jw1739 Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) OK, here we go again. Bring forth the doom and gloom prophesies. Edited January 26, 2019 by jw1739 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 26, 2019 Report Share Posted January 26, 2019 If we get the Jmac deal done ASAP and he gets a few training sessions in and starts, I reckon we will have a good chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, Dylan said: If we get the Jmac deal done ASAP and he gets a few training sessions in and starts, I reckon we will have a good chance It seems a game of iffs. If JMac arrives. If he has enough time to work within squad and play effectively. If we can produce attacking football as seen in 2nd half against Nix and WSW (Syd obvious different class). If Bratts gets a run (hopefully not pending departure?) and most importantly, and least of my concerns, if Delbo and Bort put in anothet shift and keep us in the game against Syd. Lots of things are needing to come together. I am positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afif Adam Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 * sighs * Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 Maybe I'm naive or haven't been paying attention, but I just don't understand this talk about Brattan possibly leaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 Very confident of a win because we have such a good record against Sydney. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 This game will tell us where we are at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afif Adam Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 27 minutes ago, playmaker said: This game will tell us where we are at. game on the 23/2 will 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 1 hour ago, rass said: Maybe I'm naive or haven't been paying attention, but I just don't understand this talk about Brattan possibly leaving. Unlikely but he was linked with WSW early on (despite reports being he was too expensive) and then benched for the last game. That is all. Probably a case of overthinking as he has been consistently great for us this season. I hope that continues. 1 hour ago, playmaker said: This game will tell us where we are at. Pretty sure we have ascertained where we are at now. Not unless the squad gets a revamp will it need to be reevaluated. Seems we are the best of the rest - not Syd, Per or Vic, but better than the rest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 46 minutes ago, JMSTEP123 said: Seems we are the best of the rest When we are playing against 10 players at least. Our ladder position is flattering tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, playmaker said: When we are playing against 10 players at least. Our ladder position is flattering tbh. Do you think our formation and system needs changing? Leaving aside BF, where would you play RDL and who would you play up front? I’m scratching my head at WJ’s decision making. He seems to be playing almost everyone out of position at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 19 minutes ago, playmaker said: When we are playing against 10 players at least. Our ladder position is flattering tbh. I think us and Wellington are pretty equal, if we played 10 times we would win 4 each and draw a couple And were better than the others, were in our correct spot. It's just the top 3 are much better than us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Harrison said: Do you think our formation and system needs changing? No, we need a striker. 3 minutes ago, Harrison said: Leaving aside BF, where would you play RDL and who would you play up front? Unfortunately we can't ignore the BF situation and nor should we as it is a mistake not to put our best team on the pitch. Simple. 5 minutes ago, Harrison said: I’m scratching my head at WJ’s decision making. He seems to be playing almost everyone out of position at times. This is what happens when you try and 'fill in the gaps'. You compromised positions when you try to put a bandaide over others. For example, RDL playing ST while Atkinson is substandard at RB therefore creating 2 problems instead of one. Florin at LW instead of CM/CAM while MOH was the quality Visa that should have been there. Also no natural high quality ST making smart runs and fending off or drawing in defences stops midfield opportunities to create plays and goals therefore results in a disfunctional attacking transition and creativity. As I have said prior, imagine how we would be playing with RDL, Forin, BF and MOH all having played together in their correct positions for the last 10 games. Vastly different IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, playmaker said: No, we need a striker. Unfortunately we can't ignore the BF situation and nor should we as it is a mistake not to put our best team on the pitch. Simple. This is what happens when you try and 'fill in the gaps'. You compromised positions when you try to put a bandaide over others. For example, RDL playing ST while Atkinson is substandard at RB therefore creating 2 problems instead of one. Florin at LW instead of CM/CAM while MOH was the quality Visa that should have been there. Also no natural high quality ST making smart runs and fending off or drawing in defences stops midfield opportunities to create plays and goals therefore results in a disfunctional attacking transition and creativity. As I have said prior, imagine how we would be playing with RDL, Forin, BF and MOH all having played together in their correct positions for the last 10 games. Vastly different IMO. Thats it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 Unpopular opinion. If we can’t play Bruno and Dario is injured De Laet is easily the next best choice as striker. if McLaren or Suarez doesn’t appear we should start him there vs Sydney 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Shahanga said: Unpopular opinion. If we can’t play Bruno and Dario is injured De Laet is easily the next best choice as striker. if McLaren or Suarez doesn’t appear we should start him there vs Sydney Bort shouldn't be our marquee and now this comment,is everything alright mate? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 21 minutes ago, Shahanga said: Unpopular opinion. If we can’t play Bruno and Dario is injured De Laet is easily the next best choice as striker. if McLaren or Suarez doesn’t appear we should start him there vs Sydney Utilitarian approach: best outcome for the most amount of people. Da Laet was scoring them from RB and is as striker too - probably at roughly the same rate. Atkinson is a liability at RB. Wales forward has been okay. Best to play Da Laet at RB, ascertain clean sheets and go for the 1 nil wins that everyone grumps about. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, JMSTEP123 said: Utilitarian approach: best outcome for the most amount of people. Da Laet was scoring them from RB and is as striker too - probably at roughly the same rate. Atkinson is a liability at RB. Wales forward has been okay. Best to play Da Laet at RB, ascertain clean sheets and go for the 1 nil wins that everyone grumps about. Tend to agree. With a proper striker we can revert to something like a 4-3-3 and have RDL at RB but let him push high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Harrison said: Tend to agree. With a proper striker we can revert to something like a 4-3-3 and have RDL at RB but let him push high. He has a wicked cross on him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afif Adam Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 fuc man just release Bruno already, we obviously don't wanna play him so what's holding us back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Afif Adam said: fuc man just release Bruno already, we obviously don't wanna play him so what's holding us back If we release him he can walk freely into another A-League team. We’d also get nothing for him, despite spending a reported $1.5 million on him this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afif Adam Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Harrison said: If we release him he can walk freely into another A-League team. We’d also get nothing for him, despite spending a reported $1.5 million on him this season. we either play him or we don't,  if he does walk freely into another team then thats our fuck up..at the end of the day I hope we get to the bottom of this and get an explanation of what really happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 Just now, Afif Adam said: we either play him or we don't,  if he does walk freely into another team then thats our fuck up. Not a fuck-up if we can easily prevent him from doing so. This is a competition and we’re not letting him score goals for our competitors. I don’t think CFG care if it’s unfair. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) I'm anticipating a *snoozefest and a late 1-0 win Fucking autocorrect Edited January 27, 2019 by KSK_47 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 38 minutes ago, KSK_47 said: I'm anticipating a shortest and a late 1-0 win Hope so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXIOM Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Harrison said: If we release him he can walk freely into another A-League team. We’d also get nothing for him, despite spending a reported $1.5 million on him this season. Moving west I'm hearing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 3 hours ago, JMSTEP123 said: Utilitarian approach: best outcome for the most amount of people. Da Laet was scoring them from RB and is as striker too - probably at roughly the same rate. Atkinson is a liability at RB. Wales forward has been okay. Best to play Da Laet at RB, ascertain clean sheets and go for the 1 nil wins that everyone grumps about. Agree: Either Galekovic or Birighitti in goal. IMO should depend on our intentions for next season (Birighitti and Bouzanis under contract). Back line; De Laet, Delbridge, Schenkeveld, Jamieson. Pierias to come on when De Laet comes off. DM: Baccus and Brattan. AM: Croissant. McGree to come on when Croissant comes off. Forwards: Wales, Najjar, and Don't Know. No idea who to play on the LW - seems we've stuffed this position up all season. Another comment: If, as has been reported, we are struggling to fit a new signing under the salary cap limit with the senior players that we've got now, then we're paying several far too much for what they contribute. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 1 hour ago, AXIOM said: Moving west I'm hearing West Melbourne, Adelaide or Perth? I've always thought the former was an obvious move with his family settled. Exactly the sort of big name a new club needs too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 7 hours ago, playmaker said: This game will tell us where we are at. Is that mid table mediocrity by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK_47 Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 7 hours ago, playmaker said: Hope so Was supposed to say snoozefest. But yeah hoping for the 1-0 late win, but not the snoozefest as much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AXIOM Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 2 hours ago, fensaddler said: West Melbourne, Adelaide or Perth? I've always thought the former was an obvious move with his family settled. Exactly the sort of big name a new club needs too. Perth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 Expecting zero shots against Sydney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afif Adam Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 we'll win or draw this just cos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) I am not sure finishing top is possible now, and if we dont get a win here I struggle to see how we make the top two. So that leaves a GF win to get into ACL I think. Only real chance of ACL we have IMO is finishing third and hoping that the GF winners comes from the top two. Im still not convinced that just signing a striker will be the difference, Bruno was isolated all throughout the start of the season. But I guess we can only wait and see. So last 10 rounds... We face Sydney twice (A+A) and Perth (H) and Victory (A) once. Edited January 28, 2019 by Dylan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted January 28, 2019 Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Dylan said: I am not sure finishing top is possible now, and if we dont get a win here I struggle to see how we make the top two. So that leaves a GF win to get into ACL I think Another season of deferred dominance. By and large this season has been embarrasing. I hope it is all for something and we can look back and praise it for its necessity. If not, just another season without excuse. It does shit me CFG look at 10 years plan for dominance. I get in the Premier League to compete will take years of investment and planning, but look what Poppa has achieved in Perth in less than a season. I swear the difference in the HAL is a decent manager, and that does not need long term evolutionary changes but a bit of hunger and drive early on. We could be so far ahead of where we currently are and there seems no need to prolong the inevitable with the backing of CFG. Surely the process can be hastened. Edited January 28, 2019 by JMSTEP123 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jw1739 Posted January 28, 2019 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Dylan said: I am not sure finishing top is possible now, and if we dont get a win here I struggle to see how we make the top two. So that leaves a GF win to get into ACL I think. Only real chance of ACL we have IMO is finishing third and hoping that the GF winners comes from the top two. Im still not convinced that just signing a striker will be the difference, Bruno was isolated all throughout the start of the season. But I guess we can only wait and see. So last 10 rounds... We face Sydney twice (A+A) and Perth (H) and Victory (A) once. I look at it this way. Each club has 11 matches left. We have 27 points from 16 matches, which on a pro-rata basis will give us 45-46 points. Perth would have to have a dramatic collapse in form for that to be enough to overhaul them. Another way of looking at it is that Perth are 10 points in front of us, meaning that we have to get 11 more points than Perth do in the remaining matches to overhaul them. My conclusion: we won't be Premiers. You can do the same thing with each of the other clubs. Given that in addition to the matches that you mention we have to play Phoenix (A) , and Adelaide twice (H), my conclusion is that we will finish somewhere between 4th and 6th, more likely than not in 5th or 6th. 3 hours ago, JMSTEP123 said: Another season of deferred dominance. By and large this season has been embarrasing. I hope it is all for something and we can look back and praise it for its necessity. If not, just another season without excuse. It does shit me CFG look at 10 years plan for dominance. I get in the Premier League to compete will take years of investment and planning, but look what Poppa has achieved in Perth in less than a season. I swear the difference in the HAL is a decent manager, and that does not need long term evolutionary changes but a bit of hunger and drive early on. We could be so far ahead of where we currently are and there seems no need to prolong the inevitable with the backing of CFG. Surely the process can be hastened. I agree completely. It's absolute bullshit to say that it will take 10 years to transform Melbourne Heart into a team that will be competitive in the A-League and hence go into the Asian Champions League. By saying that, or something like it, CFG are admitting their own incompetence. If you look carefully you will see that this season we have taken another step backwards right throughout the club. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afif Adam Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 3 - 0 Maclaren to score a hat trick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mus-28 Posted January 29, 2019 Report Share Posted January 29, 2019 8 hours ago, Afif Adam said: 3 - 0 Maclaren to score a hat trick I genuinely wouldn't be surprised to see this happen, except Maclaren turns out in Sydney colours and fits mysteriously under the cap. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted January 31, 2019 Report Share Posted January 31, 2019 Sydney FC v Melbourne City FC Jubilee Stadium, Kogarah Kick-Off: 5:00PM (Local) (5:00PM (AEDT)) Referee: Jarred Gillett Assistant Referee 1: Owen Goldrick Assistant Referee 2: Greg Taylor Fourth Official: Adrian Arndt VAR: Craig Zetter Sydney FC squad: 1.Andrew REDMAYNE (gk), 2.Aaron CALVER, 3.Ben WARLAND, 4.Alex WILKINSON, 5. Jop van der LINDEN, 6.Josh BRILLANTE, 8.Paulo RETRE, 9.Adam LE FONDRE, 10.Milos NINKOVIC, 11.Daniel DE SILVA, 13.Brandon O’NEILL, 14.Alex BROSQUE (c), 16. Reza GHOOCHANNEJHAD, 18.Jacob TRATT, 20.Alex CISAK (gk), 23.Rhyan GRANT, 24.Cam DEVLIN, 31.Luke IVANOVIC. **two to be omitted** Ins: 5.Jop van der LINDEN (return from injury), 14.Alex BROSQUE (return from injury), 16. Reza GHOOCHANNEJHAD (new signing), 18.Jacob TRATT (return from injury), 23.Rhyan GRANT (return from international duty), Outs: 7.Michael ZULLO (suspended -1 week), 21.Charles LOKOLI-NGOY (not selected), 25. Joel KING (not selected) Unavailable: 12.Trent BUHAGIAR (ACL – indefinite), 17.Anthony CACERES (calf – 3 weeks), 22.Siem DE JONG (knee – 3 weeks), 19.Chris ZUVELA (knee – indefinite). Melbourne City FC squad: 1.Mark BIRIGHITTI (gk), 2.Ritchie De LAET, 3.Scott JAMIESON (c), 4.Harrison DELBRIDGE, 5.Bart SCHENKEVELD, 7.Rostyn GRIFFITHS, 8.Riley MCGREE, 10.Dario VIDOSIC, 13.Nathaniel ATKINSON, 15.Kearyn BACCUS, 18.Eugene GALEKOVIC (gk), 19.Lachlan WALES, 21.Ramy NAJJARINE, 25.Iacopo LA ROCCA, 22.Curtis GOOD, 26.Luke BRATTAN, 27.Florin BERENGUER-BOHRER, 30.Moudi NAJJAR **two to be omitted** Ins: 10.Dario VIDOSIC (promoted), 22.Curtis GOOD (promoted) Outs: Nil Unavailable: Nil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imtellingyou Posted February 1, 2019 Report Share Posted February 1, 2019 If we lose this game, we won't need JM for the rest of the season. No ACL spot and we aren't strong enough to win the final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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