playmaker Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Warren Joyce admits goal-shy Melbourne City are ‘crying out for a forward’ Melbourne City’s chances of bolstering their A-League attack are fading as the close of the January transfer window approaches. City put in a typically miserly performance in keeping ladder leaders Perth Glory to a 0-0 draw at AAMI Park on Saturday night. But they were unable to generate a single shot on target for the entire match. With Golden Boot winner Bruno Fornaroli still firmly out of favour and fellow striker Dario Vidosic sidelined with a back injury, coach Warren Joyce has been forced to get creative in search of goals. Defender Ritchie de Laet has been redeployed in attack with reasonable effect, but despite their recent run of good results City have managed just 17 goals from 14 games. City have conceded the least amount of goals in the league (12), but coach Warren Joyce knows he needs to sharpen his attack. However, he can’t see it happening during this transfer window. “There’s a limited budget available to try and bring a player in,” Joyce said. “Obviously during this period you’re crying out for a forward — that’s obvious. “The lads who have played there have done tremendously well for the team … but they need a bit of help and they deserve a bit of help. “But you’ve got to look longer term as well as short term because with the salary cap you can end up in a fix.” Rostyn Griffiths Melbourne City have only scored 17 goals in 14 A-League games this season. City’s busy schedule continues on Tuesday night when they host Western Sydney Wanderers. Midfielder Osama Malik is a chance to return from injury for that clash, but Vidosic remains doubtful. “With backs it’s hard to say … he’s not looking in great shape at the minute,” Joyce said. “He certainly wasn’t [on Friday]. He was trying to run but he’s crooked … he’s had some injections and they’re just trying to settle it down. “It came at a time when he was playing well. He’s an experienced player who can handle the ball and maybe do something in the last third to create or score so it’s disappointing to lose him.” https://sportsaroundtheworld.info/2019/01/20/warren-joyce-admits-goal-shy-melbourne-city-are-crying-out-for-a-forward/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jw1739 Posted January 22, 2019 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Absolute rubbish. A situation entirely of the club's own making. Failed to sign enough forwards before the season started, instead signing a plethora of midfielders and defenders. Added to the defensive midfielders in the January window while terminating Caceres and O'Halloran and suspending Fornaroli. All levels of management failing to resolve the Fornaroli situation, despite the player continuing to train and be part of the club. Failing to use all the options available outside the salary cap (such as Mature Age Rookie). Failing to promote the club's own youth striker. Just more sky blue bullshit from City Football Group. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torn Asunder Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Part 2 to the club's informative preemptive release on the (bullshit) salary cap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 36 minutes ago, playmaker said: However, he can’t see it happening during this transfer window. That line in the article is a total misrepresentation of what he says. He highlights the difficulty of getting players and their conditions at this time of the year, and notes that the preferred players generally dont tend to become available until late in the window. At no point does he say, or even infer, that he can't see any players being signed. Link as below. https://www.melbournecityfc.com.au/video/wj-presser-21-01-19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, bt50 said: That line in the article is a total misrepresentation of what he says. He highlights the difficulty of getting players and their conditions at this time of the year, and notes that the preferred players generally dont tend to become available until late in the window. At no point does he say, or even infer, that he can't see any players being signed. Link as below. https://www.melbournecityfc.com.au/video/wj-presser-21-01-19 I gave up watching that after about 6 minutes, because I can't hear what the questions are that are being answered, and then e-mailed the club pleading for them to get a roving microphone so that we can hear both Q and A. If that's what he does say, then that agrees with my own information. I'm given to understand that most of the deals in the mid-season window take place on the last day and even only minutes before the window closes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, jw1739 said: I gave up watching that after about 6 minutes, because I can't hear what the questions are that are being answered, and then e-mailed the club pleading for them to get a roving microphone so that we can hear both Q and A. If that's what he does say, then that agrees with my own information. I'm given to understand that most of the deals in the mid-season window take place on the last day and even only minutes before the window closes. Think its the lot of most clubs that can't afford/don't pay transfer fees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
citypool Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Should we give credit to Joyce for playing da leat as a striker 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Bort speaking his mind! Anyone got a replay of his interview. "We were terrible" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 18 minutes ago, citypool said: Should we give credit to Joyce for playing da leat as a striker Yes but worth remembering the following: * He chose not to sign a back up striker * he ostracised the best striker in the league on top of that it’s also worth noting he signed 4 guys who’s best position is #10 and yet is currently playing a 5th in that position we started the season with one experienced specialist winger who the coach wouldn’t play and has now fucked off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 1 hour ago, haz said: Bort speaking his mind! Anyone got a replay of his interview. "We were terrible" Was that in contrast to what Wazza probably said: "We had possession. We controlled the game" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 Does a 4th place finish and reaching the semi final give WJ another year? Or is Asia the only thing that saves him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted January 22, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Harrison said: Does a 4th place finish and reaching the semi final give WJ another year? Or is Asia the only thing that saves him? Nope. Only thing that will save him (I hope) will be ACL or championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted January 22, 2019 Report Share Posted January 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, Harrison said: Does a 4th place finish and reaching the semi final give WJ another year? Or is Asia the only thing that saves him? Asia and/or GF appearance i think. But who knows, the club have clearly backed him on his culture wars with Bruno so they may feel he's enacting exactly what they want in terms of setting us up for the long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, bt50 said: Asia and/or GF appearance i think. But who knows, the club have clearly backed him on his culture wars with Bruno so they may feel he's enacting exactly what they want in terms of setting us up for the long term. I'm thinking your later scenario. Without saying it publicly I reckon this seasons finished position has no bearing on Joyce's future. I kind off think what goes on pre and post game will be more of what is important. If they wanted results and potential silverware O'halloran and Fornoroli would be playing or at the very least like for like replacements would be in by now. This next 10 days or so will say a lot of what sort of direction they are planning and also what likelihood Joyce will remain. Very interesting times next few weeks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrison Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 No doubt CFG are playing the long game. Do they tolerate 'failure' whilst WJ institutes his cultural change process? The league is undergoing structural change as we speak and we might see an independent, cap-free league from next season (unlikely but possible). In that context, failure this season is tolerable because the club and its culture will be stronger and more unified going into the new A-League era. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bt50 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, Jovan said: I'm thinking your later scenario. Without saying it publicly I reckon this seasons finished position has no bearing on Joyce's future. I kind off think what goes on pre and post game will be more of what is important. If they wanted results and potential silverware O'halloran and Fornoroli would be playing or at the very least like for like replacements would be in by now. This next 10 days or so will say a lot of what sort of direction they are planning and also what likelihood Joyce will remain. Very interesting times next few weeks. Hmm im not sure i totally agree, i think the situation is probably somewhat fluid. I def don't think our season petering out will see him reappointed unless there are some clear and obvious improvements they can point to. The club will be fully aware that the fans are restless and if they can't pin their hopes on something material it would be a hammer blow to the club for next season and into the future. I think Joyce has to achieve Asia or a GF appearance, and if he doesnt, there has to be something else seriously compelling for the club to reappoint him. And in terms of the window, i tend to think if what they'd wanted in replacements were available straight away they would have gotten it done, however the nature of the game means that the best players dont usually come up until right before the deadline unless you are prepared to pay a transfer fee. Agree that the next two weeks will be very telling anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n i k o Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Jovan said: I'm thinking your later scenario. Without saying it publicly I reckon this seasons finished position has no bearing on Joyce's future. I kind off think what goes on pre and post game will be more of what is important. If they wanted results and potential silverware O'halloran and Fornoroli would be playing or at the very least like for like replacements would be in by now. This next 10 days or so will say a lot of what sort of direction they are planning and also what likelihood Joyce will remain. Very interesting times next few weeks. If that was the case then you have to assume the club is 100% in control of every one of those situations. To me it sounds more like they are in less control than the situation itself. Both Bruno and OHalloran seem to be predominantly responsible for not playing and finding the right replacements for them is further out of the clubs control given the timing of the transfer window. So I don't think those examples can be any indication that the club don't want results or potential silverware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted January 23, 2019 Report Share Posted January 23, 2019 2 hours ago, bt50 said: Hmm im not sure i totally agree, i think the situation is probably somewhat fluid. I def don't think our season petering out will see him reappointed unless there are some clear and obvious improvements they can point to. The club will be fully aware that the fans are restless and if they can't pin their hopes on something material it would be a hammer blow to the club for next season and into the future. I think Joyce has to achieve Asia or a GF appearance, and if he doesnt, there has to be something else seriously compelling for the club to reappoint him. And in terms of the window, i tend to think if what they'd wanted in replacements were available straight away they would have gotten it done, however the nature of the game means that the best players dont usually come up until right before the deadline unless you are prepared to pay a transfer fee. Agree that the next two weeks will be very telling anyway. It's all going to depend on what criteria were set for the club for the duration of Joyce's two seasons. If those criteria are only for what goes on on the pitch then I can see Joyce not being re-appointed at the end of this season if we don't make the Asian Champions League. But if there is fallout from the Fornaroli Affair, more want-away players, and in the light of both falling memberships and falling attendances, then I think it would unfair just to terminate Joyce and not start to question others in the management hierarchy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 Stop playing de laet as a striker you fat fuck. The better we piss off this cunt the better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) Edited January 27, 2019 by Tony999 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Tony999 said: Pedestrian. Actually stationary, the bloke never got off the bench. What a complete fuck nugget. Kilkenny didn't play under Joyce(Maybe a few minutes) Under JVS and that other dude the previous season he was our player of the year. Just wrong. Edited January 27, 2019 by Jovan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofhearts Posted January 27, 2019 Report Share Posted January 27, 2019 46 minutes ago, Tony999 said: Good work Joyce! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) This bloke hasn’t been able to be shown on the big screen at AAMI for 2 months due to the boos. but don’t worry CFG, the way you are going there soon won’t be anyone at the ground to do the booing. Edited February 3, 2019 by Shahanga 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Le Cube Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 When Adam Le Fondre was at Wigan he mysteriously found himself out of the first team. Anyone want to guess who was coaching Wigan at the time? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMSTEP123 Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Jacques Le Cube said: When Adam Le Fondre was at Wigan he mysteriously found himself out of the first team. Anyone want to guess who was coaching Wigan at the time? Coincidence or conspiracy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AntiScum Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 13 hours ago, Shahanga said: This bloke hasn’t been able to be shown on the big screen at AAMI for 2 months due to the boos. but don’t worry CFG, the way you are going there soon won’t be anyone at the ground to do the booing. The guy is one of the most deluded pricks to ever grace a football field!!! Go get Rudan now!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughJass Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 Wonder if we will chase Marco Kurz as rumors he is leaving due to lack of investment and 2 clubs interested in him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony999 Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 minute ago, HughJass said: Wonder if we will chase Marco Kurz as rumors he is leaving due to lack of investment and 2 clubs interested in him Not a bad pick but I still find it astonishing with the network CFG have we look for recycled goods within Oz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 minute ago, HughJass said: Wonder if we will chase Marco Kurz as rumors he is leaving due to lack of investment and 2 clubs interested in him Decision will be made in Manchester, not here. That's the problem. So we're more likely to get someone "personally known" to Marwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Posted February 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 I think we can put a line through Joyce now. I would be shocked if we keep him and he doesnt either Win the Prem, Win the Champ or ACL qual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughJass Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 4 hours ago, Tony999 said: ot a bad pick but I still find it astonishing with the network CFG have we look for recycled goods within Oz. Think the main thing is Kurz knows the salary cap which I think affects overseas coaches as going from basically getting rid of anyone you want to this mess of releasing players if they want etc etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haz Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 Quote Warren Joyce’s future to be decided in next few months as Melbourne City’s signings debut Melbourne City coach Warren Joyce sweated during the January transfer window and he should be cut some slack after his two prized recruits were only signed in the dying hours of deadline day.But any respite for Joyce, whose contract expires this May, will quickly evaporate if City loses Saturday’s crucial clash with Adelaide United.There is a heavy burden on Socceroos striker Jamie Maclaren and Tottenham youth product Shayon Harrison to hit the ground running from their debuts. Joyce’s future will be decided over the next three months and 10-13 games, depending on how far City go in the finals series. It’s understood that Joyce’s targets are to finish inside the top three, in other words qualify for the Asian Champions League. A win over Adelaide still leaves City with a mountain to climb to make the top three. https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/a-league/teams/melbourne-city/warren-joyces-future-to-be-decided-in-next-few-months-as-melbourne-citys-signings-debut/news-story/cd5ef03cf061ee4cd28b6292a37c3a88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afif Adam Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 inside the top 3 , we'll see how tonight goes first 4 minutes ago, haz said: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/a-league/teams/melbourne-city/warren-joyces-future-to-be-decided-in-next-few-months-as-melbourne-citys-signings-debut/news-story/cd5ef03cf061ee4cd28b6292a37c3a88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jovan Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 If this was minutely close to being the truth then it has just made my day. He he zero chance of making top 3. We would need to win 3 more games than Sydney or Victory in the last 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shahanga Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 It would be poetic if he was on track to make the top 3 but the board stood him down for some obscure reason, like not wearing a suit on match day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snordork Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 21 minutes ago, Shahanga said: It would be poetic if he was on track to make the top 3 but the board stood him down for some obscure reason, like not wearing a suit on match day. Skin folds. 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jw1739 Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Jovan said: If this was minutely close to being the truth then it has just made my day. He he zero chance of making top 3. We would need to win 3 more games than Sydney or Victory in the last 10. Arithmetically possible, but almost no chance of making the top 3. Even assuming Sydney and Victory lose a little form, we would have to win at least 8 out of the last 10, and score a lot more regularly than we have done to date, to get past one of them. And looking at the fixture I agree that that is just not going to happen. If top 3 is indeed the criterion, then Joyce might as well start packing now and let Kisnorbo and Vidmar see what they can do in the remainder of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityHeart Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 Utter pi$$weak 'leak' by the club. He is obviously gone, no club in their right mind could continue with this clown, however clearly we havnt got the balls to make the statement and sack him. He will be 'mutually terminated' or he will 'return for personal/family reasons' blah blah after he doesnt reach this 'target' we have no hope of reaching. Just sack him NOW and be done with it. He has had the two of the poorest seasons in this league's history (is there even a good team this season?) and he has just made a mockery of the club and of the sport. Dead set you'd rather stick needles in your eyes before watching us for a full 90. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silloth52 Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 Quote If top 3 is indeed the criterion, then Joyce might as well start packing now and let Kisnorbo and Vidmar see what they can do in the remainder of the season. vidmar gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HughJass Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, silloth52 said: vidmar gone Source? Thought he was on the field during the warm up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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