HeartFc Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 This bloke doesn't need to set the world on fire, he'll be keeping La Rocca off the pitch. Job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted September 14, 2018 Report Share Posted September 14, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, HeartFc said: This bloke doesn't need to set the world on fire, he'll be keeping La Rocca off the pitch. Job done. La Rocca was never on the pitch besides 5 games 19 months ago. Get rid of him use the money towards more useful players who actually train and compete. Edited September 14, 2018 by Mr MO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Le Cube Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 He seems like a decent visa signing but it looks like I'm the only one a little underwhelmed with de Laet as a marquee. I'm not opposed to having a marquee defender but when Wellington are able to sign Steven Taylor under the cap I was hoping we could find are higher quality of player than de Laet for marquee. The pedigree of imports across the league has increased significantly this season and although we appear to have improved depth, I'm not sure that the absolute quality of our first XI has significantly improved (I can see I am in the minority with this view). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted September 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 3 hours ago, Jacques Le Cube said: He seems like a decent visa signing but it looks like I'm the only one a little underwhelmed with de Laet as a marquee. I'm not opposed to having a marquee defender but when Wellington are able to sign Steven Taylor under the cap I was hoping we could find are higher quality of player than de Laet for marquee. The pedigree of imports across the league has increased significantly this season and although we appear to have improved depth, I'm not sure that the absolute quality of our first XI has significantly improved (I can see I am in the minority with this view). I saw Wellington knocked out of the FFA Cup by Bentleigh Greens. They - including Taylor - were absolutely awful that evening. I really can't see any issue with De Laet as a marquee player. IMO you're forgetting that the concept of a "marquee player" has changed over the life of the A-League; it has morphed from the "big name player who will put bums on seats" into a player paid at least in part outside the salary cap. The original concept is now filled by the Cahill/Honda "full season guest marquee player" paid at least in part by FFA. I'm prepared to back the judgement of the CFG scouting network, especially since Joyce and De Laet have worked with each other before. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 41 minutes ago, jw1739 said: I saw Wellington knocked out of the FFA Cup by Bentleigh Greens. They - including Taylor - were absolutely awful that evening. I really can't see any issue with De Laet as a marquee player. IMO you're forgetting that the concept of a "marquee player" has changed over the life of the A-League; it has morphed from the "big name player who will put bums on seats" into a player paid at least in part outside the salary cap. The original concept is now filled by the Cahill/Honda "full season guest marquee player" paid at least in part by FFA. I'm prepared to back the judgement of the CFG scouting network, especially since Joyce and De Laet have worked with each other before. Im not trying to talk up this signing too much, considering the history we've had with marquee signings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeming Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 4 hours ago, Jacques Le Cube said: He seems like a decent visa signing but it looks like I'm the only one a little underwhelmed with de Laet as a marquee. I'm not opposed to having a marquee defender but when Wellington are able to sign Steven Taylor under the cap I was hoping we could find are higher quality of player than de Laet for marquee. The pedigree of imports across the league has increased significantly this season and although we appear to have improved depth, I'm not sure that the absolute quality of our first XI has significantly improved (I can see I am in the minority with this view). I am also not that excited by this signing. For me it will depend on where he plays. If we use a marquee spot on RB then that seems a big waste. If he plays CB and plays well there then great. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, Deeming said: I am also not that excited by this signing. For me it will depend on where he plays. If we use a marquee spot on RB then that seems a big waste. If he plays CB and plays well there then great. I'm still thinking Waz is planning on formation changes during attack and defence. During a break, De Laet is a wide attacking defender, while we are defending he will push into the centre of defence. Waz has only coached him as a CB as I expect De Laet will be a CB for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citymad Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 3 minutes ago, haz said: I'm still thinking Waz is planning on formation changes during attack and defence. During a break, De Laet is a wide attacking defender, while we are defending he will push into the centre of defence. Waz has only coached him as a CB as I expect De Laet will be a CB for us He played as a right back during training today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 8 minutes ago, citymad said: He played as a right back during training today. RIP Atkinson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 9 minutes ago, haz said: RIP Atkinson I fully expect Atkinson to be born again as a winger this season, and get a reasonable run at it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 16 minutes ago, bt50 said: I fully expect Atkinson to be born again as a winger this season, and get a reasonable run at it. Who gets displaced then? (on paper atm obviously) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchcolm Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, haz said: Who gets displaced then? (on paper atm obviously) The right winger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 4 minutes ago, Inchcolm said: The right winger We have about 4 players who can play there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 2 hours ago, bt50 said: I fully expect Atkinson to be born again as a winger this season, and get a reasonable run at it. Which is why he came on there v Newscastle. Despite people thinking he's a gun RB, I think he's actually a liability there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakz7 Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 Song idea: Afternoon De Laet 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young Polak Posted September 15, 2018 Report Share Posted September 15, 2018 It would be good for a young bloke like atkinson to be experimented in other positions to be more versatile rather than being fixed at right back throughout his development. If anything, Richie can show him how its done by an experienced veteran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Originalmeme Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 10 hours ago, hakz7 said: Song idea: Afternoon De Laet can we pin this comment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citypool Posted September 16, 2018 Report Share Posted September 16, 2018 I’d loan Atkinson to Wellington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayv36 Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 I hope RDL starts on Wednesday. He apparently was one of Villa's better players throughout their preseason games, so much so Villa fans are 'flabbergasted' to see he go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 6 hours ago, citypool said: I’d loan Atkinson to Wellington Why? It's not like he'll see no game time here whatsoever, irrespective of whether RDL plays RB or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, bt50 said: Why? It's not like he'll see no game time here whatsoever, irrespective of whether RDL plays RB or not. Indeed, at very least he's first replacement at right back, even if RDL proves to be first pick. If RDL plays centrally, he's still our first choice RB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 I don’t think he will play RB I think I read somewhere that when he was with Joyce, Joyce saw him as a CB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Dylan said: I don’t think he will play RB I think I read somewhere that when he was with Joyce, Joyce saw him as a CB I tend to think the same, although I'd imagine he may play at RB at some point due to personnel etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 It's quite an astute signing because RDL will perform at a high level regardless of the position, similar to Vidosic does in midfield and up forward. If Atkinson is performing, RDL can move centrally or into the midfield. If Atkinson isn't, then he covers RB. And it's the same for any midfielders or CBs that underperform. Having good players that can play in more than one position, to a decent level, is vital in a salary-capped league. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted September 17, 2018 Report Share Posted September 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Harrison said: It's quite an astute signing because RDL will perform at a high level regardless of the position, similar to Vidosic does in midfield and up forward. If Atkinson is performing, RDL can move centrally or into the midfield. If Atkinson isn't, then he covers RB. And it's the same for any midfielders or CBs that underperform. Having good players that can play in more than one position, to a decent level, is vital in a salary-capped league. I think this applies to almost the whole squad this season except Birighitti. All our players can play across their lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughJass Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 Mentioned on talking city Facebook and in the Ross thread, could he be recalled after Steve Bruce getting the sack from Villa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, HughJass said: Mentioned on talking city Facebook and in the Ross thread, could he be recalled after Steve Bruce getting the sack from Villa Depends on the terms of the loan. I suspect there are commitments which would make immediate recall difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) Pretty sure he can't go back there until the transfer window reopens for a starter, but even so, it would all depend on the terms of the loan contract and the clauses inserted. Which we'll never find out unless its reported by someone that actually knows. Essentially, nothing to see here until there is something to see. Edited October 4, 2018 by bt50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 hour ago, bt50 said: Pretty sure he can't go back there until the transfer window reopens for a starter, but even so, it would all depend on the terms of the loan contract and the clauses inserted. Which we'll never find out unless its reported by someone that actually knows. Essentially, nothing to see here until there is something to see. Correct; the minimum loan period is until the next registration period. Which I think means January 2019 in Villa's case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 ha+ Man, if the small chance this happens I might as well call some Voodoo doctor to try and un-curse this club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchcolm Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 It is a question of ifs. His contract with us will decide if he can be called back. There is absolutely no chance of us knowing what is in it. If we paid a loan fee for the season, he cannot be recalled. If it is written in his contract that he may be recalled and we could lose him. Then there is the new manager if he does not want him then he stays. If I carry on much longer I will need a drink. Let' wait and see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 2 hours ago, haz said: ha+ Man, if the small chance this happens I might as well call some Voodoo doctor to try and un-curse this club According to Bruce Grobelaar, you need to piss on all four posts. And the rugby posts don't count. 1 hour ago, Inchcolm said: It is a question of ifs. His contract with us will decide if he can be called back. There is absolutely no chance of us knowing what is in it. If we paid a loan fee for the season, he cannot be recalled. If it is written in his contract that he may be recalled and we could lose him. Then there is the new manager if he does not want him then he stays. If I carry on much longer I will need a drink. Let' wait and see All this is true and wise, and I'd say the same myself. Except Villa. Track record for shafting us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted October 4, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Inchcolm said: It is a question of ifs. His contract with us will decide if he can be called back. There is absolutely no chance of us knowing what is in it. If we paid a loan fee for the season, he cannot be recalled. If it is written in his contract that he may be recalled and we could lose him. Then there is the new manager if he does not want him then he stays. If I carry on much longer I will need a drink. Let' wait and see Technically you may be correct. But A-League player contracts are terminated by mutual agreement on a regular basis. Surely, if Villa want him back, De Laet wants to return, and City are prepared to release him, then the contract can be terminated? I always need a drink. It's just that this Forum intensifies the longing. Edited October 4, 2018 by jw1739 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchcolm Posted October 4, 2018 Report Share Posted October 4, 2018 @jw1739 only 1 if 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 On 04/10/2018 at 5:03 PM, Inchcolm said: It is a question of ifs. His contract with us will decide if he can be called back. There is absolutely no chance of us knowing what is in it. If we paid a loan fee for the season, he cannot be recalled. If it is written in his contract that he may be recalled and we could lose him. Then there is the new manager if he does not want him then he stays. If I carry on much longer I will need a drink. Let' wait and see If you stick to your apparent plan to follow this team, you’ll need a lot more than one drink, I assure you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchcolm Posted October 5, 2018 Report Share Posted October 5, 2018 26 minutes ago, Shahanga said: If you stick to your apparent plan to follow this team, you’ll need a lot more than one drink, I assure you! You should see the size of my drink. That is when I can get my glass from my wife 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 Green line for me said pre season we were due a good marquee. love a good set of initials too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Dylan said: Green line for me said pre season we were due a good marquee. love a good set of initials too Koren v Newcastle. Let's just hold off that green line for now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 15 minutes ago, n i k o said: Koren v Newcastle. Let's just hold off that green line for now. A marauding full back who has already scored in only his first game, who can actually defend as well... Nah, he's the Real DeaL. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted October 25, 2018 Report Share Posted October 25, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, rass said: A marauding full back who has already scored in only his first game, who can actually defend as well... Nah, he's the Real DeaL. This club has taught me to ride the brake on my excitement early on for any player Edited October 25, 2018 by n i k o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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