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Its probably also worth noting that the other 8 terraces were virtually protesting a completely different thing to the NT and RBB, something which the media were painfully unaware/ignorant of. You don't have to be blind Freddy to see that the other 8 terraces have been punished for what is largely the actions of those two over the past few seasons.

IMO, not much.

This. Tbh i think the main thing is people are sick of hearing the same takeover debate endlessly after two years. Noone is saying you cant feel that way, but dont be surprised if people dont want to hear it. Its more of a case of people have said their piece before and continue to whinge about it so its gotten to the point where everyone else is of the shut up or walk away thought frame.

Yawn.

Speaking of Dan Andrews, he's just about to undo all his good work with this Firefighters Union shit. Fuck me dead.

UOTIH : League is a far superior product to Union.

He will. He pretty much has no choice. If he knocks back the offer he will earn 1 mil less than what he otherwise would, and be risking future earnings on the back of having another career best season. I doubt he's ever earned anything near 1mil per season as it is. City well and truly have him on toast here. And from what I've heard he doesn't care that much about the cash anyway, he's obviously holding out to get as much as he can which is in his best interests, but he is more than content to stay here and earn a cool mil a year for three years.

The mini Manchester thing isnt fact. It's subjective. To me the whole idea is ridiculous - its the players, culture, history and fans that make a football club - not who owns it or what colours they wear. And in those four aspects we have essentially nothing even comparable to Manchester. I fully appreciate that some people feel that we've become a Mini Man City and thats fine, you're entitled to feel that way. But the repeated suggestion that its a fact and that we've sold out is nothing more than subjective. I certainly don't feel that way and tbh I reckon there'd be quite a lot of others that couldnt give a shit about a perceived 'ídentity crisis' either.

Why?

Spitter.

I wouldn't call it bullying either; its just a cry a for help from another identity confused hipster.

Tbh it sounds like the NYC fans are shitty with the wrong person.

Who cares. Massive difference between being an assistant and the manager. If he's any good well all the best to him, if he's not he'll be out the door quicker than a Mumbai Vindaloo. Won the title back in 08 didnt he?

Equaliser came after 93.45 on the last touch of the game, with only 3 minutes of stoppage time alotted. They were seriously stiff and should have been way further ahead all game. Heart-esque

Yeh thats the reality these days, I didnt mean it literally. I often find it ironic that the 'freedom fighters' are often the ones that want to limit what people can say. BTW, anyone read Rita Panahi's article today? Probably the best opinion piece writer going around mainstream aussie media atm imo. There’s no point in being a victim May 30, 2016 12:00am RITA PANAHIHerald Sun WHERE do you rank in the Oppression Olympics? Are you floundering at the bottom of the table among the privileged white, Christian, heteronormative cisgender males with no moral authority to speak on any issue? Or are you going for gold as a transgendered pansexual Muslim woman of colour? There was a time when a person’s status was determined by their birth; those fortunate enough to belong to the aristocracy were judged to be our moral and intellectual superiors. Now there’s a new and even more toxic pecking order that determines one’s acceptability and authority to speak on a range of issues. The new aristocracy is determined by one’s victimhood status; the more grievance points you accumulate, the greater your mandate to preach. Of course, if you don’t identify as a victim then your oppression ranking plummets to Anglo-male depths, but if you play the game right, you can use your grievance status to score plum roles as well as dodge all responsibility if you happen to fail miserably. One popular tactic among the victimhood brigade is the refusal to accept any criticism that comes from those who are of a different race, religion, gender, sexuality or whatever else differentiates you. Men should not speak about feminism, whites should butt out of black or ethnic debates, and non-Muslims should never pass judgment on Islam. Last week soon-to-be-retired Senator Nova Peris rejected the opinions of those who don’t share her oppression ranking. “Until you are an Aboriginal person, don’t criticise me,” she said. Really? Can I play that card the next time I receive unhinged abuse from the always bitter and outraged feminist frightbats who are invariably middle-class white women? From now on my standard response to any and all criticism will be: “Unless you are an American-born Persian Australian, don’t judge me.” Let’s remember that Peris isn’t some disempowered victim; indeed she’s been treated better than most in her short political career. Allegations that Peris used taxpayer money to carry out an extramarital affair would have ended most political careers but she survived and earned a few extra grievance points by painting herself as the victim. While working for the Australian Institute of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Studies, Peris was involved in a decision to bring her lover, Olympian Ato Boldon, to Australia for a 10-day tryst interrupted by a few athletic workshops. However when the scandal was revealed, and again last week, there was no shortage of media pundits eager to characterise any criticism of Peris as racially motivated. We see the same simplistic arguments put forward claiming only indigenous people are entitled to an opinion on Australia Day, or Invasion Day, or whenever matters concerning the indigenous community are debated. How absurd to think that all people of a particular race or religion share the same values and viewpoints and will have their “side” adequately covered by an ethnically-appropriate representative. Those who demand that every member of a particular minority group think and vote the same way are guilty of the sort of closeminded prejudice that the Left used to rail against. It’s not just a local phenomenon — Egyptian feminist Mona Eltahawy, a favourite of the Q&A set, recently demanded that only Muslim women speak about the religion’s many problems, particularly with veiling. “If you’re white/not a Muslim woman: shut up and listen to us, Muslim women,” she tweeted. Victimhood does not equal moral superiority, particularly when in your eagerness to establish your victimhood status you ignore real victims. Western feminists who turn their back on oppressed women while getting worked up about non-issues such as gendered toys and “sexist air conditioners” are not noble warriors, merely tiresome trolls. Ordinarily I’d be the type of minority the average Leftie would be delighted to embrace given my many oppression points: woman of colour, Middle Eastern refugee, atheist, single mother ... if I was also a lesbian with a disability I’d have hit the diversity jackpot. And that’s part of the problem. Many progressives consider diversity a disability to be overcome. The victimhood they seek signifies for them a struggle that is often entirely in their own minds. My failure to see my ethnic origin as some sort of a handicap is deemed unacceptable. The fact that I don’t view Australia as an inherently racist country ruled by a monstrous patriarchy riles them even more. Unlike most Western feminists who have abandoned their sisters in the Muslim world, I won’t stay silent about the systematic subjugation of women in the name of Islam. That I won’t frame my opinions in a manner that pushes daft social justice agendas that are short on justice and high on propagating falsehoods is the final deal breaker. All of that combines to negate any oppression points I’ve accumulated and casts me as an enemy of your average Leftist, or progressive as they prefer to be called. Those people believe that if you don’t subscribe to their dippy worldview you’re suffering from internal misogyny and racism. That’s intellectually vacuous and it’s at the heart of the social justice activism that’s taken hold of much of academia. Is it any surprise universities are increasingly banning free speech and creating “safe spaces” to spare their delicate student populations from the only diversity they hate — the diversity of opinion? Identity politics that portrays victimhood as something to be lauded is counter-productive and divisive. Only a bigot would dismiss someone’s opinion based on their race, religion, gender or sexuality.

Absolutely. I've got no time for RA or Antifa either way, but if one turns up to the others rally, they should be prosecuted for inciting a riot imo. At the end of the day its free speech and one can say whatever they want. Condemning them should be done in ways that dont include a bit of biffo. Although in saying that, probably the best editions of 7News occur when you get to see these fuckheads beating the crap out of each other. oh the lels

Doesnt matter what side of the fence they sit on. All morons, all deserve a good kick in the teeth. Anyone that wears a balaclava to a protest is only there to cause trouble and deserves the full force of the law.

I guess so but they can be a bit more creative than that.

Nah looks shit

Its interesting with Arnold - he's clearly best suited to taking a vanilla team with a seige mentality.

He's not doing a very good job at that....

Probably belongs in TTIM, but fuck i hate Susie O'Brien. How that fuckstain has a column thats able to be viewed by so many people is beyond me.

Wouldn't be against any at min wage or close to but not for anything more than a squaddie.

Sah tru