Parrot Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 So it didn't work out for Aloisi when he coached us. We all know the buck falls with the coach, but I tell you quite a few of our players were not blameless, including some players that Aloisi probably regretted signing. But this hatred of Aloisi is ridiculous. For those who have been listening to him on Fox Sports, he shows he has a lot of football knowledge with his incisive comments - more knowledge I dare say than probably just about everyone here who are harshly criticising him. There's still plenty of time for John Aloisi, a legend of our game, to forge a decent coaching career imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 So it didn't work out for Aloisi when he coached us. We all know the buck falls with the coach, but I tell you quite a few of our players were not blameless, including some players that Aloisi probably regretted signing. But this hatred of Aloisi is ridiculous. For those who have been listening to him on Fox Sports, he shows he has a lot of football knowledge with his incisive comments - more knowledge I dare say than probably just about everyone here who are harshly criticising him. There's still plenty of time for John Aloisi, a legend of our game, to forge a decent coaching career imo. The same players that JVS coached to a 4-0 derby win. I have a lot of respect for JA the player by JA was a shocking coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyh001 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) So it didn't work out for Aloisi when he coached us. We all know the buck falls with the coach, but I tell you quite a few of our players were not blameless, including some players that Aloisi probably regretted signing. But this hatred of Aloisi is ridiculous. For those who have been listening to him on Fox Sports, he shows he has a lot of football knowledge with his incisive comments - more knowledge I dare say than probably just about everyone here who are harshly criticising him. There's still plenty of time for John Aloisi, a legend of our game, to forge a decent coaching career imo.The same players that JVS coached to a 4-0 derby win. I have a lot of respect for JA the player by JA was a shocking coach.This. The fact Heart went 17 games winless under JA without him showing a remote ability to articulate how we would improve tells you all you need to kno about his record with the club and why JA gets what he gets from us. Overall I can't really think of a single player JA improved while with us. There wouldn't be many you could honestly claim otherwise. The fact that the tards have appointed him and signed him as a development coach is flabbergasting. Good as a player (I feel largely under appreciated) but JA was fucking shit as a coach. Edited February 9, 2015 by mattyh001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Time heals all wounds .... so based on JA's stint at our club, and the pain he has inflicted, given I'm 40, I'll start warming to him when I'm 86 ... In my third life from now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) Is this even real life? Edited February 9, 2015 by HeartFc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Victory don't know what they are getting themselves into. All I can say is "good luck"!. MUAHAHAHAHAHA! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) In b4 he takes over as head coach, becomes the greatest of all time and when asked why there was such a difference between his results at Heart he says it's because he has a good squad now. Edited February 9, 2015 by KSK_47 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheepdog Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 unlucky victory. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnno cpfc Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 But, could he have taken this job so that he can add it to his C/V so when applying for a head cach job he has more experience. Seems to me this could be why, wink wink, nudge nudge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 lol, knowing our luck he'll go on to be a raging success. Any lingering respect I did have for him has completely dissipated now though, what a gigantic cunt muffin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 I like to think that he has realised how shit he is and is now trying to payback his horrid time as our coach by taking down Victory from the inside. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Fall down a flight of stairs you cunt. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 The A-League is just one giant merry-go-round - players and coaches. All that seems to change is the colours they are wearing. Where is the new talent? Promotion from the state leagues? No, old school tie. That's all you need. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semper Cor Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Not sure what’s more potentially harmful to the kids, Archie’s anti-vaccination stance or JA’s coaching. And what is the “Victory Way” is that the football philosophy of pinching players and staff from Brisbane Roar? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Typical Victory, always feeding on our scraps. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Attack11 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 To see this cunt of a bloke beat his chest in front of the Yarraside and tell everyone he was all heart. JA go fuck yourself.. That's why you are a shit coach because you don't stand for anything and players can see through your bullshit .. You have no coaching philosophy, you don't have any ability in developing young Australian players.. Once the MV see that you will again be out on your ass.. You have completely destroyed your own legacy.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Please someone give him a head coaching role ASAP. Just want him to be quiet and failing again may just do the trick. I was thinking the same thing. Problem is which team would ever hire him again. I guess now we know which team. Dumb fucks massive fucking LOL, this has truly made that derby loss seem less significant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 100 pages dedicated to this fuckwit and now he's gone across to the dark (blue) side to add the 're' to 'tards'! Might as well close this thread and track his fuck-ups in the "Where are they now" thread! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Nah fuck that. I like it when I see his name in bold on the main page of the forum as I know he's fucked up again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recyclosaurusrex Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Is this the first time someone has gone from Heart/City to Victory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red or Dead Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Is this the first time someone has gone from Heart/City to Victory? Yes, but he'll probably make the same argument Garcia made after he celebrated his goal against us, "I didn't play for Melbourne City, I played for Melbourne Heart"...wankers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 John is a highly respected member of the Australian football community whose experience and pedigree will add real value to our youth football program," Melbourne Victory coach Kevin Muscat said. "His appointment is another step towards the development of our own football academy and we're delighted to welcome him as part of the Melbourne Victory family." Go eat a bag of dicks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Libero Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 good luck to him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jestr Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 good luck to him Let's hope he brings them as much luck as he brought us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strider Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 what a poofta 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recyclosaurusrex Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Would of been nice if he'd been announced prior to the derby so we could of chanted something like "good luck with that idiot victory" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recyclosaurusrex Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 what a poofta Yep. Absolute prick. Hated him as a manager but other than that thought his intentions were true and all. Now I just think he's a cunt. What a turncoat. Fuck off and die Aloisi. Ruin our list with shit signings then fuck off and now you're with the retards. I hope you fuck up their team as much as you fucked ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombegongal Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Wow the vitriol on here is amazing. Good luck to him not overly worried with him defecting to Geelong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerhead Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Hopefully he becomes our own Agent Lomas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Wow the vitriol on here is amazing. Good luck to him not overly worried with him defecting to Geelong. Same here. The vast majority of people on here hated him and thought he was a c*** already. If he had just popped up on the big screen randomly at the next home game (before this announcement was made), I'd say that he'd almost certainly be booed. During his time as coach, we were appalling; he wasn't ready for the job and made it pretty clear that he wasn't going to resign (management should have dismissed him weeks - if not months - before it did). But if we wanted him to be 'Heart for life', maybe we should have toned down the outright hatred for him over the past twelve months. I'm sure if I could be bothered going over the posts in here since he was sacked, it would confirm that we gave him no reason to feel loyalty to our club whatsoever after he was dismissed. So, he can do as he pleases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Wow the vitriol on here is amazing. Good luck to him not overly worried with him defecting to Geelong. Same here. The vast majority of people on here hated him and thought he was a c*** already. If he had just popped up on the big screen randomly at the next home game (before this announcement was made), I'd say that he'd almost certainly be booed. During his time as coach, we were appalling; he wasn't ready for the job and made it pretty clear that he wasn't going to resign (management should have dismissed him weeks - if not months - before it did). But if we wanted him to be 'Heart for life', maybe we should have toned down the outright hatred for him over the past twelve months. I'm sure if I could be bothered going over the posts in here since he was sacked, it would confirm that we gave him no reason to feel loyalty to our club whatsoever after he was dismissed. So, he can do as he pleases. I'm sure there's many reasons he did take the job for eg. he doesn't have to uproot his family to move somewhere else to coach. But he deserves no such love or respect for how he destroyed what should have been our best years as a club since inception. What irks me most is he never once took accountability for what he put us through, not once! However for me as a supporter this was his chance, by not going to Victory, to show some respect to us supporters. He's made his decision, and I've made mine. He's a cunt. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Wow the vitriol on here is amazing. Good luck to him not overly worried with him defecting to Geelong. Same here. The vast majority of people on here hated him and thought he was a c*** already. If he had just popped up on the big screen randomly at the next home game (before this announcement was made), I'd say that he'd almost certainly be booed. During his time as coach, we were appalling; he wasn't ready for the job and made it pretty clear that he wasn't going to resign (management should have dismissed him weeks - if not months - before it did). But if we wanted him to be 'Heart for life', maybe we should have toned down the outright hatred for him over the past twelve months. I'm sure if I could be bothered going over the posts in here since he was sacked, it would confirm that we gave him no reason to feel loyalty to our club whatsoever after he was dismissed. So, he can do as he pleases. I'm sure there's many reasons he did take the job for eg. he doesn't have to uproot his family to move somewhere else to coach. But he deserves no such love or respect for how he destroyed what should have been our best years as a club since inception. What irks me most is he never once took accountability for what he put us through, not once! However for me as a supporter this was his chance, by not going to Victory, to show some respect to us supporters. He's made his decision, and I've made mine. He's a cunt. All good. I'm just saying, he wouldn't think back fondly on his time at Melbourne Heart and we (as supporters or the club internally) made no attempt to bury the hatchet, as far as I'm aware. So, as soon as he cleared out his office last year, he stopped being a Heart person, as far as I'm concerned. People on here would still think he's a c*** if he turned down the Victory job, because it's highly likely that they would have never known about it, if he'd passed on the offer. I totally understand the hate for him, but I don't think this move will have changed many supporters' opinions of him from what they were 24 hours ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 I just hope his new role will mean less time on Fox Sports ... seeing him pretend to know what he is talking about using Fox Field makes me angry everytime 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 TBH, the guy needs a job to support himself and his family. I don't blame him for taking what he's offered. People move between competitors in the business world just as they do in the football world. The "one-club" player/coach/administrator is a rarity. I don't see that John Aloisi owes us anything. I'm sure he did his best, but for whatever reason he wasn't successful. And I don't think we should blame him for anything. Most of what we're going through now wasn't caused on his watch but is directly attributable to today's City management team. Move on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 TBH, the guy needs a job to support himself and his family. I don't blame him for taking what he's offered. People move between competitors in the business world just as they do in the football world. The "one-club" player/coach/administrator is a rarity. I don't see that John Aloisi owes us anything. I'm sure he did his best, but for whatever reason he wasn't successful. And I don't think we should blame him for anything. Most of what we're going through now wasn't caused on his watch but is directly attributable to today's City management team. Move on. Yeah, my feelings exactly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) Wow the vitriol on here is amazing. Good luck to him not overly worried with him defecting to Geelong. Same here. The vast majority of people on here hated him and thought he was a c*** already. If he had just popped up on the big screen randomly at the next home game (before this announcement was made), I'd say that he'd almost certainly be booed. During his time as coach, we were appalling; he wasn't ready for the job and made it pretty clear that he wasn't going to resign (management should have dismissed him weeks - if not months - before it did). But if we wanted him to be 'Heart for life', maybe we should have toned down the outright hatred for him over the past twelve months. I'm sure if I could be bothered going over the posts in here since he was sacked, it would confirm that we gave him no reason to feel loyalty to our club whatsoever after he was dismissed. So, he can do as he pleases. I'm sure there's many reasons he did take the job for eg. he doesn't have to uproot his family to move somewhere else to coach. But he deserves no such love or respect for how he destroyed what should have been our best years as a club since inception. What irks me most is he never once took accountability for what he put us through, not once! However for me as a supporter this was his chance, by not going to Victory, to show some respect to us supporters. He's made his decision, and I've made mine. He's a cunt. All good. I'm just saying, he wouldn't think back fondly on his time at Melbourne Heart and we (as supporters or the club internally) made no attempt to bury the hatchet, as far as I'm aware. So, as soon as he cleared out his office last year, he stopped being a Heart person, as far as I'm concerned. People on here would still think he's a c*** if he turned down the Victory job, because it's highly likely that they would have never known about it, if he'd passed on the offer. I totally understand the hate for him, but I don't think this move will have changed many supporters' opinions of him from what they were 24 hours ago. I never thought he was a cunt. I certainly thought the way he went about things was nothing short of disgraceful. But now that he is on the wrong side of the fence I will, if I put it nicely, have a big dislike for him, TBH, the guy needs a job to support himself and his family. I don't blame him for taking what he's offered. People move between competitors in the business world just as they do in the football world. The "one-club" player/coach/administrator is a rarity. I don't see that John Aloisi owes us anything. I'm sure he did his best, but for whatever reason he wasn't successful. And I don't think we should blame him for anything. Most of what we're going through now wasn't caused on his watch but is directly attributable to today's City management team. Move on. We all have different opinions, but I do believe that the one thing you should do when you fuck up majorly like he did is take some ownership, if anything for those that support you. And it's not about his effort or anything like that, because I know he gave it his best go. But I still feel he owes us acknowledgement that he was also responsible for our results. If he did that I would have a lot more respect for the guy. Edited February 10, 2015 by n i k o 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Aliosi= the Fonze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FIFA 2002 Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) However for me as a supporter this was his chance, by not going to Victory, to show some respect to us supporters. Does this reflect the lack of a Melbourne Heart identity or culture being developed? Seems Aloisi has no sentimentality or sense of attachment to the club (from a man who 'passionately' screamed "I am Melbourne Heart" after the home draw against Adelaide in season 4). For mine, Aloisi was maybe the closest to a potential club legend (as much as you can have such a figure after 4 seasons) - being the inaugural golden boot, derby hero and eventual manager (albeit a tarnished reign). You'd never see a Muscat or Archie type figure coming across from Victory because their club means something to them, whereas the Heart meant the most to supporters, perhaps not the players? Edited February 10, 2015 by FIFA 2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperfuzz Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 But we sacked him dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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