Popular Post Shahanga Posted February 23, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 Well if Wazza does get the lemonade now he can have no complaints. That display really summed up why no one apart from insomniacs want to go to City games. If the bloke had had kahunas he would have brought on mcgree for Baccus the minute they scored and actually try to attack. Basically Joyce sees football as a completely different game to me and as s fan it hurts to watch him first destroy the team, then the supporters and last of all the club. If management had had vision they would have moved him on last year (& got Popa). We’ve already missed Ante. Now we need to move him on immediately and do whatever it takes to get Ange here. Joyce Out! 10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr MO Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 34 minutes ago, CityHeart said: We have no idea what to do. How to make room, how to create Thank you, you are spot on, this is the same all season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjake1234 Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mr MO said: Thank you, you are spot on, this is the same all season And last season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 No forward movement, no dummy runs and willingness to take a man on. If we win the ball in the midfield we quickly realise we don't have the numbers to attack, so we stop... literally. We stand on the ball and look around. Suddenly 5 players appear from behind the ball but they don't run forward of the ball holder. As a result the ball is passed sideways, then backwards, repeat etc. That is the pattern of 90% of our possession. A fucking bonobo could work out that forward movement has been the recipe for success for teams this season. Joyce's football IQ is unbelievably bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, HeartFc said: No forward movement, no dummy runs and willingness to take a man on. If we win the ball in the midfield we quickly realise we don't have the numbers to attack, so we stop... literally. We stand on the ball and look around. Suddenly 5 players appear from behind the ball but they don't run forward of the ball holder. As a result the ball is passed sideways, then backwards, repeat etc. That is the pattern of 90% of our possession. A fucking bonobo could work out that forward movement has been the recipe for success for teams this season. Joyce's football IQ is unbelievably bad. It basically caused by having essentially 7 players (6 plus keeper) behind the ball all the fucking time. The whole basic premise of playing 2 holders is to push you full backs ahead of the ball carrier to create overloads on the final line, but what we do is we have our holders sit and play through them sideways until our fullback becomes the carrier. He should be beyond the ball cutting behind their fullback looking for a through ball. It's just fucked up and against 10 was even more fucked. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citypool Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 So if Joyce leaves what day is it expected to happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHFC-FAN Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 minute ago, citypool said: So if Joyce leaves what day is it expected to happen? Thursday 10am 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afif Adam Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) sick off this Edited February 23, 2019 by Afif Adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffplz Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 Soo disinterested after that. Absolutely terrible style of play. I've seen NPL clubs with better forward movement and tactics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neio Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 There was one piece of play last night that summed up Joyce tactics After a beautiful passing sequence of going sideways for about 2 minutes, Jamo finally ran forward and tried to cross. Broxham blocked it went out for a throw in Joyce yelled out to Jamo and pointed at baccus who was in his usual spot about 20 metres back, no doubt waiting for a pass so he could give it to Griffiths etc Jamo picked the ball up and looked up at the sky and shook his head The players are starting to look like they have had enough of this 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartOfCity Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, neio said: There was one piece of play last night that summed up Joyce tactics After a beautiful passing sequence of going sideways for about 2 minutes, Jamo finally ran forward and tried to cross. Broxham blocked it went out for a throw in Joyce yelled out to Jamo and pointed at baccus who was in his usual spot about 20 metres back, no doubt waiting for a pass so he could give it to Griffiths etc Jamo picked the ball up and looked up at the sky and shook his head The players are starting to look like they have had enough of this No shit??? Never really focus on Joyce at the game but that is damming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted February 23, 2019 Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 hour ago, neio said: There was one piece of play last night that summed up Joyce tactics After a beautiful passing sequence of going sideways for about 2 minutes, Jamo finally ran forward and tried to cross. Broxham blocked it went out for a throw in Joyce yelled out to Jamo and pointed at baccus who was in his usual spot about 20 metres back, no doubt waiting for a pass so he could give it to Griffiths etc Jamo picked the ball up and looked up at the sky and shook his head The players are starting to look like they have had enough of this So there was quite a bit of heat between Jamo and Joyce lastnight. Other thing is that Jamo was obviously told not to cross with the same regularity like he has been. Instead he 90% reworked the ball to baccus and griff and brattan etc. He was frustrated and arguing about limited attacking options. He wants what the fans want and seems disillusioned by the system of play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted February 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, neio said: There was one piece of play last night that summed up Joyce tactics After a beautiful passing sequence of going sideways for about 2 minutes, Jamo finally ran forward and tried to cross. Broxham blocked it went out for a throw in Joyce yelled out to Jamo and pointed at baccus who was in his usual spot about 20 metres back, no doubt waiting for a pass so he could give it to Griffiths etc Jamo picked the ball up and looked up at the sky and shook his head The players are starting to look like they have had enough of this I’ve always had a bit of a feel that managers who play a defensive style and who bark orders constantly from the side lines are only tolerated by players for so long and then it can turn very sour very quickly. oh and of course managers of whom the majority of their career has been youth coaching are the ones who are usually like this Edited February 23, 2019 by Dylan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jacques Le Cube Posted February 24, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 Nice work by Legoland6000 on reddit: 3 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted February 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 (edited) Wazzas training methods have leaked Edited February 24, 2019 by Dylan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inchcolm Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 Joyce learning his trade as an assistant manager https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGk_skwxYHM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malloy Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 12 hours ago, JMSTEP123 said: So there was quite a bit of heat between Jamo and Joyce lastnight. Other thing is that Jamo was obviously told not to cross with the same regularity like he has been. Instead he 90% reworked the ball to baccus and griff and brattan etc. He was frustrated and arguing about limited attacking options. He wants what the fans want and seems disillusioned by the system of play. TBF Joyce may have just been telling Jamo not to cross because Jamo is more likely to put it out than get it in the box. Regardless, #JoyceOut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, malloy said: TBF Joyce may have just been telling Jamo not to cross because Jamo is more likely to put it out than get it in the box. Regardless, #JoyceOut Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 When I saw it, I thought he was having a go at the linesman for not calling a foul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted February 24, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 Has he received the confidence of the board yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 If it's going to happen, you'd think today would be the day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeartFc Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 39 minutes ago, rass said: If it's going to happen, you'd think today would be the day. Ye pretty much, if he isn't sacked today we're gonna have to call on Perth to save this club and pump us 4-0. Surely it'll be curtains after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 45 minutes ago, HeartFc said: Ye pretty much, if he isn't sacked today we're gonna have to call on Perth to save this club and pump us 4-0. Surely it'll be curtains after that. I'm usually the most optimistic of people but I think the result on Saturday night would have deflated the team massively and as such, I can't see us winning. I don't think even a management change this week will help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, rass said: I'm usually the most optimistic of people but I think the result on Saturday night would have deflated the team massively and as such, I can't see us winning. I don't think even a management change this week will help. I don’t think a management change can make much difference to this season, but it will stop Joyce having an influence on who we sign for next season and allow us more time to select his replacement 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Shahanga said: I don’t think a management change can make much difference to this season, but it will stop Joyce having an influence on who we sign for next season and allow us more time to select his replacement I'm not sure that CFG will even make the change before the end of the season, and with every match that they delay IMO it's less likely it will happen. If we hang on to a finals place they can say to Joyce that he was given every chance and look perfectly reasonable in not extending his contract. It's "brand image" that counts more than anything else. Just look at Munn - his departure isn't happening immediately. "Immediate" decisions just don't seem to be CFG's style. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted February 24, 2019 Report Share Posted February 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, jw1739 said: I'm not sure that CFG will even make the change before the end of the season, and with every match that they delay IMO it's less likely it will happen. If we hang on to a finals place they can say to Joyce that he was given every chance and look perfectly reasonable in not extending his contract. It's "brand image" that counts more than anything else. Just look at Munn - his departure isn't happening immediately. "Immediate" decisions just don't seem to be CFG's style. Working on an exit package. As you can imagine he'll be asking for every cent he can get out of CFG. Luckily the club won't have to pay out an entire back room staff as they do in Europe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 Can't see Wazza being sacked before the end of the season regardless what happens. Two things, CFG want to see if we can win the GF and get into the ACL then give their blessing to Wazza and commend him on our first GF win ever or we are completely embarrassed leading up to the finals and all the more incentive for CFG to send him on his way no questions asked. Regardless, he won't be our manager next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, AntiScum said: Working on an exit package. As you can imagine he'll be asking for every cent he can get out of CFG. Luckily the club won't have to pay out an entire back room staff as they do in Europe You know this as a fact or are you just speculating? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 I’ll reiterate what I’ve heard, which is solid. Already gone but was allowed to stay on for the derby. An announcement is forthcoming. I’ll be very surprised if he stays on for the rest of the season but it’s possible he does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, jw1739 said: You know this as a fact or are you just speculating? Been ongoing since the Newcastle game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloughie Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 I have also been told extremely reliably he was informed in the days prior to the derby that contract will not be renewed but announcement will be withheld. Until when is the question. Munn is also no longer just skating on thin ice. A loud cracking sound has reverberated around the parent club. And I have never made a claim to be in the know before if that helps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dylan Posted February 25, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 If it’s true what’s the point of keeping him until seasons end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloughie Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 I hope Bruno is the one chosen to give his farewell speech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Latchford Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 26 minutes ago, Cloughie said: I have also been told extremely reliably he was informed in the days prior to the derby that contract will not be renewed but announcement will be withheld. Until when is the question. Munn is also no longer just skating on thin ice. A loud cracking sound has reverberated around the parent club. And I have never made a claim to be in the know before if that helps! Seems pretty clear that they'd rather just let this season runs its course. If they sack Joyce now, they have to pay him out and pay another manager to come in. Leaving Joyce to plot his own downfall seems to be the plan. Failing to see how Munn would be on notice since he's essentially just been promoted within CFG, thoough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffplz Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 I really feel sorry for him as a man but he's got to go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Harrison said: If that's a genuine screen shot then someone in the PR department went too early. And no media outlet appears to have picked it up. I'm finding it hard to believe that it's genuine. Edited February 25, 2019 by jw1739 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rass Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 I call bullshit. Website below shows the Team News article next to the Matilda one, dated 21/2/2019. If the article was real about Joyce, it would have been next to it and not over the top of it. I reckon someone has very cleverly overlaid the Harrison pic and Team News article with the Joyce one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imtellingyou Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 It's cheaper to keep him. Also, inexperienced assistant coaches are not a way to go, again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 25, 2019 Report Share Posted February 25, 2019 1 hour ago, rass said: I call bullshit. Website below shows the Team News article next to the Matilda one, dated 21/2/2019. If the article was real about Joyce, it would have been next to it and not over the top of it. I reckon someone has very cleverly overlaid the Harrison pic and Team News article with the Joyce one. I agree. The Joyce pic would have been to the left of the Harrison pic, not to the left of the Matilda. The pics appear in sequence. Good effort, but not genuine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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