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Dont imagine they would be monetary sanctions based on their current financial position besides what they need to pay in damages. Must be a points sanction and/or possible ongoing NT sanctions?

Fair point. Just makes me wonder if we have the next 'Tilio' coming through the ranks or not.

Anyone else notice we had no young substitutions to make? Jmac was taken off, I thought at least Raphael would come on.

Rumour he already agreed to go to the J2 league during the world cup. Apparently his interest in striving for results since then has declined. Plus victory get a six figure compensation fee out of it.

But this doesn't make sense....unless they call the game a draw whereby victory gets a point. Otherwise it has nothing to do with victory position on the ladder.

Just waiting for the game where we don't need to rely on good fortune to stop us conceding.

Record financial loss at Melbourne Victory as US ownership looms Melbourne Victory lost $6.7 million and was in deep financial trouble just months before it struck a deal that could hand control of the club to a US private equity investor within five years. So bad were the financial problems at the A-League’s best supported club that Victory’s auditors warned there was “material uncertainty” it could continue as a “going concern”, the club’s 2021-22 accounts show. The club’s revenue was badly affected by the pandemic – as were other professional sports clubs – but higher expenses also left it in the precarious position of having its liabilities exceeding its assets. The deal with investor 777 Partners and the club’s financial woes pre-date last month’s violent pitch invasion at AAMI Park that has led to initial sanctions against Victory, including limiting the number of fans it can have at games. Final penalties are yet to be determined by Football Australia. Before the investment from 777 Partners, Victory’s auditor Moore Australia said the state of the club’s finances “indicate a material uncertainty exists that may cast doubt on the group’s ability to continue as a going concern”. Victory’s major shareholder Mario Biasin, the co-founder of major builder Metricon, died in May. Metricon was a major Victory sponsor, while Biasin owned 26 per cent of the club. The Miami-based 777 Partners is a significant investor in world soccer, with stakes in Spanish La Liga side Sevilla, Italian Serie B team Genoa and Brazilian club Vasco De Gama. It recently struck a deal to make a significant investment in German Bundesliga side Hertha Berlin. It invests across insurance, finance, media and entertainment and aviation. The investor also backs new low-cost Australian airline Bonza. That airline will replace Metricon as a major Victory sponsor and its logo will appear on the front of the club’s jersey. The deal with 777 Partners, if approved by Victory shareholders, will dramatically dilute the interest of existing major shareholders in the club including Di Pietro and businessmen Joe Mirabella and Sam Cuteri. According to documents filed with the Australian Securities & Investment Commission, they intend to vote in favour of the 777 Partners investment. An expert report from RSM recommended the deal be approved by shareholders. Private investment is playing a growing role in Australia soccer, with private equity firm Silver Lake now the biggest shareholder in the A-League. Victory also owns a stake in the A-League, along with the other 11 teams in the competition.

His work rate is fantastic. Better than Luna? Quite possibly. That's a strength in itself.

I get where you're coming and agree. Even victory members that are closer to the club/active support agree that there have been many incidents that the club has failed to fully address. I also think @NewConvert has a point in wanting to know that information regarding those involved being members. It doesn't seem like much but separating actual paying members and potential banned members at the very least shows a few things.... 1) The club/sport has acted already in the past and doesn't tolerate these thugs. They are not members. Nobodies that come to cause trouble. 2) The responsibility slightly shifts to the stadium security rather than the sport. 3) The period of time from when they were banned to this game can suggest this trouble happens only when these thugs are there. So it's not present at every game. 4) We need to distance all the good members and football people from these thugs as far as possible. Every opportunity we can get needs to be used to do so imo.

100% agree. Who are these men? What is their background. Are they members, walk ins. It is so important that the sport provides the public context around these issues... otherwise people will simply assume they are just football fans like everyone else.

I'm not trying to make anyone do anything. Secondly i never said he knew exactly how far he had to throw it. I says he knew roughly how far. Furthermore to that I don't believe he had actual intent to hit anyone with the flare. But IMO he threw it towards them with intent. I've seen the video footage of him looking back at them, picking up the flare and watching where he was throwing it over the goals. He was certainly pissed off because that flare was thrown at him. He saw it sail past his head.

Oh I agree with your point. But you agree then I gather...as dumb and stupid and the moment got to him...he knew roughly how far that flare was going. It may have been a moment of anger. Whatever it was. One flare he carefully threw over the advertisement barrier. The other he's launched 10-15 metres away through the air. Its black and white. And he deserves whatever he gets for it.

You think that flare would have ended up in city Terrace had the ends been reversed? Same scenario...

I don't buy it. When thinking clearly he didn't intend it to go into the crowd. But in that moment he had a brain fart. No way in the world would that flare end up in the crowd if it was the city terrace behind him.

Where to start. Shock is one way of putting it. I've seen so many debates about what went wrong here, many of those debates start with "if so and so didn't happen then xyz wouldn't have happened." Quite frankly each incident needs to be looked at separately. We are dealing with adults across the board with responsibility for their own actions. I'll start with Tom Golver. I don't care if its accidental or not, he deserves punishment for what he did. Absolutely stupid. 4 game ban plus a fine. City Terrace. I don't mind flares at all. In fact I enjoy them when used appropriately but the way in which they were launched in such numbers and burning the goal net, they need to be sanctioned. Active need to be banned for 3 home games. Fines for the club. Osm and victory. All active support banned for the remainder of the season. The club to play the next 3 games behind closed doors. Heavy fines for club. No more points awarded for the remainder of the season and a negative 6 point start to next season. APL. Where to begin and what to do with them is beyond me. Shocking decision moving the finals. Deserve ongoing protests as per previous plans. No support during finals. Vicpol. There was already talk about plans for a pitch invasion. Where was their intelligence. And it took how long for them to come out onto the pitch after. Terrible policing. After years of over policing they go easy at the time when it was needed the most.

They will come and go. We will remain after they retire or move on to a club. Sorry but they may very well be collateral damage in making a statement so be it.

Absolutely huge from our star. What a legend!

Waitinf for the moment you begin to wish PK was at the helm again for all his yelling on the sidelines

I'll have another look but to me it would simply come down to if the offside player affects Glover in any way.

Why was that second goal for Wellington allowed? It wasn't obstruction of Glovers vision?

He seems much more relaxed doing the interview in front of a screen than with live reporters.

Controlled. Whatever you want to call it. Without doubt they controlled the tempo. Easy to ignore now after coming through unscathed. The tone would be different had they scored, which they should have. Then there would be complaining how we let them back in the game. Overall wrapped with the win, always take a positive result especially against those scumbags.

Serves them right for not giving us the entire south end. Can we now finally put them in a corner at the Christmas derby...

We are a team that controls the game. To have victory dominate us with 10 men and watch us go in second gear the whole way in that second half is disgraceful. Feels like the worst derby win in our history.

Shocking second half. No intensity. Farking shithouse.