SF33 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) Ok, the last thing this team needs is more excuses for underachieving so far this year, but has anyone else noticed that it seems to be a rule that the opposition goalkeeper will be at his absolute best against us? I'd be surprised if goalkeepers have polled more in the Tobin award (essentially being voted as his teams best or second best player) against any other team in the league and it seems to have been going on for years. I don't even really know who the crap goalies are in the league, because all of them seem to be very solid against us and it feels like it's been going on for a while (as in a couple of years). When did an opposition goalie have a nightmare game against us? Even when we beat Victory 4-1, Thomas was probably one of their better players...the margin could have been much bigger. Any theories on why this is, or is it just one of those things? A by-product of our slow transitions? Edited January 19, 2017 by SF33 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heart of Melbourne Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 We have the best attack in the league, however something is not clicking at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 20 minutes ago, Heart of Melbourne said: We have the best attack in the league, however something is not clicking at the moment. I think it has to be considered more than that. Even though we look stagnant at times, I don't think the shots on target stat is lying: we had nine, they had one. In other words, Izzo made seven saves, Bouzanis made zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Because 5 shots were straight at his torso. Our players can't shoot for shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 1 minute ago, playmaker said: Because 5 shots were straight at his torso. Our players can't shoot for shit. Absolutely true. Just watch the warm-up shooting practice of the two sides and it's easy to see how much better than us the other sides are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Just now, playmaker said: Because 5 shots were straight at his torso. Our players can't shoot for shit. Yeah, that's probably part of it. But he still made a number of good saves and, as an example that springs to mind, even if Fornaroli's late free kick had curled into the top corner, Izzo looked to have it covered. I'm not saying that he made seven world class saves, but he made a few good ones and he didn't make any howlers that I can think of. Seems like a pretty regular story for the opposition custodian. I'm paraphrasing here: "Liam Reddy was the hero for Perth, saving two Fornaroli penalties and making several other crucial saves." "Janjetovic was outstanding in his first game for the Wanderers, after arriving this week." "Galekovic had a great game for Adelaide." "The margin could have been much larger, but Izzo was superb for Central Coast." And so on, and so on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Heart of Melbourne said: We have the best attack in the league, however something is not clicking at the moment. I'm not allowed to say why anymore! Believe me chaps but I've played on a high level and coached too. I've been a member since our first Melbourne derby and as arrogant as it sounds but we are better off without C+ (just like Strider misses his black banana). I keep supporting this club. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Izzo didn't do anything that special last night, his save against Kilkenny was good but rest of them I'd expect every keeper to save Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewConvert Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 I believe the upright was hit twice by Colazo, so Izzo beaten. Then there were two shots that skimmed the outside of the bar. But too many shots went straight to Izzo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 The point remains. Even if his performance was slightly overrated, Izzo was still one of Central Coast's better players and I don't think he really made an error. But this is not a one-off. Even just in the past month, Liam Reddy (who always seems to be fantastic against us, whenever I've watched him) has probably played the game of his life and Janjetovic puts in an almost flawless performance, even though he probably had to introduce himself to his defenders in the change rooms before the game. What is going on here? When is the last time a keeper had a poor game against us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) On 1/20/2017 at 8:15 AM, SF33 said: The point remains. Even if his performance was slightly overrated, Izzo was still one of Central Coast's better players and I don't think he really made an error. But this is not a one-off. Even just in the past month, Liam Reddy (who always seems to be fantastic against us, whenever I've watched him) has probably played the game of his life and Janjetovic puts in an almost flawless performance, even though he probably had to introduce himself to his defenders in the change rooms before the game. What is going on here? When is the last time a keeper had a poor game against us? -Deleted Image- Edited March 16, 2017 by haz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, SF33 said: The point remains. Even if his performance was slightly overrated, Izzo was still one of Central Coast's better players and I don't think he really made an error. But this is not a one-off. Even just in the past month, Liam Reddy (who always seems to be fantastic against us, whenever I've watched him) has probably played the game of his life and Janjetovic puts in an almost flawless performance, even though he probably had to introduce himself to his defenders in the change rooms before the game. What is going on here? When is the last time a keeper had a poor game against us? But the common factor is the City attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 Every team knows we have Bouzanis with Sorenson on the bench, so every keeper tries their hardest against us because they know they have a chance of playing for us one day. #StayWoke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, jw1739 said: But the common factor is the City attack. And I guess that's what I'm asking. Look beyond last night and whether we sufficiently challenged Izzo (hey, he's still got to catch them...would we bet on Bouzanis not having a brainfart somewhere along the way when dealing with similar shots?)...like I've said, it seems to have been happening for ages. Do people think it's a coincidence, or is it something about our style that makes it easy for goalies to play against us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 8 minutes ago, SF33 said: And I guess that's what I'm asking. Look beyond last night and whether we sufficiently challenged Izzo (hey, he's still got to catch them...would we bet on Bouzanis not having a brainfart somewhere along the way when dealing with similar shots?)...like I've said, it seems to have been happening for ages. Do people think it's a coincidence, or is it something about our style that makes it easy for goalies to play against us? Because 5 shots were straight at his torso. Our players can't shoot for shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, SF33 said: And I guess that's what I'm asking. Look beyond last night and whether we sufficiently challenged Izzo (hey, he's still got to catch them...would we bet on Bouzanis not having a brainfart somewhere along the way when dealing with similar shots?)...like I've said, it seems to have been happening for ages. Do people think it's a coincidence, or is it something about our style that makes it easy for goalies to play against us? For me our attack just doesn't play with any sort of rhythm. Brandan missed an absolute sitter last night, but other than that how many of our "chances" were just a tap-in, the simple pull-back from the wing to an unmarked striker on the edge of the 6-yard area? We attacked a lot during the second half down the right, but to me Franjic and Kamau just didn't seem to know who was to go forward and when. IMO we were better down the left, but still didn't create the simple chances. Of course, taking an age to move the ball forward out of defence doesn't help because it gives the opposition time to pack their defensive lines. IMO it's all in the City style and little to do with the opposition 'keepers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted January 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, playmaker said: Because 5 shots were straight at his torso. Our players can't shoot for shit. You seem to be missing my point: it's been happening for ages. It's not about Paul Izzo, or last night's game in isolation. It's that I can't remember the last time a keeper was less than solid against us and given our recent experiences with Bouzanis and Redmayne in goals, having a keeper that is solid every week would be fantastic. I don't buy that our players can't shoot. Kamau seems to be the only one completely bereft of confidence when he gets the ball inside the area. In the Heart days with Mifsud, Dugandzic, Williams and Ramsay, ok...then it was fair to say that we couldn't shoot for shit. But now with Fornaroli, Cahill, Colazo, Fernando and even Kilkenny firing some rippers from distance in recent weeks? We've pretty clearly got the class to finish. For whatever reason, it's not happening. 8 minutes ago, jw1739 said: For me our attack just doesn't play with any sort of rhythm. Brandan missed an absolute sitter last night, but other than that how many of our "chances" were just a tap-in, the simple pull-back from the wing to an unmarked striker on the edge of the 6-yard area? We attacked a lot during the second half down the right, but to me Franjic and Kamau just didn't seem to know who was to go forward and when. IMO we were better down the left, but still didn't create the simple chances. Of course, taking an age to move the ball forward out of defence doesn't help because it gives the opposition time to pack their defensive lines. IMO it's all in the City style and little to do with the opposition 'keepers. Yeah, it's frustrating. Because we're certainly not lacking for quality (on paper at least) with our wingers and attacking midfielders either: Brattan, Fernando, Kamau, Colazo, Fitzgerald, Caceres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 19, 2017 Report Share Posted January 19, 2017 11 minutes ago, SF33 said: You seem to be missing my point: it's been happening for ages. It's not about Paul Izzo, or last night's game in isolation. It's that I can't remember the last time a keeper was less than solid against us and given our recent experiences with Bouzanis and Redmayne in goals, having a keeper that is solid every week would be fantastic. I don't buy that our players can't shoot. Kamau seems to be the only one completely bereft of confidence when he gets the ball inside the area. In the Heart days with Mifsud, Dugandzic, Williams and Ramsay, ok...then it was fair to say that we couldn't shoot for shit. But now with Fornaroli, Cahill, Colazo, Fernando and even Kilkenny firing some rippers from distance in recent weeks? We've pretty clearly got the class to finish. For whatever reason, it's not happening. Because 30 shots were straight at the goal keepers torso or in the goal keepers safe zone. I am saying that is the reason because it is. You look at our shots on target over the last 10 matches you will agree that our players can't shoot for shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coys Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 I put purely down to the fact is that we are now the benchmark team. Regardless of positioning on the league we are supposed to be the best team in the league. The squad we put together and the money invested into the the team and the training facilities is above and beyond what other teams spend. We are the team that's supposed to be the giant and as such whenever someone plays us they are the david trying to beat the Goliath. I don't think its as much to do with playing styles it's just the other teams and this instance have more motivation. Hence why the keepers are playing absolute blinders against us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexxxandro Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 3 hours ago, playmaker said: Because 5 shots were straight at his torso. Our players can't shoot for shit. You can say that again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playmaker Posted January 20, 2017 Report Share Posted January 20, 2017 10 minutes ago, Alexxxandro said: You can say that again. Because 5 shots were straight at his torso. Our players can't shoot for shit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF33 Posted November 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Andrew Redmayne. Two clean sheets against us in about 6-8 weeks. He probably kept two clean sheets in his entire time at our club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imtellingyou Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 Much better keeper now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted November 3, 2017 Report Share Posted November 3, 2017 27 minutes ago, Imtellingyou said: Much better keeper now. No JVS and no JD will do that to you... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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