy. At current rate both will end up with a 1,000,000 cases and 100,000 deaths by end of April. 

Lets hope these isolation measures slow it down coz its looking really really bad!

 

Italy seems to be slowing it down. Just from observing the log graph, doesn't look it will hit 1M.

Spain on the other hand isn't as good.

Edited March 25, 2020 by haz

[haz]

This is the graph for Australia. 360 additional cases, 3 more deaths (11 total), and no change in serious cases.

 

[Harrison]

9 hours ago, Young Polak said:

My angle, 

America designed this virus and released it into china to hold them up for the blame, caused a worldwide epidemic to slowly enable martial law in the U.S. This enables Trump and his military backing to access the sealed documents based on people in the higher ups connected to the deep state to be arrested.

Celebrities who are being diagnosed with corna virus is an alternate covid-19 strain planted in the Adrenochrome stock for those to be later exposed from Epstein's child trafficking and harvesting their adrenal glands on his paedophile island. Case in point: Prince Andrew is now known to be associated with Epstein's child prostitution. Prince Charles is now diagnosed with covid-19 where he literally is isolated in his palace all the time, how can he contact it?. COINCIDENCE? only a matter of time until Prince Andrew may be diagnosed as well, or he stopped his activities while Prince Charles continued.

can't wait for the celebrities to be arrested alongside Killary Clinton and Obama

Economy collapsing? this is only to destabilise the financial power of the Rothschilds and the Rockerfellas. Hence why JFK was assassinated. But Trump wont end up being assassinated in this digital age and with a strong backing by the military.

The swamp will be drained slowly but eventually

Thoughts @playmaker??

Ridiculous. This is complete nonsense. 

How can you expect me to believe this when you haven’t even considered the round earth conspiracy? Bill Gates basically created the coronavirus years ago, he even patented it as per earlier playmaker scholarship in this thread, and is obviously in bed with billionaire round earthers like Musk whose rocket is now curiously ‘delayed’ for the 10th time. Surprise surprise.

Now I’m having a hard time connecting the dots between Musk, Gates and the virus because early on Musk said that children were immune to it. Now to your Epstein point, clearly immunity to children would be ideal because they need healthy children for their pedophile island. What’s another phrase for this pedophile island that the Klintons and royal family are a part of? Pedophile RING. Ring. Circular. Spherical. ROUND EARTH. It’s so fucking obvious. Wake up people.

But why would Musk then want to build ventilators to help control the pandemic? Why the sudden change of heart? Something doesn’t add up here. One theory I have is the ventilators are not really ventilators but machines designed to give people the virus. Spreading it is their primary goal.

We’re so close right now. Keep looking.

[jw1739]

I can't see "social distancing" being effective. Observation this morning suggests about 50% of people are trying, but some supermarket aisles are just too narrow for it to be possible in many cases. It's also difficult at the checkout, and there were no staff there to police it at two supermarkets this morning. And uncontrolled children and parents with uncontrolled children don't help at all.

[HeartFc]

2 hours ago, haz said:

Italy seems to be slowing it down. Just from observing the log graph, doesn't look it will hit 1M.

 

 

No shit! Good news. I totally missed the logarithmic.

[Young Polak]

1 hour ago, Harrison said:

Ridiculous. This is complete nonsense. 

How can you expect me to believe this when you haven’t even considered the round earth conspiracy? Bill Gates basically created the coronavirus years ago, he even patented it as per earlier playmaker scholarship in this thread, and is obviously in bed with billionaire round earthers like Musk whose rocket is now curiously ‘delayed’ for the 10th time. Surprise surprise.

Now I’m having a hard time connecting the dots between Musk, Gates and the virus because early on Musk said that children were immune to it. Now to your Epstein point, clearly immunity to children would be ideal because they need healthy children for their pedophile island. What’s another phrase for this pedophile island that the Klintons and royal family are a part of? Pedophile RING. Ring. Circular. Spherical. ROUND EARTH. It’s so fucking obvious. Wake up people.

But why would Musk then want to build ventilators to help control the pandemic? Why the sudden change of heart? Something doesn’t add up here. One theory I have is the ventilators are not really ventilators but machines designed to give people the virus. Spreading it is their primary goal.

We’re so close right now. Keep looking.

It's all about dat der Adrenochrome brah


  

Edited March 26, 2020 by Young Polak

[Harrison]

5 minutes ago, Young Polak said:

It's all about dat der Adrenochrome brah

It also cures baldness by stimulating hair growth. How else to explain Musk? Irrefutable.

Also working on something now. Bit more speculative so can’t say too much. This Fauci guy in America, ‘advising’ Trump, ‘medical expert in diseases’. Clearly Italian, from Naples, Catholic...looking into the connection with Rothschilds. Possible link here but might be too obvious. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_loans_to_the_Holy_See

Trying to get this verified by QAnon though. I’ll let you know when I know more.

[belaguttman]

4 hours ago, Harrison said:

Bill Gates basically created the coronavirus years ago,

If he had, it would have crashed with the Blue Screen of Death half way through it's first infection

[HeartFc]

woah woah woah... Hold on a second... if you combine these 2 theories you see something truly horrifying... buckle up guys...

 

We're currently reaching boiling point in terms of Covid-19. It keeps multiplying...

"There is an old saying: If you want to hide the treasure, put it in plain sight. Then no one will see it" - Larry Dossey.

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Boiling point of Adrenochrome: 115c

115 x 119 (Sep 11th - Phase 1 of the NWO) = 13685

13685 x 19 (Covid-19 - Phase 2 of the NWO) = 260015 

260015 x 89 (89' George Bush Sr becomes President)  "Out of these troubled times, our…objective - a New World Order - can emerge…" - George Bush Sr 

= 23141335

I used this number to hack the CCP norton mainframe using DOS rebooting in safe mode and extracted the evidence I needed. This link leads to the source of a recent leak of CCP documents showing this was a government planned bio-weapon with backing of the NWO: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.23.20026864v1.full.pdf 

In this document is the source link, you'll find it on page... you guessed it 13. Under the following heading:

3. National Health Commission of PRC: Feb 23: Daily briefing on novel coronavirus cases in China. http://ennhcgovcn/2020-02/23/c_76779htm.

See that bolded number in the source link...  76779 ...yep Hilters favourite number.

23141335  + 76779 =

 

23218114

This all leads to mysterious 8 digit number... why 8 digits? Its a lucky number in China, its too obvious right? Almost like its hidden in.. yep... plain sight... What else is in plain sight?Hrmm.. a bio-weapon released in a city in China where they have their top virology lab...

(8 digit number: Eight is a symbol of infinity and a constant flow of energy and power. It is often related to material wealth, money, and success in business. Also, number 8 is representing pleasures, and the dark side of this figure is just that – excessive usage of vices.)

Now to de-code this number 8 digit number using the Larry Dossey method and you'll come full circle... the easiest and the most "hidden in plain sight method", the cipher alphabet method:

23-21-8-1-14

 

HOLY FUCK

....

....

....

 

....

......

 

 

 

W U H A N 

Edited March 26, 2020 by HeartFc

[haz]

1 hour ago, HeartFc said:

woah woah woah... Hold on a second... if you combine these 2 theories you see something truly horrifying... buckle up guys...

 

We're currently reaching boiling point in terms of Covid-19. It keeps multiplying...

"There is an old saying: If you want to hide the treasure, put it in plain sight. Then no one will see it" - Larry Dossey.

--------------

Boiling point of Adrenochrome: 115c

115 x 119 (Sep 11th - Phase 1 of the NWO) = 13685

13685 x 19 (Covid-19 - Phase 2 of the NWO) = 260015 

260015 x 89 (89' George Bush Sr becomes President)  "Out of these troubled times, our…objective - a New World Order - can emerge…" - George Bush Sr 

= 23141335

I used this number to hack the CCP norton mainframe using DOS rebooting in safe mode and extracted the evidence I needed. This link leads to the source of a recent leak of CCP documents showing this was a government planned bio-weapon with backing of the NWO: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.23.20026864v1.full.pdf 

In this document is the source link, you'll find it on page... you guessed it 13. Under the following heading:

3. National Health Commission of PRC: Feb 23: Daily briefing on novel coronavirus cases in China. http://ennhcgovcn/2020-02/23/c_76779htm.

See that bolded number in the source link...  76779 ...yep Hilters favourite number.

23141335  + 76779 =

 

23218114

This all leads to mysterious 8 digit number... why 8 digits? Its a lucky number in China, its too obvious right? Almost like its hidden in.. yep... plain sight... What else is in plain sight?Hrmm.. a bio-weapon released in a city in China where they have their top virology lab...

(8 digit number: Eight is a symbol of infinity and a constant flow of energy and power. It is often related to material wealth, money, and success in business. Also, number 8 is representing pleasures, and the dark side of this figure is just that – excessive usage of vices.)

Now to de-code this number 8 digit number using the Larry Dossey method and you'll come full circle... the easiest and the most "hidden in plain sight method", the cipher alphabet method:

23-21-8-1-14

 

HOLY FUCK

....

....

....

 

....

......

 

 

 

W U H A N 

Mate you've been in isolation too long 😂

[Young Polak]

1 hour ago, HeartFc said:

woah woah woah... Hold on a second... if you combine these 2 theories you see something truly horrifying... buckle up guys...

 

@haz outrageous to think it's coincidental.

[Harrison]

15 minutes ago, Young Polak said:

@haz outrageous to think it's coincidental.

All I’m saying is...where is the proof that this is not true. Give me the proof. These anti conspiracist sheeple idiots don’t have a single shred of evidence to disprove these theories. 

[Young Polak]

9 minutes ago, Harrison said:

All I’m saying is...where is the proof that this is not true. Give me the proof. These anti conspiracist sheeple idiots don’t have a single shred of evidence to disprove these theories. 

just the common shills within our community 

[HeartFc]

4 hours ago, haz said:

Mate you've been in isolation too long 😂

Yes but its also given me time to research and be prepared for the impending world war. I just finished building an awesome fort out of sheets and chairs in my office. I'm using it as my Anti Covid-19 Command Centre. 

[malloy]

But seriously, how do I get me some of those hair loss reversing drugs? 

Asking for a friend...

Edited March 26, 2020 by malloy

[HeartFc]

BTW for all the doubters, below is a photo of ebay purchase history (note pad to show its my computer). I've been prepared since November.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/13/first-covid-19-case-happened-in-november-china-government-records-show-report

The first case of someone suffering from Covid-19 can be traced back to 17 November, according to media reports on unpublished Chinese government data.The report, in the South China Morning Post, said Chinese authorities had identified at least 266 people who contracted the virus last year and who came under medical surveillance, and the earliest case was 17 November – weeks before authorities announced the emergence of the new virus.

 

[kingofhearts]

What the fuck is this thread 

[GreenSeater]

3 minutes ago, kingofhearts said:

What the fuck is this thread 

[playmaker]

A lot of theories floating around here but let's see what the experts say.

Enjoy.

Below is our list of twelve medical experts whose opinions on the Coronavirus outbreak contradict the official narratives of the MSM, and the memes so prevalent on social media.

 

* * *

 

 

Dr Sucharit Bhakdi is a specialist in microbiology. He was a professor at the Johannes Gutenberg University in Mainz and head of the Institute for Medical Microbiology and Hygiene and one of the most cited research scientists in German history.

What he says:

We are afraid that 1 million infections with the new virus will lead to 30 deaths per day over the next 100 days. But we do not realise that 20, 30, 40 or 100 patients positive for normal coronaviruses are already dying every day.

[The government’s anti-COVID19 measures] are grotesque, absurd and very dangerous […] The life expectancy of millions is being shortened. The horrifying impact on the world economy threatens the existence of countless people. The consequences on medical care are profound. Already services to patients in need are reduced, operations cancelled, practices empty, hospital personnel dwindling. All this will impact profoundly on our whole society.

All these measures are leading to self-destruction and collective suicide based on nothing but a spook.

 

 

*  *  *

Dr Wolfgang Wodarg is a German physician specialising in Pulmonology, politician and former chairman of the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe. In 2009 he called for an inquiry into alleged conflicts of interest surrounding the EU response to the Swine Flu pandemic.

What he says:

Politicians are being courted by scientists…scientists who want to be important to get money for their institutions. Scientists who just swim along in the mainstream and want their part of it […] And what is missing right now is a rational way of looking at things.

We should be asking questions like “How did you find out this virus was dangerous?”, “How was it before?”, “Didn’t we have the same thing last year?”, “Is it even something new?”

That’s missing.

 

 

*  *  *

Dr Joel Kettner s professor of Community Health Sciences and Surgery at Manitoba University, former Chief Public Health Officer for Manitoba province and Medical Director of the International Centre for Infectious Diseases.

What he says:

I have never seen anything like this, anything anywhere near like this. I’m not talking about the pandemic, because I’ve seen 30 of them, one every year. It is called influenza. And other respiratory illness viruses, we don’t always know what they are. But I’ve never seen this reaction, and I’m trying to understand why.

[…]

I worry about the message to the public, about the fear of coming into contact with people, being in the same space as people, shaking their hands, having meetings with people. I worry about many, many consequences related to that.

[…]

In Hubei, in the province of Hubei, where there has been the most cases and deaths by far, the actual number of cases reported is 1 per 1000 people and the actual rate of deaths reported is 1 per 20,000. So maybe that would help to put things into perspective.

 

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Dr John Ioannidis Professor of Medicine, of Health Research and Policy and of Biomedical Data Science, at Stanford University School of Medicine and a Professor of Statistics at Stanford University School of Humanities and Sciences. He is director of the Stanford Prevention Research Center, and co-director of the Meta-Research Innovation Center at Stanford (METRICS).

He is also the editor-in-chief of the European Journal of Clinical Investigation. He was chairman at the Department of Hygiene and Epidemiology, University of Ioannina School of Medicine as well as adjunct professor at Tufts University School of Medicine.

As a physician, scientist and author he has made contributions to evidence-based medicine, epidemiology, data science and clinical research. In addition, he pioneered the field of meta-research. He has shown that much of the published research does not meet good scientific standards of evidence.

 

What he says:

Patients who have been tested for SARS-CoV-2 are disproportionately those with severe symptoms and bad outcomes. As most health systems have limited testing capacity, selection bias may even worsen in the near future.

The one situation where an entire, closed population was tested was the Diamond Princess cruise ship and its quarantine passengers. The case fatality rate there was 1.0%, but this was a largely elderly population, in which the death rate from Covid-19 is much higher.

[…]

Could the Covid-19 case fatality rate be that low? No, some say, pointing to the high rate in elderly people. However, even some so-called mild or common-cold-type coronaviruses that have been known for decades can have case fatality rates as high as 8% when they infect elderly people in nursing homes.

[…]

If we had not known about a new virus out there, and had not checked individuals with PCR tests, the number of total deaths due to “influenza-like illness” would not seem unusual this year. At most, we might have casually noted that flu this season seems to be a bit worse than average.

– “A fiasco in the making? As the coronavirus pandemic takes hold, we are making decisions without reliable data”, Stat News, 17th March 2020

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Dr Yoram Lass is an Israeli physician, politician and former Director General of the Health Ministry. He also worked as Associate Dean of the Tel Aviv University Medical School and during the 1980s presented the science-based television show Tatzpit.

What he says:

Italy is known for its enormous morbidity in respiratory problems, more than three times any other European country. In the US about 40,000 people die in a regular flu season and so far 40-50 people have died of the coronavirus, most of them in a nursing home in Kirkland, Washington.

[…]

In every country, more people die from regular flu compared with those who die from the coronavirus.

[…]

…there is a very good example that we all forget: the swine flu in 2009. That was a virus that reached the world from Mexico and until today there is no vaccination against it. But what? At that time there was no Facebook or there maybe was but it was still in its infancy. The coronavirus, in contrast, is a virus with public relations.

Whoever thinks that governments end viruses is wrong.

– Interview in Globes, March 22nd 2020

*  *  *

Dr Pietro Vernazza is a Swiss physician specialising Infectious Diseases at the Cantonal Hospital St. Gallen and Professor of Health Policy.

What he says:

We have reliable figures from Italy and a work by epidemiologists, which has been published in the renowned science journal ‹Science›, which examined the spread in China. This makes it clear that around 85 percent of all infections have occurred without anyone noticing the infection. 90 percent of the deceased patients are verifiably over 70 years old, 50 percent over 80 years.

[…]

In Italy, one in ten people diagnosed die, according to the findings of the Science publication, that is statistically one of every 1,000 people infected. Each individual case is tragic, but often – similar to the flu season – it affects people who are at the end of their lives.

[…]

If we close the schools, we will prevent the children from quickly becoming immune.

[…]

We should better integrate the scientific facts into the political decisions.

– Interview in St. Galler Tagblatt, 22nd March 2020

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Frank Ulrich Montgomery is German radiologist, former President of the German Medical Association and Deputy Chairman of the World Medical Association.

What he says:

I’m not a fan of lockdown. Anyone who imposes something like this must also say when and how to pick it up again. Since we have to assume that the virus will be with us for a long time, I wonder when we will return to normal? You can’t keep schools and daycare centers closed until the end of the year. Because it will take at least that long until we have a vaccine. Italy has imposed a lockdown and has the opposite effect. They quickly reached their capacity limits, but did not slow down the virus spread within the lockdown.

– Interview in General Anzeiger, 18th March 2020

*  *  *

Prof. Hendrik Streeck is a German HIV researcher, epidemiologist and clinical trialist. He is professor of virology, and the director of the Institute of Virology and HIV Research, at Bonn University.

What he says:

The new pathogen is not that dangerous, it is even less dangerous than Sars-1. The special thing is that Sars-CoV-2 replicates in the upper throat area and is therefore much more infectious because the virus jumps from throat to throat, so to speak. But that is also an advantage: Because Sars-1 replicates in the deep lungs, it is not so infectious, but it definitely gets on the lungs, which makes it more dangerous.

[…]

You also have to take into account that the Sars-CoV-2 deaths in Germany were exclusively old people. In Heinsberg, for example, a 78-year-old man with previous illnesses died of heart failure, and that without Sars-2 lung involvement. Since he was infected, he naturally appears in the Covid 19 statistics. But the question is whether he would not have died anyway, even without Sars-2.

– Interview in Frankfurter Allgemeine, 16th March 2020

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Dr Yanis Roussel et. al. – A team of researchers from the Institut Hospitalo-universitaire Méditerranée Infection, Marseille and the Institut de Recherche pour le Développement, Assistance Publique-Hôpitaux de Marseille, conducting a peer-reviewed study on Coronavirus mortality for the government of France under the ‘Investments for the Future’ programme.

What they say:

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The problem of SARS-CoV-2 is probably overestimated, as 2.6 million people die of respiratory infections each year compared with less than 4000 deaths for SARS-CoV-2 at the time of writing.

[…]

This study compared the mortality rate of SARS-CoV-2 in OECD countries (1.3%) with the mortality rate of common coronaviruses identified in AP-HM patients (0.8%) from 1 January 2013 to 2 March 2020. Chi-squared test was performed, and the P-value was 0.11 (not significant).

[…]

…it should be noted that systematic studies of other coronaviruses (but not yet for SARS-CoV-2) have found that the percentage of asymptomatic carriers is equal to or even higher than the percentage of symptomatic patients. The same data for SARS-CoV-2 may soon be available, which will further reduce the relative risk associated with this specific pathology.

– “SARS-CoV-2: fear versus data”, International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents, 19th March 2020

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Dr. David Katz is an American physician and founding director of the Yale University Prevention Research Center

What he says:

I am deeply concerned that the social, economic and public health consequences of this near-total meltdown of normal life — schools and businesses closed, gatherings banned — will be long-lasting and calamitous, possibly graver than the direct toll of the virus itself. The stock market will bounce back in time, but many businesses never will. The unemployment, impoverishment and despair likely to result will be public health scourges of the first order.

– “Is Our Fight Against Coronavirus Worse Than the Disease?”, New York Times 20th March 2020

*  *  *

Michael T. Osterholm is regents professor and director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota.

What he says:

Consider the effect of shutting down offices, schools, transportation systems, restaurants, hotels, stores, theaters, concert halls, sporting events and other venues indefinitely and leaving all of their workers unemployed and on the public dole. The likely result would be not just a depression but a complete economic breakdown, with countless permanently lost jobs, long before a vaccine is ready or natural immunity takes hold.

[…]

[T]he best alternative will probably entail letting those at low risk for serious disease continue to work, keep business and manufacturing operating, and “run” society, while at the same time advising higher-risk individuals to protect themselves through physical distancing and ramping up our health-care capacity as aggressively as possible. With this battle plan, we could gradually build up immunity without destroying the financial structure on which our lives are based.

– “Facing covid-19 reality: A national lockdown is no cure”, Washington Post 21st March 2020

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Dr Peter Goetzsche is Professor of Clinical Research Design and Analysis at the University of Copenhagen and founder of the Cochrane Medical Collaboration. He has written several books on corruption in the field of medicine and the power of big pharmaceutical companies.

What he says:

Our main problem is that no one will ever get in trouble for measures that are too draconian. They will only get in trouble if they do too little. So, our politicians and those working with public health do much more than they should do.

No such draconian measures were applied during the 2009 influenza pandemic, and they obviously cannot be applied every winter, which is all year round, as it is always winter somewhere. We cannot close down the whole world permanently.

Should it turn out that the epidemic wanes before long, there will be a queue of people wanting to take credit for this. And we can be damned sure draconian measures will be applied again next time. But remember the joke about tigers. “Why do you blow the horn?” “To keep the tigers away.” “But there are no tigers here.” “There you see!”

– “Corona: an epidemic of mass panic”, blog post on Deadly Medicines 21st March 2020

 

IS EVERYONE WAKING UP YET?

Edited March 27, 2020 by playmaker

[Jovan]

500K infected

24K dead.

Whatever your above good Drs may say its still fucking deadset serious. World governments would never choose depression as the best option unless it was absolutely the only alternative. 

To keep posting your shit is no longer funny.

[playmaker]

51 minutes ago, Jovan said:

World governments would never choose depression as the best option unless it was absolutely the only alternative. 

Well said, I agree.

80 000 troops on the ground in Europe, 30 000 of which are US.

Thousands of Russian troops in Rome.

8000 arrests in the Vatican 

Organised crime syndicate involved with human and children trafficking being brought down all around the world

CEOs and leaders of business resigning at record rates.

The Greeks atm fighting back 200 000 Africans at the Turkish border with 100s of thousand more coming.

And imagine what we don't know, maybe it WAS the only alternative. 

MSM not talking about that are they because its all corona corona corona. 

Can't you see?

This is mind control 101. Psychological warfare.

I am not having a go at you or anyone else, its just if people know their basic history of wartime propaganda,  and instead of getting mentally slaughtered my the MSM all day just read or listen to other and in IMO more precise information.

I post what I do because, for me, it's in plain sight and being in medical science my whole life, its obvious that the virus is a con and there is something bigger going on.

I feel saddened to see the fear in people and I really do care about all you guys.

We are all blessed by having such a vast amount of information at our fingertips and we all have the opportunity to investigate all things and gain knowledge related to anything. I encourage everyone to unplug from the MSM, and social mind control media and research other information outlets without bias, especially independent medical research and European independent media.

Anyway that is all I have to say.

That's it for me.

10 days of darkness, 10/4 important

Hope you all stay safe and may God bless and bring peace and comfort to you and your families.

 

[HeartFc]

Look, I love these conversations coz this is what finding the truth is all about, plus its fun. But, I fundamentally still don't understand your theory...

So its fake? All these dead people are paid actors? Or, no dead people at all? The footage is fake? The coffins empty? Italy is actually fine, people are eating ravioli by the bucket load on the streets? Those empty streets? Edited footage? I need answers...

Are you going to do the classic shift of the goal posts when 100k people are dead in the next month? Whats about the following 2 million that die after that? (hopefully doesnt happen) 

Will the theory change from a fake virus to a panic-inducing bio-weapon created to justify martial law? 

Is this actually a deep state clean out?

In 250 words or less, in plain English, whats going on? Who's behind it? Why? And whats the end game?

 

 

[malloy]

The question is playmaker are you willing to back up what you are saying and voluntarily contract the Coronavirus?

[NewConvert]

10 hours ago, malloy said:

The question is playmaker are you willing to back up what you are saying and voluntarily contract the Coronavirus?

It doesn't matter whether he contracts COVID-19 as he seems relatively young - at worst he will take up a hospital bed. Its whether he knows people who are in the high risk category: elderly with grave underlying medical conditions.

[malloy]

1 hour ago, NewConvert said:

It doesn't matter whether he contracts COVID-19 as he seems relatively young - at worst he will take up a hospital bed. Its whether he knows people who are in the high risk category: elderly with grave underlying medical conditions.

This whole 'if you are young then you are ok' thing is starting to prove a false. With reports saying China's data is an anomaly (I would go as far as saying its false) when it comes to the age group of who are affected.

 

[haz]

6 minutes ago, malloy said:

This whole 'if you are young then you are ok' thing is starting to prove a false. With reports saying China's data is an anomaly (I would go as far as saying its false) when it comes to the age group of who are affected.

I think the data isn't too wrong. Considering there are many many people who are infected but not officially confirmed, the mortality rate is still relatively low for people under 30.

Be careful of overexposure in the media. If a 20 year old dies, everyone will report on it whereas there are another 2k+ 50+ year olds who have died. This is similar to when a Tesla crashes, there will be many media reports on this single incident but 1000s of other crashes per day will be not covered in media.

[jw1739]

2 hours ago, haz said:

I think the data isn't too wrong. Considering there are many many people who are infected but not officially confirmed, the mortality rate is still relatively low for people under 30.

Be careful of overexposure in the media. If a 20 year old dies, everyone will report on it whereas there are another 2k+ 50+ year olds who have died. This is similar to when a Tesla crashes, there will be many media reports on this single incident but 1000s of other crashes per day will be not covered in media.

I don't think it's a fair question to anyone whether they are prepared to be infected with anything just to prove a point that they are making. I'd say no-one wishes to be infected with anything, because they don't know they, specifically, will react.

I think that the real question is whether it's worth wrecking the whole economy, and many people's lives, possibly for a long time, just because there is a higher-than-normal death rate in a particular demographic from a specific health threat. Perhaps better to look at how quickly we can respond in such situations and how we can be more effective in that response, and then actually implement change. Perhaps we really do need to have empty hospitals in stand-by mode?

I'm right in the most-vulnerable group, and I say the above because I don't want to go through all this and (hopefully) come out the other side only to find that we go right back to same fucking set-up that we had before.

The other point that I would like to make is that the "lock-downs" in Australia are not designed to prevent the spread of the coronavirus - they are designed to "flatten the curve" so as not to overload existing health services, and that the target infection rate is 60% - i.e. we will go though all this and still 60% of us will get the infection.

It's a very difficult call for every one.

Edited March 27, 2020 by jw1739

[NewConvert]

31 minutes ago, jw1739 said:

I don't think it's a fair question to anyone whether they are prepared to be infected with anything just to prove a point that they are making. I'd say no-one wishes to be infected with anything, because they don't know they, specifically, will react.

I think that the real question is whether it's worth wrecking the whole economy, and many people's lives, possibly for a long time, just because there is a higher-than-normal death rate in a particular demographic from a specific health threat. Perhaps better to look at how quickly we can respond in such situations and how we can be more effective in that response, and then actually implement change. Perhaps we really do need to have empty hospitals in stand-by mode?

I'm right in the most-vulnerable group, and I say the above because I don't want to go through all this and (hopefully) come out the other side only to find that we go right back to same fucking set-up that we had before

You are right - it is a balance of risks. If governments treated COVID-19 as any other influenza when it isn't then the economy is screwed as the death toll would wreck the economy, overwhelm the public health system and create societal chaos (people fleeing to safer havens, etc.). Of course if COVID-19 does turn out to be like any other influenza then governments have screwed the economy unnecessarily. Hobson's choice. The problem that COVID-19 is not quite like any other coronavirus in that it is contagious before any symptoms appear and of course like any other coronavirus, it can lead to pneumonia which is deadly for the at risk group. Interestingly, COVID-19 does infect children under 5 but doe not appear to lead to any grave consequences as typical coronavirus does for this age group.

So in the end, governments along with the public service needed to make a call. In this instance the call has been made that the risk of treating COVID-19 like any other coronavirus was too great a risk.

As far as statistic s are concerned Italy & Spain have the same stats as China. The interesting thing is that enough people around the world came to my conclusion that it affects the elderly only, hence they did not worry about protecting themselves and now we are seeing an increase in the number of hospital beds being consumed by this age group. The message for the healthy under 40s is that it won't kill you but you will have wished that it did as pneumonia is a painful debilitating experience.

[malloy]

3 hours ago, haz said:

I think the data isn't too wrong. Considering there are many many people who are infected but not officially confirmed, the mortality rate is still relatively low for people under 30.

Be careful of overexposure in the media. If a 20 year old dies, everyone will report on it whereas there are another 2k+ 50+ year olds who have died. This is similar to when a Tesla crashes, there will be many media reports on this single incident but 1000s of other crashes per day will be not covered in media.

My position was largrly based on CDC reports.

[jw1739]

4 hours ago, haz said:

Be careful of overexposure in the media. If a 20 year old dies, everyone will report on it whereas there are another 2k+ 50+ year olds who have died. This is similar to when a Tesla crashes, there will be many media reports on this single incident but 1000s of other crashes per day will be not covered in media.

Precisely. How many other 80+ people are dying per day in Victoria?

[belaguttman]

6 hours ago, haz said:

I think the data isn't too wrong. Considering there are many many people who are infected but not officially confirmed, the mortality rate is still relatively low for people under 30.

Be careful of overexposure in the media. If a 20 year old dies, everyone will report on it whereas there are another 2k+ 50+ year olds who have died. This is similar to when a Tesla crashes, there will be many media reports on this single incident but 1000s of other crashes per day will be not covered in media.

The data isn't 'wrong', the data is incomplete, and it's early days to make sense of sometimes contradictory interpretations. Time and experience will clarify

The most accurate experience comes from South Korea and Taiwan where they have done extensive community screening. The data suggest a mortality rate or 0.6-1%. Whilst that number sounds small, that makes it 6 to 10 times as lethal as influenza, whilst 2-3 times as infectious.That puts an Australian death rate, if 60% of the population is infected at 100,000 to 150,000. Once we reach 60% community exposure, the virus will still be present in the community but it will become more difficult for it to find susceptible hosts. and the new infection rate will fall. 500,000 people (5%) will require ICU support to survive their infections. So far, in the US, 86% of patients that require ventilation will die, but we want that figure to be better here.

Prevention is the most effective treatment

Edited March 28, 2020 by belaguttman

[jw1739]

A Newcastle player has been confirmed as testing positive to the coronavirus.

What a stupid idea it was to play that match last Monday.

[HeartFc]

12 minutes ago, jw1739 said:

A Newcastle player has been confirmed as testing positive to the coronavirus.

What a stupid idea it was to play that match last Monday.

Well apparently Jason Hoffman pulled out of that game coz "he did his back" right before the game, picking up one of his kids...

 

 

Edited March 28, 2020 by HeartFc

[neio]

34 minutes ago, HeartFc said:

Well apparently Jason Hoffman pulled out of that game coz "he did his back" right before the game, picking up one of his kids...

 

 

It's been confirmed that the player played in both their game against brisbane and game against us. No names yet, but obviously now all our players are at risk

[NuggetsMcGreggor]

click into the article and the name is removed. 

Edited March 28, 2020 by NuggetsMcGreggor

[HeartFc]

FFS  Hoolahan played 26 minutes against us. 

[belaguttman]

13 hours ago, NuggetsMcGreggor said:

click into the article and the name is removed. 

All our players are at risk anyway. The risk was just as high being around their team mates