thisphantomfortress Posted February 20, 2017 Report Share Posted February 20, 2017 37 minutes ago, SF33 said: It's a long bow to say that their last game was the one that has really mattered in the league this season and not the 19 that preceded it. They've lost one game all season (next best is five) and conceded 10 goals (next best is 24). If that's not a sign that they've been mentally tough this season - at least to this point - then I don't know what is. Not to forget that they came from behind to beat the tards on Aus day, the game that effectively killed off victory's title challenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 I actually don't think it's over just yet. Through playmakers hard headed opinion there is the possibility that Sydney may have a few more losses. And while his logic lacks well, logic, it could happen as it did with our women's team. I think regardless* of what happens this week the clincher will be the smurfs v tards game the following week. *besides perhaps Sydney winning and Tards losing this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) 53 minutes ago, n i k o said: I actually don't think it's over just yet. Through playmakers hard headed opinion there is the possibility that Sydney may have a few more losses. And while his logic lacks well, logic, it could happen as it did with our women's team. I think regardless* of what happens this week the clincher will be the smurfs v tards game the following week. *besides perhaps Sydney winning and Tards losing this week. I definitely see where hes coming from, there's certainly a possibility that they might go to pieces somewhat. Even when Brisbane finally fell in their unbeaten streak they ended up losing 5 on the bounce before recovering. Added to the fact that Sydney don't look any more outstanding than the other top teams, both on paper and on the pitch and have seriously rode their luck over the course of the season then there's a case that they could fall away for sure. Most have taken issue with the 'mentally fragile' part for good reason though; there's no way possible they go undefeated for 19 rounds without showing serious steel, not to mention the come from behind results they've obtained throughout the season. At the end of the day I still think they'll win the plate by at least 5 points, but may drop a few games on the run home. Come finals however, game on moles. If we can string together some good form over the next two months and finish in 3rd, I'm supremely confident we can go all the way. Edited February 21, 2017 by bt50 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 2 hours ago, bt50 said: I definitely see where hes coming from, there's certainly a possibility that they might go to pieces somewhat. Even when Brisbane finally fell in their unbeaten streak they ended up losing 5 on the bounce before recovering. Added to the fact that Sydney don't look any more outstanding than the other top teams, both on paper and on the pitch and have seriously rode their luck over the course of the season then there's a case that they could fall away for sure. Most have taken issue with the 'mentally fragile' part for good reason though; there's no way possible they go undefeated for 19 rounds without showing serious steel, not to mention the come from behind results they've obtained throughout the season. At the end of the day I still think they'll win the plate by at least 5 points, but may drop a few games on the run home. Come finals however, game on moles. If we can string together some good form over the next two months and finish in 3rd, I'm supremely confident we can go all the way. We finish 3rd and we effectively have 2 home finals (the second being at Etihad against the Tards) After the last Derby, i left gutted, but at the same time very confident that if we get another shot at them in the finals, we've got them covered. Some people might find this strange as fuck, but i cant think of anything better than going away for a final and winning it. Would feel like it was just us in the away bay and the players celebrating. Lets get past these cunts first. 2-1 to us 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 16 minutes ago, [LIBBA] said: Some people might find this strange as fuck, but i cant think of anything better than going away for a final and winning it. Would feel like it was just us in the away bay and the players celebrating. Really agree with this statement. Winning a Grand Final on the road would be amazing, even better than winning it at home. You'd have all the die hards that have forked out their hard earned to travel with you at the venue, likely the same die hards that had experienced the past 7 seasons that were Heart and the takeover, and would get to celebrate with them, as opposed to some just going home content after a great win. So much more of a personal experience. The idea alone makes me moist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 20 minutes ago, bt50 said: Really agree with this statement. Winning a Grand Final on the road would be amazing, even better than winning it at home. You'd have all the die hards that have forked out their hard earned to travel with you at the venue, likely the same die hards that had experienced the past 7 seasons that were Heart and the takeover, and would get to celebrate with them, as opposed to some just going home content after a great win. So much more of a personal experience. The idea alone makes me moist. Would be amazing and you'd have no excuse to not celebrate long and hard into the night. Totally agree on the die hards being in the ones there with you as well. Just gotta get there first. Will be a massive raod trip i reckon as you can only imagine that every airline would jack up the prices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 12 minutes ago, [LIBBA] said: Would be amazing and you'd have no excuse to not celebrate long and hard into the night. Totally agree on the die hards being in the ones there with you as well. Just gotta get there first. Will be a massive raod trip i reckon as you can only imagine that every airline would jack up the prices Getting way ahead of ourselves, but even a grand final loss, as crushing as it would be would make for a sick away trip. So many people would travel, and the week in the build up to the GF would be so good. Anyway, to this week, I'm also going 2-1, with us to score the first and last. Bruno double. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 1 hour ago, bt50 said: Getting way ahead of ourselves, but even a grand final loss, as crushing as it would be would make for a sick away trip. So many people would travel, and the week in the build up to the GF would be so good. Anyway, to this week, I'm also going 2-1, with us to score the first and last. Bruno double. Ain't that the truth. Let's win two games in a row first, before we start considering grand final trips. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 6 hours ago, bt50 said: I definitely see where hes coming from, there's certainly a possibility that they might go to pieces somewhat. Even when Brisbane finally fell in their unbeaten streak they ended up losing 5 on the bounce before recovering. Added to the fact that Sydney don't look any more outstanding than the other top teams, both on paper and on the pitch and have seriously rode their luck over the course of the season then there's a case that they could fall away for sure. Most have taken issue with the 'mentally fragile' part for good reason though; there's no way possible they go undefeated for 19 rounds without showing serious steel, not to mention the come from behind results they've obtained throughout the season. At the end of the day I still think they'll win the plate by at least 5 points, but may drop a few games on the run home. Come finals however, game on moles. If we can string together some good form over the next two months and finish in 3rd, I'm supremely confident we can go all the way. Good summary of where my thoughts are too BT. It still does mean we've got to up our game over where we've been through the middle of the season, but I sense we're moving in the right direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 3 hours ago, [LIBBA] said: We finish 3rd and we effectively have 2 home finals (the second being at Etihad against the Tards) After the last Derby, i left gutted, but at the same time very confident that if we get another shot at them in the finals, we've got them covered. Some people might find this strange as fuck, but i cant think of anything better than going away for a final and winning it. Would feel like it was just us in the away bay and the players celebrating. Lets get past these cunts first. 2-1 to us Just being hypothetical, but if first to fourth is Sydney, Victory, us and Roar, and in the semis we beat Victory and Roar beat Sydney, would we then get a home final at AAMI? And if so, unlikely but not impossible? And yes, getting way ahead of ourselves... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 24 minutes ago, fensaddler said: Just being hypothetical, but if first to fourth is Sydney, Victory, us and Roar, and in the semis we beat Victory and Roar beat Sydney, would we then get a home final at AAMI? And if so, unlikely but not impossible? And yes, getting way ahead of ourselves... Yes. The highest finishing side hosts the grand final. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 25 minutes ago, Jovan said: Yes. The highest finishing side hosts the grand final. Until we finish 3rd, beat Victory to face Sydney in the Final and FFA announce the final to be at Aami due to 'Financial' reasons. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris p Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 Rugby starting thursday night at aami ? fugg it : : 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellenic Hero Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 10 hours ago, Chris p said: Rugby starting thursday night at aami ? fugg it : : Can they play that shit on a farm somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, Chris p said: Rugby starting thursday night at aami ? fugg it : : And Victory play there on the day after we do. Hardly ideal. The rugby should be played on the Sunday... Even worse is what's to come in March. Rugby League on 16th March, Rugby on 17th, and we play Newcastle on the 18th. Victory cop it again on 2nd April with Rugby League the day before. Just woeful scheduling. http://www.aamipark.com.au/event/coming-events/ Edited February 21, 2017 by jw1739 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted February 21, 2017 Report Share Posted February 21, 2017 3 minutes ago, jw1739 said: And Victory play there on the day after we do. Hardly ideal. The rugby should be played on the Sunday... Even worse is what's to come in March. Rugby League on 16th March, Rugby on 17th, and we play Newcastle on the 18th. Victory cop it again on 2nd April with Rugby League the day before. Just woeful scheduling. http://www.aamipark.com.au/event/coming-events/ Not ideal, but the League isnt such a big issue, Union seems to have way more of an impact on the surface with the increase in scrums etc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[LIBBA] Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 1.Thomas SORENSEN (gk), 2.Manny MUSCAT, 3.Josh ROSE, 5.Ivan FRANJIC, 6.Osama MALIK, 8.Neil KILKENNY, 9.Nicolas COLAZO, 10.Anthony CACERES, 11.Bruce KAMAU, 12.Nick FITZGERALD, 17.Tim CAHILL, 18.Paulo RETRE, 21.Ruon TONGYIK, 23.Bruno FORNAROLI, 26.Luke BRATTAN, 27.Fernando BRANDAN, 34.Denis GENREAU, 40.Yaren SOZER (gk), **two to be omitted** Ins: 5.Ivan FRANJIC (returns from injury), 11.Bruce KAMAU (promoted) Outs: nil Unavailable: 22.Michael JAKOBSEN (calf – 1 week), 20.Dean BOUZANIS (suspended – 3 weeks), 7.Corey GAMEIRO (ACL – season), 28.Steve KUZMANOVSKI (ACL – season) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 5 minutes ago, [LIBBA] said: 1.Thomas SORENSEN (gk), 2.Manny MUSCAT, 3.Josh ROSE, 5.Ivan FRANJIC, 6.Osama MALIK, 8.Neil KILKENNY, 9.Nicolas COLAZO, 10.Anthony CACERES, 11.Bruce KAMAU, 12.Nick FITZGERALD, 17.Tim CAHILL, 18.Paulo RETRE, 21.Ruon TONGYIK, 23.Bruno FORNAROLI, 26.Luke BRATTAN, 27.Fernando BRANDAN, 34.Denis GENREAU, 40.Yaren SOZER (gk), **two to be omitted** Ins: 5.Ivan FRANJIC (returns from injury), 11.Bruce KAMAU (promoted) Outs: nil Unavailable: 22.Michael JAKOBSEN (calf – 1 week), 20.Dean BOUZANIS (suspended – 3 weeks), 7.Corey GAMEIRO (ACL – season), 28.Steve KUZMANOVSKI (ACL – season) Sorensen Franjic Malik Tongyik Rose Kilkenny Brattan Caceres Fitzgerald Fornaroli Brandan SUBS Sozer Cahill Colazo Kamau Muscat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Jakobsen is a worry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japiedog Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 2 years to the day when Willo scored his wonder goal against Sydney remember this period very well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted February 23, 2017 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 7 minutes ago, jw1739 said: Jakobsen is a worry. Every fucking year we always sign some Injury prone cunt in one of our most important positions. Hopeless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Confirmed Jakobson will be out for a Germano. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Without knowing anything I reackon Jakobsen is close but they are holding him back. He was probably 50/50 against Victory and since then they are being overly cautious to make sure he is 100% come finals. Although it is getting a bit like Aaron Hughes situation still early days though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fensaddler Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 57 minutes ago, haz said: Confirmed Jakobson will be out for a Germano. Yes, definite Germano. Classic case. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Not confident anymore about this game with Jakobsen out. Melb City 1-2 Sydney 17' Fornaroli 42' Brosque 77' OG Muscat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victards Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 Very keen for this game, expecting a good crowd and a win to come with. We generally play well against Shitney and i believe? that we have the best record against them in comparison to any other team. No reason why we cant add another W over them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 5 hours ago, Jovan said: Without knowing anything I reackon Jakobsen is close but they are holding him back. He was probably 50/50 against Victory and since then they are being overly cautious to make sure he is 100% come finals. Although it is getting a bit like Aaron Hughes situation still early days though. Hasn't he already played, like, three times as many games for us as Hughes did? He's missed a few games. Injuries happen. I think people just need to settle down. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSeater Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 8 hours ago, bt50 said: Sorensen Franjic Malik Tongyik Rose Kilkenny Brattan Caceres Fitzgerald Fornaroli Brandan SUBS Sozer Cahill Colazo Kamau Muscat Very hard to argue with this tbh. The only change I'd consider is dropping Brattan for Colazo in the middle, and against any other team I probably would, but against Sydney you don't really want to try anything too risky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 The days when we could counter attack 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted February 23, 2017 Report Share Posted February 23, 2017 18 hours ago, bt50 said: Sorensen Franjic Malik Tongyik Rose Kilkenny Brattan Caceres Fitzgerald Fornaroli Brandan SUBS Sozer Cahill Colazo Kamau Muscat As @bt50 mentioned most likely starting lineup. My only pondering is Kamau. He played arguably his best game against the Roar then was omitted for the Wellington game. I'm assuming it wasn't due to injury or fitness more tactical so I think he might be in the reckoning for a start. Fitzy or Brandan may have to warm the pine. Fitzy was superb last start but can be pretty predictable, Brandan had less influence last week but worked very hard and brings so much. Not sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpyknuckles Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 I reckon start Brandan, the syd defenders will be keeping a close eye on him as they have seen first hand he can smack one from long range, and skin them at every opportunity. Hoping this leaves Colazo/ Kamau/ Fitzy to set up Bruno who will score a hat trick. Simples. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyh001 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Woke up with the lead chords from So Happy Together stuck in my head. Must be game day (so fire up kents!!!) Hope that Cahill and Colazo get a bit of game time together (either starting on field or on bench); thought against Brisbane Colazo final delivery deserved a better target in the box. Would seem a waste of two big talents otherwise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 47 minutes ago, mattyh001 said: Hope that Cahill and Colazo get a bit of game time together (either starting on field or on bench); thought against Brisbane Colazo final delivery deserved a better target in the box. Would seem a waste of two big talents otherwise. Couldn't agree with you more as it seems like the perfect partnership. TBH I don't know why it hasn't been done regularly. I hope your right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 59 minutes ago, playmaker said: Couldn't agree with you more as it seems like the perfect partnership. TBH I don't know why it hasn't been done regularly. I hope your right. Probably because neither Cahill or Colazo are great going the other way. But Colazo did look improved last week so I guess we will know in a few hours. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEARTinator Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 8 hours ago, haz said: The days when we could counter attack Ruon told me to be there. I'm on my way mate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Jovan said: Probably because neither Cahill or Colazo are great going the other way. But Colazo did look improved last week so I guess we will know in a few hours. Easy to look good when you come on at 1-4 up. Much tougher test tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyh001 Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) Line up for tonight; Sorensen, Muscat, Franjic, Malik, Rose, Kilkenny, Bratten, Caceres, Fitzgerald, Fornaroli, Cahill Bench: Sozer, Tongyik, Retre, Kamau, Brandon. One recognized winger, three fullbacks, WTF? Edited February 24, 2017 by mattyh001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) Edited February 24, 2017 by haz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 Just now, haz said: We gonna lose. Do we never learn from our mistakes or our successes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted February 24, 2017 Report Share Posted February 24, 2017 (edited) Formation: 4-4-2 -------------------------Sorenson----------------------------- --Franjic----------Malik--------Muscat-----------Rose-- Fitzy-------------Brattan------Kilkenny---------Caceras -------------------Fornaroli--Cahill-------------------------- OR Formation: 4-3-3 -------------------------Sorenson----------------------------- --Franjic----------Malik--------Muscat-----------Rose-- ------------Caceras----Kilkenny------Brattan----------- Fitzy---------------------Cahill------------------Fornaroli Colazo is #Marquee Edited February 24, 2017 by haz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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