Dylan Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 (edited) Be honest with yourselves and realistic. None of this pages of crap, that you wont be buying a membership unless we win everything next season, which is the usual around here. Out of transperency I voted Championship + ACL until more is made about the premiership.... Championship > Premiership IMO Edited May 12, 2018 by jw1739 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 has to make top two , plus grand final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 A: Double ->ACL Berth B: Premiers or Championship C: ACL Berth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Imo none of the above for a pass : for mine its ACL and a trophy. You'd hope we are at very last still in the race for the premiership with a couple weeks to go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysHeart Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 That is an easy answer - Premiership + ACL berth is a must. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted June 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, bt50 said: Imo none of the above for a pass : for mine its ACL and a trophy. You'd hope we are at very last still in the race for the premiership with a couple weeks to go. I'll add that to the poll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Embee Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Still need to see exactly how the squad is filled out, but for me I'd accept an begrudgingly accept an ACL berth as a pass mark, but would be aiming for some kind of silverware to go with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 9 minutes ago, Embee said: Still need to see exactly how the squad is filled out, but for me I'd accept an begrudgingly accept an ACL berth as a pass mark, but would be aiming for some kind of silverware to go with it. Yeh pretty much what i think. Any of the three trophies and an ACL berth would be hard to consider a fail imo, even if not necessarily the result we want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PORCHO Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 18 minutes ago, bt50 said: Yeh pretty much what i think. Any of the three trophies and an ACL berth would be hard to consider a fail imo, even if not necessarily the result we want. 100% While we would all like to win everything, we need to be realistic. Last year we very likely should have won significantly more, poor coaching screwed that for us. Depending on signings, we could likely have the same expectations but at this stage, with the current squad and a new coach, assuming the players we sign are passes only(no terrible players but no superstars either - just to balance it out because we'll likely get a mix) a trophy of some sort and an ACL spot would be the minimum expectation... Of course if we end up signing 3 top players and some more good youngsters then likely our expectations will rise. We do need to be patient, new coach and all, but we still have one of the best teams despite needing to plug some holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFG_82 Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 1 hour ago, AlwaysHeart said: That is an easy answer - Premiership + ACL berth is a must. What do rate higher the Premiership or the Championship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Just like my women I have zero expectations so then when I do get any joy it's greatly appreciated. So I'll be satisfied with a Grand Final berth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I know this isn't an option but I'll be content with some more exciting players and some more passion during games, not the flogs and attitude from last season. Just want to feel proud & connected with my club, prices aren't always a priority for me. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I can't go with any of them at this stage. I don't know how to quantify it, but IMO the first thing he is here for is to change the culture of the club. We had a shit culture last season, but we still won a trophy (and won it well). IMO the trophies and ACL will follow once we demonstrate that we have a culture of grit and determination to play every match out to the last second, not to cough up draws after leading or defeats after we've been on level terms, and to come from behind to win. I think we'll know 8-9 matches into the season whether Wazza has been able to make a difference in that respect. Unfortunately I don't think it will come easily, certainly not just because we sign good players because that hasn't worked before. Another reason I don't think it will come easily is because the same old assistant coaching team is there, for the moment anyway, and Wazza can't be everywhere at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisphantomfortress Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I will reserve my full judgement on this until we have a full squad, but I am leaning towards ACL qualification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 1 hour ago, jw1739 said: I can't go with any of them at this stage. I don't know how to quantify it, but IMO the first thing he is here for is to change the culture of the club. We had a shit culture last season, but we still won a trophy (and won it well). IMO the trophies and ACL will follow once we demonstrate that we have a culture of grit and determination to play every match out to the last second, not to cough up draws after leading or defeats after we've been on level terms, and to come from behind to win. I think we'll know 8-9 matches into the season whether Wazza has been able to make a difference in that respect. Unfortunately I don't think it will come easily, certainly not just because we sign good players because that hasn't worked before. Another reason I don't think it will come easily is because the same old assistant coaching team is there, for the moment anyway, and Wazza can't be everywhere at once. I am with you on this. A long term cultural change is more important than a title of any sort in the first year. Don't want to see a quick fix for short term lustre and then back to a cancerous culture when he leaves. If need be I would like to see a total shake up of everything at MC to get rid of the rot, and for Wazza to instil a professional, unified, competent and winning culture, and where players and managers want to bleed for the club. Second year results are more important IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Top six pass mark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MXG Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 I have no expectations. Not even GF. But I expect the change in our gameplay, strategy, players attitude, coaching staff brain level. The result will come with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 top 3 with acl next season win the grand final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 39 minutes ago, n i k o said: Top six pass mark 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 3 hours ago, DFG_82 said: What do rate higher the Premiership or the Championship? This is a question that gets discussed a bit around here. I used to firmly believe it's the championship but now i think it actually depends on the season. Take last season for example. Sydney dominated yet if it wasn't for a Muscat coaching brainfade, they could've lost the grand final. Hence the premiership was a truer representation of the season and the one rightly more important. Other seasons might be much closer with more than one team in the hunt for the prem. In my eyes then, the championship becomes the prize that is more important. Anyway i think ACL is the minimum as it therefore means they would be in the hunt for both premiership and championship, with hopefully winning at least one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nah brah Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 doesnt matter what we want from the coach. cfg have not bought in someone to win the comp. they bought in someone to develop the players they intend to sell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 10 minutes ago, nah brah said: doesnt matter what we want from the coach. cfg have not bought in someone to win the comp. they bought in someone to develop the players they intend to sell. Lel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 2 minutes ago, bt50 said: Lel. Is it funny if it's the truth...not that they don't want to win but developing and selling off players is the preferred outcome over winning the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFG_82 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 CFG could have probably picked a better league to invest in if their primary interest was developing and selling off players. Whilst the Club continues the have the most expensive squad in the league I don't doubt their commitment to City being successful. Now if they were to start playing mostly youth players and not investing in any worthwhile Marquee players I would be concerned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silva10 Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 Hopefully we can win something. However that can't be guaranteed, therefore a good season would be for us to challenge on all fronts. I put the pass has ACL berth. However, even that maybe too ambitious because he is new to the league and hasn't much senior management experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted June 23, 2017 Report Share Posted June 23, 2017 45 minutes ago, DFG_82 said: CFG could have probably picked a better league to invest in if their primary interest was developing and selling off players. Whilst the Club continues the have the most expensive squad in the league I don't doubt their commitment to City being successful. Now if they were to start playing mostly youth players and not investing in any worthwhile Marquee players I would be concerned. I think its a case of marketing and selling players. You'll develop better players in Brazil but you arn't going to gain any additonal revenue as a result of markeitng the City brand there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nah brah Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 13 hours ago, DFG_82 said: CFG could have probably picked a better league to invest in if their primary interest was developing and selling off players. Whilst the Club continues the have the most expensive squad in the league I don't doubt their commitment to City being successful. Now if they were to start playing mostly youth players and not investing in any worthwhile Marquee players I would be concerned. long term they are getting their foot in. but anyone can see that australia has been poor in development of its own players over the last decade. there is a gaping hole and money to be made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 (edited) He needs to improve the team: no more soft cock performances where the team just doesn't turn up no more crumbling when the run of the game turns against us no more goals conceded in the first and last minutes of a half because the team are still mentally in the dressing room no more timid displays against physical teams like Perth No more poor discipline on the field some steel and desire when playing away from AAMI Park players that know their roles and understand the team philosophy no crumbling when the team is doing well and there's some expectation of success I expect performances and consistency that compel me to renew my season ticket and want to drive 700km round trip to a home game I expect a Premiership and ACL qualification, otherwise send him home on the boat Edited June 27, 2017 by belaguttman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Embee Posted June 27, 2017 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 I expect him to reduce the length of Bela's trip to games so I don't have to read about it on the forum anymore 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 22 minutes ago, Embee said: I expect him to reduce the length of Bela's trip to games so I don't have to read about it on the forum anymore You won't hear about it again when it's worth making the trip 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Pass mark in his first season? I'd take a convincing top 4 finish, by convincing I mean most of the things bela mentioned. He's got to make the squad mentally strong. If he can cut out all the soft shit and win a few games I'll be happy. So none of these options. I'm thinking less arbitrary than a certain trophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 After going back on some of these expectations Wazza has pretty failed but many have loaded up on his second season. So I would be interested in seeing others thoughts on next seasons pass mark for Wazza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imtellingyou Posted May 10, 2018 Report Share Posted May 10, 2018 This should be club's pass topic. Wazza may not be challenged now when there is no ACL spot. One more season in 10 clubs league, it doesn't sound much for the coach from Manchester system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belaguttman Posted May 12, 2018 Report Share Posted May 12, 2018 Next season's pass mark would require: For the men's team GrandFinal appearance Premiership Improved men's team mentality a more attractive football style and for him personally: better use of the bench more effective tactical flexibility long pants. Short pants require a Gibson SG guitar and Angus Young's version of a Chuck Berry duck walk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted May 12, 2018 Report Share Posted May 12, 2018 Any trophy + ACL berth or he can fuck back to England. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted May 12, 2018 Report Share Posted May 12, 2018 For 2018/19: Must at least equal 2017/18 with third place or better finish. Bring at least one of our youth players to a level where CFG can either take him to Manchester and loan him out, or be sold directly from Melbourne City to a good Euro club. By the end of the season have at least another youth player a regular starter for City. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted May 12, 2018 Report Share Posted May 12, 2018 Win the whole fukn lot. That's not being unrealistic either, it's just where I think they need to aim now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrillhouse Posted May 12, 2018 Report Share Posted May 12, 2018 top 2 with guaranteed acl is the absolute minimum get all visa players on the pitch consistently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted May 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2018 Yeah Im sick of waiting. I want the double next season. Funnily enough Wazza only has a two year contract which ends at the end of next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted May 12, 2018 Report Share Posted May 12, 2018 Aim/goal and pass mark arent the same imo. Realistically ACL qualification will always be a bare pass. I think fans will be very disappointed without a trophy however 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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